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Traders, you might want to adjust your plating prices right now
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Wolf_Eye✭✭✭✭✭
✭xilfxlegion wrote: »xilfxlegion wrote: »Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »After next update those platings will be worth almost close to nothing vs what it is worth now. I mean if I have for example 10 platings right now, after the update I will have 10x more, so like 100. On top of that each regular grain will be converted to plating. So most people will have at least 1 almost full stack or even more.
The point is: people will have a lot of them, so who will actually need to buy more ? I mean maybe after like half or one year demand will actually start existing again but I guess it will be less valuable than weapon & armour upgrade materials.
Edit: If I could, what I would advise to do is to do all of the Jewelry Master Crafting writs before the next update, as Blue ones are (apparently) just gonna be deleted from the game and will disappear from your inventory and the purple & gold ones are gonna give significant less writ voucher currency.
blue ones will just disappear ?
No, they don't. I've taken a character from Live, who had a blue jewelry writ, that got copied to PTS. Did the writ, and got the full vouchers for it.
The OP and a few other posts are filled with tons of misinformation and false statements.
That explains why blue jewelry writs are suddenly going for 3-5K, when before you couldn't even sell them for 100 gold.
i have crushed thousands of these--- seeing them for 10-15k now
It hurts, doesn't it? It certainly hurt me to see it.
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zaria✭✭✭✭✭
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Yes started saving them once I read about the changes.xilfxlegion wrote: »xilfxlegion wrote: »Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »After next update those platings will be worth almost close to nothing vs what it is worth now. I mean if I have for example 10 platings right now, after the update I will have 10x more, so like 100. On top of that each regular grain will be converted to plating. So most people will have at least 1 almost full stack or even more.
The point is: people will have a lot of them, so who will actually need to buy more ? I mean maybe after like half or one year demand will actually start existing again but I guess it will be less valuable than weapon & armour upgrade materials.
Edit: If I could, what I would advise to do is to do all of the Jewelry Master Crafting writs before the next update, as Blue ones are (apparently) just gonna be deleted from the game and will disappear from your inventory and the purple & gold ones are gonna give significant less writ voucher currency.
blue ones will just disappear ?
No, they don't. I've taken a character from Live, who had a blue jewelry writ, that got copied to PTS. Did the writ, and got the full vouchers for it.
The OP and a few other posts are filled with tons of misinformation and false statements.
That explains why blue jewelry writs are suddenly going for 3-5K, when before you couldn't even sell them for 100 gold.
i have crushed thousands of these--- seeing them for 10-15k now
One thing you do want use up before the change is go out and use up all jewelry surveys, and refine all the dust as you want as much ancient grains and plating as possible.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
Holycannoli✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Will that make a difference? Will refining dust after the patch give you less overall platings than it does now?0 -
Necrotech_Master✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Holycannoli wrote: »Will that make a difference? Will refining dust after the patch give you less overall platings than it does now?
refining technically doesnt give you any platings now lol
but i assume that platings will drop at the same rate as chromium grains when refining, since the grains are being replaced with platings
Yes started saving them once I read about the changes.xilfxlegion wrote: »xilfxlegion wrote: »Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »After next update those platings will be worth almost close to nothing vs what it is worth now. I mean if I have for example 10 platings right now, after the update I will have 10x more, so like 100. On top of that each regular grain will be converted to plating. So most people will have at least 1 almost full stack or even more.
The point is: people will have a lot of them, so who will actually need to buy more ? I mean maybe after like half or one year demand will actually start existing again but I guess it will be less valuable than weapon & armour upgrade materials.
Edit: If I could, what I would advise to do is to do all of the Jewelry Master Crafting writs before the next update, as Blue ones are (apparently) just gonna be deleted from the game and will disappear from your inventory and the purple & gold ones are gonna give significant less writ voucher currency.
blue ones will just disappear ?
No, they don't. I've taken a character from Live, who had a blue jewelry writ, that got copied to PTS. Did the writ, and got the full vouchers for it.
The OP and a few other posts are filled with tons of misinformation and false statements.
