what do you think of the new class sets??

Sparxlost · September 2023

(EDIT: i had just assumed that these were a part of some DLC because why wouldnt they be.. Please forgive my hubris)
I am not opposed to the idea but i think the examples we have seen are kind of strong for class specific sets and benefit really specific playstyles for certain classes in a way that makes it trivial compared to someone who might not have that...

examples being the dk class set that increases healing and ult gen would put current corrosive dks below class set wielding corrosive dks
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i just dont think that a class set should determine the way a class is played but instead provide more vaguely applicable bonuses..

sorc set is cool and is probably going to be the best in terms of necessity and balance but like i said... having applied to all skills instead of just/or changing the effects of one could cause an extreme lack of balance in the future.... not to mention that these sets just look really strong like overpowered strong..

imagine not knowing what is coming next patch as a pretty good pvp player and then getting absolutely slammed by someone wearing these sets.. the pve effects would take longer to kick in but im sure it will become an issue eventually....

belial5221_ESO · September 2023

If you're not buying the sets directly for a premium not availiable to all,not really P2W,ppl still seem to misunderstand the idea of P2W,and DLC content stuff not P2W.If it was OP,they'll nerf em in a patch or 2 after release to add new OP set.

Punitio · September 2023

Dk set is tier S omega broken for pvp, and the rest are trash not worth using.

AcadianPaladin · September 2023

I like them because they do no harm. That is to say, none of them will tempt me to change up current gear setups.

chessalavakia_ESO · September 2023

It's a base game option so everyone can get them so not P2W.

Personally, I think many of them seem like they would be more functional than fun which isn't generally what I hope for from item sets.

With that said, keep in mind that all of us that are responding are just speculating based on the details we know.

The sets may not function exactly as we expect and changes may exist that may shift the way the sets function.

For example, people are very concerned about the DK set due to Corrosive. If Corrosive ends up getting nerfed significantly in the PTS the set people are concerned about may significantly lose value.

TaSheen · September 2023

I won't be using them at all. The stuff my CP 160s are wearing is miles better (except for the DK set, but I don't have a CP 160 DK, and don't care if I ever do).

Not to mention I have zero interest in the arena-ish dungeon-ish setup.

phaneub17_ESO · September 2023

Your options have no comparable differences to each other.

boi_anachronism_ · September 2023

Uhh its all base game bud. Poll is bunk. That said the dk set is busted.com/why/Disaster-Sauce #WhyDoesZosHatePvP #Choices

ProudMary · September 2023

I have no intention what so ever of spending vast amounts of time grinding in a never ending dungeon for any sets, even if they are good sets, and from what I've seen, none of them are especially good.

There is already far too much grinding in this game. Grinding for gear is not fun.

Soarora · September 2023

Great concept, could be better execution. Can’t wait to see the other 2/3 of the sets.

merpins · September 2023

1. They're being added to the base game, so it's not P2W, unless you think other classes are P2W, which they aren't.
2. Some are good, some are bad, but none are going to shake up the meta in PVE. In pvp, that DK one is going to get a hard nerf before release or else it will probably really shake up the pvp meta.

They're fine. I like the Nightblade one, since it'll allow me to do an old setup I haven't been able to play since 2017. Otherwise they're a bit disappointing ngl.

Remiem · September 2023

Good idea that will most likely devolve into another way of overloading some classes instead of promoting new ways to play.
It's tiring to see the same class bias patch after patch, why are the DK and NB sets so much better than the rest?

J18696 · September 2023

merpins wrote: »

1. They're being added to the base game, so it's not P2W, unless you think other classes are P2W, which they aren't.
2. Some are good, some are bad, but none are going to shake up the meta in PVE. In pvp, that DK one is going to get a hard nerf before release or else it will probably really shake up the pvp meta.

They're fine. I like the Nightblade one, since it'll allow me to do an old setup I haven't been able to play since 2017. Otherwise they're a bit disappointing ngl.

I also think either the dk set itself will see some changes or corrosive itself will then I remember back to Sloads and oakensoul pts cycles where the community were very loud about them being problematic and it still went live so who knows

rabidmyers · September 2023

what new class sets

Lykeion · September 2023

Where is They Are Bad

rpa · September 2023

To my totally not theorycrafting eye most of new sets appear silly. But I'm not going to design an effective build by myself anyway so it really depends if any appear in recommended builds around.

Caligamy_ESO · September 2023

I think.. almost nothing at all makes them feel really special and they seem like they could've just been x,y,z set from whatever DLC (except there's a class restriction on em')

They had better look amazing because honestly I expected far better when I heard they were making class specific armors.

derkaiserliche · September 2023

i like the idea but why on earth would they make the best set by far for the already broken dk in pvp?

