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kirk_lewis_ESO
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I've seen the changes to WOW with the microsoft acquisition. I have a feeling with the microsoft acquisition and big money, ESO is gonna take off. Give this game a chance. Hate them or love them, Microsoft throws money at their developers especially if the game ends up on their game pass, because the point is to sell subscriptions, and you've seen the trend to subscriptions. I'm tipsy, so don't mind my bad grammar.
Edited by kirk_lewis_ESO on January 19, 2024 11:13PM Templar - looking for a new job (Blame the economy).
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✭✭I don't think shortage of money is the problem; the crown store is massively overpriced and most of us have been guild of spending too much in there. Even those that won't are mostly happy to still buy crowns for gold so it's still rl money flooding in.
I think the biggest problem is the game is faulty at the core, and new content is aimed at casual players who come in, buy all the shinys and leave again, rather than long term players. Oh they try to keep us happy too, but always in a way that will appeal more to casuals and falls short of what's actually needed.PS4 EU17 -
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✭Just cancelled my ESO+ sub. I don't see anything in the new chapter that appeals to me, including scribing, and after IA I don't have any hope for the future content. I left once when the overland was the equivalent of hitting ones head against a wall, so no big loss. As I get older I find "challenging content" is far too much work for me, so I will instead find a more relaxing pass time.
No hard feeling though and I wish only the best of luck to those that stay. I am sure the content teams work very hard to make everyone happy, but between my age, physical limitations and the content being above my ability level I will just depart.15 -
laniakea_0✭✭✭✭There is potential here. but only if they make this the physically largest and best filled Map yet. significantly larger than any other Chapter. and they must not neglect the imperial story lines that have to happen in this zone. otherwise this would once again be a waste of one of the precious few imperial zones. there's like one other area of Cyrodiil left. the imperials deserve a story line all their own for once...
Unfortunately, ZOS's track record for the more recent chapters has not been that great. especially the Telvanni Peninsula was way to small for the area it takes up on the Tamriel Map. this must not happen again!
This could both be an opportunity to really turn things around or one to fail miserably and plunge ESO into the depths.5 -
WhiteCoatSyndrome✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I intend to poke at it on PTS before I make any final judgement. That also has the benefit of making spoilers less of an issue!#proud2BAStarObsessedLoony
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I don't think shortage of money is the problem; the crown store is massively overpriced and most of us have been guild of spending too much in there. Even those that won't are mostly happy to still buy crowns for gold so it's still rl money flooding in.
I think the biggest problem is the game is faulty at the core, and new content is aimed at casual players who come in, buy all the shinys and leave again, rather than long term players. Oh they try to keep us happy too, but always in a way that will appeal more to casuals and falls short of what's actually needed.
They play it far too safe and when they do take a chance it always falls flat. I just wish they put as much money, time and effort in content as they did the crown shop.7 -
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alternatelder✭✭✭✭✭
✭Starfield. Biggest disappointment I've ever purchased in gaming. You can't convince people that MS will lift a game up into the spotlight because they have money. ESO was doing fine, is doing fine and most of that was without MS big pile of money. I don't even know why people think this game is struggling in the mmo market.13 -
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Sadly, you are right and that is true for most studios they bought in the last few years.alternatelder wrote: »Starfield. Biggest disappointment I've ever purchased in gaming. You can't convince people that MS will lift a game up into the spotlight because they have money. ESO was doing fine, is doing fine and most of that was without MS big pile of money. I don't even know why people think this game is struggling in the mmo market.
They bought most of my favourite studios except one and they somehow is not delivering.
Not saying that is M$’s fault but still just sad.
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Roztlin45✭✭✭✭✭Fallout 76! Starfield was at least functional at launch. ESO seems to be headed in a good direction. It would be wise to wait for actual gameplay before passing judgement.1 -
Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭alternatelder wrote: »Starfield. Biggest disappointment I've ever purchased in gaming. You can't convince people that MS will lift a game up into the spotlight because they have money. ESO was doing fine, is doing fine and most of that was without MS big pile of money. I don't even know why people think this game is struggling in the mmo market.
I think that the head of Larian nailed it when he said, "getting a board to ok a project fueled by idealism is almost impossible". Being pulled into a larger company means more layers of management, and more accountability to people not directly involved with making the game. All adding money does is reinforce decisions that were made. If the right decisions were made, money can help make it better. If the wrong decisions were made, money can help make it worse.
While I don't agree with every decision coming out of ZOS, they seem to be getting enough of them right to warrant throwing more money at them.
I'd really like to see them do more of the things they are good at to see if they can be better. They don't need to do more Crown Store stuff, though. 