That explains why blue jewelry writs are suddenly going for 3-5K, when before you couldn't even sell them for 100 gold.
i have crushed thousands of these--- seeing them for 10-15k now
One thing you do want use up before the change is go out and use up all jewelry surveys, and refine all the dust as you want as much ancient grains and plating as possible.
i dont really see this as necessary, you will have the same effective amount of platings if you do surveys before or after
you could collect dozen surveys, refine and get say 10 grains, which makes 1 plating, which would be 10 platings after the patch
if you wait until after patch, replace 10 grains with 10 platings and you have effectively the same results barring RNG (since its chances to get temper on refine)plays PC/NA
handle @Necrotech_Master
active player since april 2014
i have my main house (grand topal hideaway) listed in the housing tours, it has multiple target dummies, scribing altar, and grandmaster stations (in progress being filled out), as well as almost every antiquity furnishing on display to preview them
feel free to stop by and use the facilities0 -
virtus753✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Holycannoli wrote: »Will that make a difference? Will refining dust after the patch give you less overall platings than it does now?
No. The drop rate is similar enough on PTS that the chance appears unchanged.
Refine 2k dust now and get 10 grains; those 10 grains become 10 platings next update.
Refine 2k dust after the update and get 10 platings directly.
Obviously the actual number varies with RNG, but with the same chance to get the upgrade mat, it won't matter in the end.
Yes started saving them once I read about the changes.xilfxlegion wrote: »xilfxlegion wrote: »Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »After next update those platings will be worth almost close to nothing vs what it is worth now. I mean if I have for example 10 platings right now, after the update I will have 10x more, so like 100. On top of that each regular grain will be converted to plating. So most people will have at least 1 almost full stack or even more.
The point is: people will have a lot of them, so who will actually need to buy more ? I mean maybe after like half or one year demand will actually start existing again but I guess it will be less valuable than weapon & armour upgrade materials.
Edit: If I could, what I would advise to do is to do all of the Jewelry Master Crafting writs before the next update, as Blue ones are (apparently) just gonna be deleted from the game and will disappear from your inventory and the purple & gold ones are gonna give significant less writ voucher currency.
blue ones will just disappear ?
No, they don't. I've taken a character from Live, who had a blue jewelry writ, that got copied to PTS. Did the writ, and got the full vouchers for it.
The OP and a few other posts are filled with tons of misinformation and false statements.
That explains why blue jewelry writs are suddenly going for 3-5K, when before you couldn't even sell them for 100 gold.
i have crushed thousands of these--- seeing them for 10-15k now
One thing you do want use up before the change is go out and use up all jewelry surveys, and refine all the dust as you want as much ancient grains and plating as possible.
You don't want to do your surveys now unless you want to miss out on the fix to Plentiful Harvest. If you do your surveys now, you will miss double procs you otherwise would have gotten with that star.
Plentiful Harvest currently gives 0% chance of a double proc at Stage 1 and 40% at Stage 5. It will give the correct values next update (10% at Stage 1 up to 50% at Stage 5).Edited by virtus753 on October 13, 2023 6:47PM2 -
Wolf_Eye✭✭✭✭✭
✭Holycannoli wrote: »Will that make a difference? Will refining dust after the patch give you less overall platings than it does now?
No. The drop rate is similar enough on PTS that the chance appears unchanged.
Refine 2k dust now and get 10 grains; those 10 grains become 10 platings next update.
Refine 2k dust after the update and get 10 platings directly.
Obviously the actual number varies with RNG, but with the same chance to get the upgrade mat, it won't matter in the end.
Yes started saving them once I read about the changes.xilfxlegion wrote: »xilfxlegion wrote: »Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »After next update those platings will be worth almost close to nothing vs what it is worth now. I mean if I have for example 10 platings right now, after the update I will have 10x more, so like 100. On top of that each regular grain will be converted to plating. So most people will have at least 1 almost full stack or even more.
The point is: people will have a lot of them, so who will actually need to buy more ? I mean maybe after like half or one year demand will actually start existing again but I guess it will be less valuable than weapon & armour upgrade materials.
Edit: If I could, what I would advise to do is to do all of the Jewelry Master Crafting writs before the next update, as Blue ones are (apparently) just gonna be deleted from the game and will disappear from your inventory and the purple & gold ones are gonna give significant less writ voucher currency.
blue ones will just disappear ?
No, they don't. I've taken a character from Live, who had a blue jewelry writ, that got copied to PTS. Did the writ, and got the full vouchers for it.
The OP and a few other posts are filled with tons of misinformation and false statements.
That explains why blue jewelry writs are suddenly going for 3-5K, when before you couldn't even sell them for 100 gold.
i have crushed thousands of these--- seeing them for 10-15k now
One thing you do want use up before the change is go out and use up all jewelry surveys, and refine all the dust as you want as much ancient grains and plating as possible.