Its already unplayable with dk abusers

FayJolyn · September 2023

This poll isn't the best. First of all they cannot be p2w since it will be a base game upgrade, everyone will have access to them. As for the sets themselves. I really like them in concept, it's something new. Some of them sound pretty OP (like DK for example), but we will have 6 weeks of PTS first, I'm sure they will get tweaked beforehand.

What is the most interesting is that the devs are clearly looking for new playstyles and trying out new things which I 100% encourage. People have been complaining about classes feeling same-y for the longest of time. I see class sets as a step in the right direction.

Galeriano · September 2023

Punitio wrote: »

Dk set is tier S omega broken for pvp, and the rest are trash not worth using.

It's not, You already get better results with trickery+heroism pots, it will be just an alternative for those who can't afford themselves to use heroism pots.

If anything it's pretty dissapointing set because it doesn't bring anything new to the DK playstyle since setups having increased ulti gen and healing are already present in the game.

FlipFlopFrog · September 2023

I think they're great idea, but they should cover each play style with light, medium and heavy versions which buff the respective skill lines. So imo we need more of them in the future.

FayJolyn · September 2023

FlipFlopFrog wrote: »

I think they're great idea, but they should cover each play style with light, medium and heavy versions which buff the respective skill lines. So imo we need more of them in the future.

They already hinted that they want to release more sets in the future. A set for each class skill line at least. So even if you don't end up liking this first set of a particular class you know you have at least 2 more future class sets to look forward to.

Sets will drop in H/M/L versions, you can mix and tweak yourself depending on your personal choice and needs.

Tenthirty2 · September 2023

Well, idk about the other sets as much, but as a Stamden 2H\bow build I'm not going after the Warden set anytime soon.

And I have no desire to convert my main into a Magden Healer to get the most benefit out of the set, unless I misunderstood what was shown. So much for "play as you want".

I'm ok with that, if others like them that's cool. I like the sets I'm running now and TBH the class sets were of little interest, there is much cooler content in that update for me

FlipFlopFrog · September 2023

FayJolyn wrote: »

FlipFlopFrog wrote: »

I think they're great idea, but they should cover each play style with light, medium and heavy versions which buff the respective skill lines. So imo we need more of them in the future.

They already hinted that they want to release more sets in the future. A set for each class skill line at least. So even if you don't end up liking this first set of a particular class you know you have at least 2 more future class sets to look forward to.

Sets will drop in H/M/L versions, you can mix and tweak yourself depending on your personal choice and needs.

oh i didn't know that! glad to hear.

Lozeenge · September 2023

i mentioned it in the other thread but it's very strange how some of these sets appear to have drawback effects despite not even being a mythic. "lose half of your total main resource after the proc ends" just seems like they're bullying templars at this point.

they're going to be competing with other BiS five-piece sets that have no class restrictions on them. probably because EA is only base game, but shhhhhh

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Mr_Jord_Joe · September 2023

On templar set, i like to know

''When at max stacks, your Dawn's Wrath abilities deal 25% bonus damage and a Wrathful Nova is cast on the enemy, but you cannot refresh Sunlight.''

What is this that not even the set says what it is, I thought it was some skill from the templar himself, but i see nothing else with that name...

SandandStars · September 2023

DK is overpowered

the rest arent worth running, not even for niche builds

weird how bad they are

or is it?

boi_anachronism_ · September 2023

I think that the ppl sitting there going "dks already had this... blah blah blah" need to get a grip and realize that:

A ) their super under the radar, extremely expensive setup that literally no one knows about or uses except serious pvpers that pour through tool tips for hrs.. was never going to cause an unhealthy meta shift.

B ) this set painfully obviously can shift the meta. Its common knowledge, its undeniably strong, and its accessible to literally everyone being a base game set.... and its cheap.

C ) You are arguing completely in bad faith and purposefully sidestepping the issue. It will become one of the most used sets in pvp. Denying it at this point is embarrassing.

The only question that needs to be answered is this: is the set good for the health of the game.

Obviously its not.

Lalothen · September 2023

I think the whole premise of these sets needs to be revisited tbh. Yet more 5-piece sets being added when 70%+ of current 5-piece sets are pointless fillers for loot tables, is not the way to go. They also need to not be making class sets that are clearly OP for PvP. In fact, I don't believe they should be gating any new PvP-oriented sets behind PvE content - so the EA class sets should all be designed for PvE.

I would eventually like to see class sets for PvP too, but frankly that should come as part of some sort of new PvP content.

ESO_Nightingale · September 2023

Lalothen wrote: »

I think the whole premise of these sets needs to be revisited tbh. Yet more 5-piece sets being added when 70%+ of current 5-piece sets are pointless fillers for loot tables, is not the way to go. They also need to not be making class sets that are clearly OP for PvP. In fact, I don't believe they should be gating any new PvP-oriented sets behind PvE content - so the EA class sets should all be designed for PvE.

I would eventually like to see class sets for PvP too, but frankly that should come as part of some sort of new PvP content.

i agree. i think they should be redesigned as 3 piece bonuses.

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