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✭✭✭✭✭The issue is where the money is going to... for the last few years the content has gotten smaller in scope (while monetization remains aggressive) and a lot of people feel that the company while not exactly having it on the back burner is not investing heavily in it either. This game can absolute dominate but sometimes it seems like it's still managed by a small tea\m and there's not enough resources to deal with issues. I mean, if they are still making their bottom line why should they bother but the foundations are there for the game to be massively popular and dominate the genre.5 -
CrazyKitty✭✭✭✭✭kirk_lewis_ESO wrote: »I've seen the changes to WOW with the microsoft acquisition. I have a feeling with the microsoft acquisition and big money, ESO is gonna take off. Give this game a chance. Hate them or love them, Microsoft throws money at their developers especially if the game ends up on their game pass, because the point is to sell subscriptions, and you've seen the trend to subscriptions. I'm tipsy, so don't mind my bad grammar.
It hasn't worked out how you'd think. Zenimax has actually reduced the number of people working on the game and reduced the release rate of new content, and they've quit making any inputs into the PvP aspect of the game all together and in fact reduced the pop cap in cyrodiil to it's lowest in history since MS bought Zenimax. Zenimax is divesting in ESO in almost every way since MS bought the studio.
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Jammy420✭✭✭✭✭
✭Nah, I continuously see them ignoring the PTS, and the overland thread has been ignored for three years essentially. They need to earn my money, I will not give them a cent more until they start to think about more than one demographic in the game.6 -
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✭✭✭✭✭CrazyKitty wrote: »It hasn't worked out how you'd think. Zenimax has actually reduced the number of people working on the game and reduced the release rate of new content, and they've quit making any inputs into the PvP aspect of the game all together and in fact reduced the pop cap in cyrodiil to it's lowest in history since MS bought Zenimax. Zenimax is divesting in ESO in almost every way since MS bought the studio.
They have PvP stuff slated for later this year. Q4 IIRC.#proud2BAStarObsessedLoony
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✭kirk_lewis_ESO wrote: »I've seen the changes to WOW with the microsoft acquisition. I have a feeling with the microsoft acquisition and big money, ESO is gonna take off. Give this game a chance. Hate them or love them, Microsoft throws money at their developers especially if the game ends up on their game pass, because the point is to sell subscriptions, and you've seen the trend to subscriptions. I'm tipsy, so don't mind my bad grammar.
I could be mistaken but, my impression is not that Microsoft is throwing money at ZOS.
This is ESO's 10th Anniversary which would potentially be a point where you might go big and we don't see any clear signs of that.
We'll just be getting two dungeons this year like last year.
Like this year the late update of the year is likely only going to appeal to a portion of the audience.
The zone we are getting looks huge on the map
but, if you start looking at the details for it, the size may not be that impressive.
https://en.m.uesp.net/maps/obmap/obmap.shtml
You'll notice that the content in Cyrodiil runs pretty close to Skingrad from the east.
Istirus which you see to the west of Skingrad on your map is already used as a Battleground.
Kvatch isn't that much further off from the west and that is already in the Gold Coast DLC. You also have a player house and a dungeon that go from the Gold Coast into the West Weald.
Skingrad isn't that far north of the Strid River and in Reaper's March both Moon Hunter Keep and Strident Springs Demesne are already on the north side of the river.
If you head up to Craglorn, you'll notice the area that would connect to the West Weald zone doesn't really connect well outside of a Group PvE area.
Obviously, ZOS is the one in control of the scaling and can turn even small map areas into large expanses but, my initial assumption is not that this is going to be a massive playable area.6 -
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✭✭WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »CrazyKitty wrote: »It hasn't worked out how you'd think. Zenimax has actually reduced the number of people working on the game and reduced the release rate of new content, and they've quit making any inputs into the PvP aspect of the game all together and in fact reduced the pop cap in cyrodiil to it's lowest in history since MS bought Zenimax. Zenimax is divesting in ESO in almost every way since MS bought the studio.
They have PvP stuff slated for later this year. Q4 IIRC.
This, agreed. They also seem pretty committed to fixing Cyrodiil, an article from the press and streamer meeting mentioned it. It seems making Cyrodiil work is on their table until it’s fixed. I can respect that.
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✭OtarTheMad wrote: »WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »CrazyKitty wrote: »It hasn't worked out how you'd think. Zenimax has actually reduced the number of people working on the game and reduced the release rate of new content, and they've quit making any inputs into the PvP aspect of the game all together and in fact reduced the pop cap in cyrodiil to it's lowest in history since MS bought Zenimax. Zenimax is divesting in ESO in almost every way since MS bought the studio.