You don't want to do your surveys now unless you want to miss out on the fix to Plentiful Harvest. If you do your surveys now, you will miss double procs you otherwise would have gotten with that star.
Plentiful Harvest currently gives 0% chance of a double proc at Stage 1 and 40% at Stage 5. It will give the correct values next update (10% at Stage 1 up to 50% at Stage 5).
Oh good. I was really not looking forward to having to spam all my surveys before the update. Thanks for this info Virtus0 -
zaria✭✭✭✭✭
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And it looked like I was incorrect here, yes pretty obvious then I think about it.Holycannoli wrote: »Will that make a difference? Will refining dust after the patch give you less overall platings than it does now?
No. The drop rate is similar enough on PTS that the chance appears unchanged.
Refine 2k dust now and get 10 grains; those 10 grains become 10 platings next update.
Refine 2k dust after the update and get 10 platings directly.
Obviously the actual number varies with RNG, but with the same chance to get the upgrade mat, it won't matter in the end.
Yes started saving them once I read about the changes.xilfxlegion wrote: »xilfxlegion wrote: »Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »After next update those platings will be worth almost close to nothing vs what it is worth now. I mean if I have for example 10 platings right now, after the update I will have 10x more, so like 100. On top of that each regular grain will be converted to plating. So most people will have at least 1 almost full stack or even more.
The point is: people will have a lot of them, so who will actually need to buy more ? I mean maybe after like half or one year demand will actually start existing again but I guess it will be less valuable than weapon & armour upgrade materials.
Edit: If I could, what I would advise to do is to do all of the Jewelry Master Crafting writs before the next update, as Blue ones are (apparently) just gonna be deleted from the game and will disappear from your inventory and the purple & gold ones are gonna give significant less writ voucher currency.
blue ones will just disappear ?
No, they don't. I've taken a character from Live, who had a blue jewelry writ, that got copied to PTS. Did the writ, and got the full vouchers for it.
The OP and a few other posts are filled with tons of misinformation and false statements.
That explains why blue jewelry writs are suddenly going for 3-5K, when before you couldn't even sell them for 100 gold.
i have crushed thousands of these--- seeing them for 10-15k now
One thing you do want use up before the change is go out and use up all jewelry surveys, and refine all the dust as you want as much ancient grains and plating as possible.
You don't want to do your surveys now unless you want to miss out on the fix to Plentiful Harvest. If you do your surveys now, you will miss double procs you otherwise would have gotten with that star.
Plentiful Harvest currently gives 0% chance of a double proc at Stage 1 and 40% at Stage 5. It will give the correct values next update (10% at Stage 1 up to 50% at Stage 5).
Oh good. I was really not looking forward to having to spam all my surveys before the update. Thanks for this info Virtus
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
Wolf_Eye✭✭✭✭✭
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And it looked like I was incorrect here, yes pretty obvious then I think about it.Holycannoli wrote: »Will that make a difference? Will refining dust after the patch give you less overall platings than it does now?
No. The drop rate is similar enough on PTS that the chance appears unchanged.
Refine 2k dust now and get 10 grains; those 10 grains become 10 platings next update.
Refine 2k dust after the update and get 10 platings directly.
Obviously the actual number varies with RNG, but with the same chance to get the upgrade mat, it won't matter in the end.
Yes started saving them once I read about the changes.xilfxlegion wrote: »xilfxlegion wrote: »Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »After next update those platings will be worth almost close to nothing vs what it is worth now. I mean if I have for example 10 platings right now, after the update I will have 10x more, so like 100. On top of that each regular grain will be converted to plating. So most people will have at least 1 almost full stack or even more.
The point is: people will have a lot of them, so who will actually need to buy more ? I mean maybe after like half or one year demand will actually start existing again but I guess it will be less valuable than weapon & armour upgrade materials.
Edit: If I could, what I would advise to do is to do all of the Jewelry Master Crafting writs before the next update, as Blue ones are (apparently) just gonna be deleted from the game and will disappear from your inventory and the purple & gold ones are gonna give significant less writ voucher currency.
blue ones will just disappear ?
No, they don't. I've taken a character from Live, who had a blue jewelry writ, that got copied to PTS. Did the writ, and got the full vouchers for it.
The OP and a few other posts are filled with tons of misinformation and false statements.
