Which role should prevent "red radiation effect" mech of add mobs?

AvalonRanger · October 2023

Which role should prevent "red radiation effect" mech of add mobs?

The tank must bash those effect against main boss. I know that.
But how about additional mobs?

I don't want to move drastically to the far distance from me as tank role,
you know, some AoE mech are following players, and may kill DD when it's overlap each other.

Why some DD ignore "red radiation effect" mech?

UntilValhalla13 · October 2023

Either keep them taunted, chain them in, or use crushing shock.

Soarora · October 2023

Depends. Sometimes it’s on the healer (ex. Orryn in FL or Selene in LoM), sometimes it’s on the DPS (ex. Archers in SE), sometimes it’s on the tank (small adds can be chained to interrupt), sometimes it’s everyone (ex. 2nd boss split CA), sometimes the best strat is to actually not bash at all (ex. Iron atro in TC).

Generally, if the add can be chained or theres no healer, it’s on the tank. If there is a healer and the add is large, it’s usually on the healer. Any other time or when the healer just can’t/won’t interrupt for some reason, it’s on the DPS.

AvalonRanger · October 2023

Soarora wrote: »

Depends. Sometimes it’s on the healer (ex. Orryn in FL or Selene in LoM), sometimes it’s on the DPS (ex. Archers in SE), sometimes it’s on the tank (small adds can be chained to interrupt), sometimes it’s everyone (ex. 2nd boss split CA), sometimes the best strat is to actually not bash at all (ex. Iron atro in TC).

Generally, if the add can be chained or theres no healer, it’s on the tank. If there is a healer and the add is large, it’s usually on the healer. Any other time or when the healer just can’t/won’t interrupt for some reason, it’s on the DPS.

Actually say, skillful DD or healer can find it, and bash it immediately. Or Just eliminate it
before mech failure disaster happen.

But, most of inexperienced non tank player who will be killed by AoE usually ignore bashing sign always.

I always expect "wipe possibility" when I saw DD or healer ignore bash sign.
"Ah....those guys may be noob. And will be wiped. And finally I'll be dead also."

My guessing is correct mostly.

Soarora · October 2023

AvalonRanger wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

Depends. Sometimes it’s on the healer (ex. Orryn in FL or Selene in LoM), sometimes it’s on the DPS (ex. Archers in SE), sometimes it’s on the tank (small adds can be chained to interrupt), sometimes it’s everyone (ex. 2nd boss split CA), sometimes the best strat is to actually not bash at all (ex. Iron atro in TC).

Generally, if the add can be chained or theres no healer, it’s on the tank. If there is a healer and the add is large, it’s usually on the healer. Any other time or when the healer just can’t/won’t interrupt for some reason, it’s on the DPS.

Actually say, skillful DD or healer can find it, and bash it immediately. Or Just eliminate it
before mech failure disaster happen.

But, most of inexperienced non tank player who will be killed by AoE usually ignore bashing sign always.

I always expect "wipe possibility" when I saw DD or healer ignore bash sign.
"Ah....those guys may be noob. And will be wiped. And finally I'll be dead also."

My guessing is correct mostly.

Bashing immediately isn’t always the best strategy. CA 2nd boss (when she’s targetting 1 person) and TC iron atro, not bashing lets you avoid mechanics as long as the healer is decent. A tiny trash mob having an interruptable ability means nothing usually, barely hurts so it’s a waste of an action. HOF dino fabricants you’re better off roll dodging the projectiles than trying to bash all the orbs. vSS Nahvi HM you ABSOLUTELY DO NOT want to bash the add because if you keep bashing it immediately you will keep it invulnerable forever.

Usually bashing immediately is the play, but not always.

I think the only time I’ve had issue with people not bashing is LoM so I don’t trust anyone and I, as the tank, will bash Selene (first boss) and step on the hoarvors. Not sure what content you mean with AoEs and running over each other because all the cases I can think of (CT Talfyg/Blood knight, SCP Gargoyle, SH 2nd boss, AS kite) have nothing to do with bashing.

LunaFlora · October 2023

everyone that can.

damage dealers should do it unless support is
1, closer.
and 2, not busy keeping themselves or the group alive.

if it's the boss that the tank is tanking of course they should bash.

however there sometimes are multiple interruptable enemies like the casters in Red Petal Bastion.
during Prior Thierric's fight the casters should be interrupted by anyone besides the tank, who needs to focus on Thierric.

El_Borracho · October 2023

Is this the bash warning of the red lines or the enrage where the enemy is red? It depends on the content for both

For enrage, its usually because the boss is too near another add or a sub-boss, like the griffins/bosses in vCR. The tanks need to separate the two. In others, its because the DDs did not burn the boss down in time.

For the bash, going back to vCR, the tank needs to bash the Z'Maja, whereas in a place like Hel Ra, the DDs need to bash the Flame Shapers.