They have PvP stuff slated for later this year. Q4 IIRC.
This, agreed. They also seem pretty committed to fixing Cyrodiil, an article from the press and streamer meeting mentioned it. It seems making Cyrodiil work is on their table until it’s fixed. I can respect that.
They also mentioned the pvp content is not Cyrodiil related.1 -
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✭WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »CrazyKitty wrote: »It hasn't worked out how you'd think. Zenimax has actually reduced the number of people working on the game and reduced the release rate of new content, and they've quit making any inputs into the PvP aspect of the game all together and in fact reduced the pop cap in cyrodiil to it's lowest in history since MS bought Zenimax. Zenimax is divesting in ESO in almost every way since MS bought the studio.
They have PvP stuff slated for later this year. Q4 IIRC.WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »CrazyKitty wrote: »It hasn't worked out how you'd think. Zenimax has actually reduced the number of people working on the game and reduced the release rate of new content, and they've quit making any inputs into the PvP aspect of the game all together and in fact reduced the pop cap in cyrodiil to it's lowest in history since MS bought Zenimax. Zenimax is divesting in ESO in almost every way since MS bought the studio.
They have PvP stuff slated for later this year. Q4 IIRC.
They have been saying that a lot over the years. One time they said something was coming for cyro, and it was a ballista. Troll af.6 -
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✭✭✭✭✭WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »CrazyKitty wrote: »It hasn't worked out how you'd think. Zenimax has actually reduced the number of people working on the game and reduced the release rate of new content, and they've quit making any inputs into the PvP aspect of the game all together and in fact reduced the pop cap in cyrodiil to it's lowest in history since MS bought Zenimax. Zenimax is divesting in ESO in almost every way since MS bought the studio.
They have PvP stuff slated for later this year. Q4 IIRC.WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »CrazyKitty wrote: »It hasn't worked out how you'd think. Zenimax has actually reduced the number of people working on the game and reduced the release rate of new content, and they've quit making any inputs into the PvP aspect of the game all together and in fact reduced the pop cap in cyrodiil to it's lowest in history since MS bought Zenimax. Zenimax is divesting in ESO in almost every way since MS bought the studio.
They have PvP stuff slated for later this year. Q4 IIRC.
They have been saying that a lot over the years. One time they said something was coming for cyro, and it was a ballista. Troll af.
I remember a stream when they've said there's something for PvP. And it was a siege emote. Dev's laughter about it was probably not the best move either.5 -
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✭I've been playing Elder Scrolls games since the release of Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind. By the time Oblivion had been out for about 2 years, I was so entirely engrossed that about the only games I have played since then are Elder Scrolls games. I preordered the next chapter before they formally announced that you could preorder it during the reveal.0 -
LittlePinkDot✭✭✭✭✭alternatelder wrote: »Starfield. Biggest disappointment I've ever purchased in gaming. You can't convince people that MS will lift a game up into the spotlight because they have money. ESO was doing fine, is doing fine and most of that was without MS big pile of money. I don't even know why people think this game is struggling in the mmo market.
Part of the agreement of the acquisition was that Bethesda wanted total creative control. So we're stuck with creator engine instead of Unreal engine 5.0 -
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✭✭I would take those claims about PvP being important to them a bit more seriously if they stopped using that scene with people sieging an unbreakable part of a keep whenever they talk about it.2 -
Elyu✭✭✭And Microsoft purchased Minecraft via their purchase of Mojang and that's been....a mixed bag3 -
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✭✭WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »CrazyKitty wrote: »It hasn't worked out how you'd think. Zenimax has actually reduced the number of people working on the game and reduced the release rate of new content, and they've quit making any inputs into the PvP aspect of the game all together and in fact reduced the pop cap in cyrodiil to it's lowest in history since MS bought Zenimax. Zenimax is divesting in ESO in almost every way since MS bought the studio.
They have PvP stuff slated for later this year. Q4 IIRC.
They say that every year since 2020 and PvP has only been downsized every year.2 -
laniakea_0✭✭✭✭WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »CrazyKitty wrote: »It hasn't worked out how you'd think. Zenimax has actually reduced the number of people working on the game and reduced the release rate of new content, and they've quit making any inputs into the PvP aspect of the game all together and in fact reduced the pop cap in cyrodiil to it's lowest in history since MS bought Zenimax. Zenimax is divesting in ESO in almost every way since MS bought the studio.
They have PvP stuff slated for later this year. Q4 IIRC.