That explains why blue jewelry writs are suddenly going for 3-5K, when before you couldn't even sell them for 100 gold.
i have crushed thousands of these--- seeing them for 10-15k now
One thing you do want use up before the change is go out and use up all jewelry surveys, and refine all the dust as you want as much ancient grains and plating as possible.
You don't want to do your surveys now unless you want to miss out on the fix to Plentiful Harvest. If you do your surveys now, you will miss double procs you otherwise would have gotten with that star.
Plentiful Harvest currently gives 0% chance of a double proc at Stage 1 and 40% at Stage 5. It will give the correct values next update (10% at Stage 1 up to 50% at Stage 5).
Oh good. I was really not looking forward to having to spam all my surveys before the update. Thanks for this info Virtus
It's ok. There's a lot of confusion when it comes to these changes and that is not your fault.
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TybaltKaine✭✭✭✭✭
✭For the purposes of further clarity, are the trait materials also being effected by these changes?
Will Aurbic Amber become less of a hassle to obtain now?
- Tybalt Kaine Khajiit Nightblade Aldmeri Dominion
- PC/NA
- Guildmaster- Lucky Raven
- Knight of Marrow - Blackfeather Academy
- Adepti- The Witches Goblet
- "Nightblade healer huh? How does that work?"
- "I drain the blood of our enemies and fire it into you. It's a lot less messy than it sounds, and yeah I'm basically a Vampire without the whole AGH FIRE BAD"
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Necrotech_Master✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭TybaltKaine wrote: »For the purposes of further clarity, are the trait materials also being effected by these changes?
Will Aurbic Amber become less of a hassle to obtain now?
as far as im aware, the jewelry crafting updates are only affecting the tempers right now, it is not affecting trait material (or removing unrefined trait material)plays PC/NA
handle @Necrotech_Master
active player since april 2014
i have my main house (grand topal hideaway) listed in the housing tours, it has multiple target dummies, scribing altar, and grandmaster stations (in progress being filled out), as well as almost every antiquity furnishing on display to preview them
feel free to stop by and use the facilities0 -
Aorys✭✭✭✭SilverBride wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »I suspect that Chromium platings will go for what Chromium Grains are now, once the initial fluctuation has subsided, because that is basically what they are. And that is way more than 10k.
The screenshot shows plating going for 375k. Divide that by 10 and you get 37,500. That is more the price you will see for the new platings. At least on PCNA.
lets think we get 1 grain from a daily writ right now and we need 40 to gold a piece. After the update we get 1 plating and need 8 to gold a piece. The logic is that we will gold 5x more stuff, then we pay 1/5 of the base price. 1/5 of 50k will be 10k. But of course it will take some time so the price drop down that much
We don't know what the drop rate of the new platings will be. It may be the same as grains are now but I suspect it will be lower. Also, as an active trader, I'm not lowering my prices that much and I seriously doubt others will, either. Especially when you compare these to tempering alloys and dreugh wax. These sell for 40k plus so why should platings be that much lower?
I really hope it does not drop down so much, because I sell materials too and the market seems broken for months. Platinum ounces are skyrocketing, gold mats price dropping. The profit now is not as good as it was in January.0 -
wolfie1.0.✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I will just say this. My years and years of hoarding jewelry writs in multiple guild banks and character slots will now be realized!!!
I have no idea what I am going to do with all of that storage space though...
Time to find something else of no current value to hoard...2 -
Wolf_Eye✭✭✭✭✭
✭wolfie1.0. wrote: »I will just say this. My years and years of hoarding jewelry writs in multiple guild banks and character slots will now be realized!!!
I have no idea what I am going to do with all of that storage space though...
Time to find something else of no current value to hoard...
Now that is what I call dedication. You'll be so rich in vouchers now.
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ecru✭✭✭✭✭
✭I already dumped all mine. Surprised people are still buying them up for like 350k a piece. On the plus side, maybe I can finally get around to doing that 536 voucher jewelry writ that's been taking up space in my bank for years.Edited by ecru on October 14, 2023 5:37AMGryphon Heart
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xilfxlegion✭✭✭✭✭wolfie1.0. wrote: »I will just say this. My years and years of hoarding jewelry writs in multiple guild banks and character slots will now be realized!!!
I have no idea what I am going to do with all of that storage space though...
Time to find something else of no current value to hoard...
agreed.
i also have about 1200 surveys to do. which will also clear up room0