They say that every year since 2020 and PvP has only been downsized every year.
this is the first time they've put it on their roadmap like that. I don't think they posted that one anywhere but you can still view it on the stream recording.1 -
RetPing✭✭✭✭✭OtarTheMad wrote: »
This, agreed. They also seem pretty committed to fixing Cyrodiil, an article from the press and streamer meeting mentioned it. It seems making Cyrodiil work is on their table until it’s fixed. I can respect that.
In my opinion the biggest problem is not fixing Cyro.
The problem is the overtuned mechanics there are in PvP (hellooo hots stacking) and all the horrible sets that have been introduced that made PvP a bad joke.
And i don't see them fixing those.
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✭✭alternatelder wrote: »OtarTheMad wrote: »WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »CrazyKitty wrote: »It hasn't worked out how you'd think. Zenimax has actually reduced the number of people working on the game and reduced the release rate of new content, and they've quit making any inputs into the PvP aspect of the game all together and in fact reduced the pop cap in cyrodiil to it's lowest in history since MS bought Zenimax. Zenimax is divesting in ESO in almost every way since MS bought the studio.
They have PvP stuff slated for later this year. Q4 IIRC.
This, agreed. They also seem pretty committed to fixing Cyrodiil, an article from the press and streamer meeting mentioned it. It seems making Cyrodiil work is on their table until it’s fixed. I can respect that.
They also mentioned the pvp content is not Cyrodiil related.
Yeah but they also mentioned continuing the work into Cyrodiil. I can’t find where I read that right now but it made it seem like fixing Cyrodiil is permanently on the table until it’s better.
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✭colossalvoids wrote: »WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »CrazyKitty wrote: »It hasn't worked out how you'd think. Zenimax has actually reduced the number of people working on the game and reduced the release rate of new content, and they've quit making any inputs into the PvP aspect of the game all together and in fact reduced the pop cap in cyrodiil to it's lowest in history since MS bought Zenimax. Zenimax is divesting in ESO in almost every way since MS bought the studio.
They have PvP stuff slated for later this year. Q4 IIRC.WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »CrazyKitty wrote: »It hasn't worked out how you'd think. Zenimax has actually reduced the number of people working on the game and reduced the release rate of new content, and they've quit making any inputs into the PvP aspect of the game all together and in fact reduced the pop cap in cyrodiil to it's lowest in history since MS bought Zenimax. Zenimax is divesting in ESO in almost every way since MS bought the studio.
They have PvP stuff slated for later this year. Q4 IIRC.
They have been saying that a lot over the years. One time they said something was coming for cyro, and it was a ballista. Troll af.
I remember a stream when they've said there's something for PvP. And it was a siege emote. Dev's laughter about it was probably not the best move either.
Exactly. Extremely anti social behavior.laniakea_0 wrote: »WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »CrazyKitty wrote: »It hasn't worked out how you'd think. Zenimax has actually reduced the number of people working on the game and reduced the release rate of new content, and they've quit making any inputs into the PvP aspect of the game all together and in fact reduced the pop cap in cyrodiil to it's lowest in history since MS bought Zenimax. Zenimax is divesting in ESO in almost every way since MS bought the studio.
They have PvP stuff slated for later this year. Q4 IIRC.
They say that every year since 2020 and PvP has only been downsized every year.
this is the first time they've put it on their roadmap like that. I don't think they posted that one anywhere but you can still view it on the stream recording.
Nope, when excavation was added, they said there was something big coming for pvp, and it was a ballista. They have lied consistently about pvp for over 6 years now.OtarTheMad wrote: »alternatelder wrote: »OtarTheMad wrote: »WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »CrazyKitty wrote: »It hasn't worked out how you'd think. Zenimax has actually reduced the number of people working on the game and reduced the release rate of new content, and they've quit making any inputs into the PvP aspect of the game all together and in fact reduced the pop cap in cyrodiil to it's lowest in history since MS bought Zenimax. Zenimax is divesting in ESO in almost every way since MS bought the studio.
They have PvP stuff slated for later this year. Q4 IIRC.
This, agreed. They also seem pretty committed to fixing Cyrodiil, an article from the press and streamer meeting mentioned it. It seems making Cyrodiil work is on their table until it’s fixed. I can respect that.
They also mentioned the pvp content is not Cyrodiil related.
Yeah but they also mentioned continuing the work into Cyrodiil. I can’t find where I read that right now but it made it seem like fixing Cyrodiil is permanently on the table until it’s better.
They have said that for years now, and just have dumbed down the game to make proc sets god tier, reduced the population in cyro completely, and introduced changes to arenas that made people flee en masse.
The fact that there is NO pvp dev atm, says it all.4 -
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The fact that there is NO pvp dev atm, says it all.
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