I agree with the rude post above. The choices should really be between Hundings and Leviathan. Although, why not both?

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

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Night_Child wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

I even prefer to jsut slot evil hunter on main bar than using toothrow and if you dont want to use crafted more expensive pots :P

I myself run on harder vet conent with friends and Im able to do every possible content on my stam char usign trash pots and major brutality from skill and savagery from evil hunter xD
ofc not everyone will inv me to every content like from just basic nobody progressing will inv melee stamina dd for vCR+3 etc...but if I have people who trust me I can do every conten in this game using this cheep set for using trash pots xD

otherway Im exp enough to do this content and no...with this setup to use trash pots..not being forced to use craft pots I still do enough dps so it isnt specially low in group, its just enough to be acceptable everywhere and no need to use craft pots as you seems to not want use them also as you was considering to just use set for crit xD

Are you a NB? As a NB, taking up a slot with Evil Hunter is just as useless as having good crit and wasting a 5 piece set on Toothrow, lol. If you are a NB with low crit looking to up that crit chance, Toothrow is a better option than having EH on my bar, imho. Again, this also depends on the rotation. My Killers blade did 56k. That was the highest number I've ever seen on him and he did it only once, but still...I never have EH. It's just a waste in PVE. I admit, I quit PVP a while back, so I cannot speak for PVP as I mostly run PVE and only enter PVP for certain reasons, then leave. So yeah, it just really depends on the abilities the player is using.

What are you on about? DPS is more then a single skill usage. It is fact you will get more DPS with hundings and using pots. Then hundings+Hunter. Then just using toothrow. Not really debatable. Though this really only applies to people that get 90k+ on the trial dummy, to normal people that get less then 30k that dummy, they won't see a difference. Personally I run toothrow on my Stam sorc and just double bar Hunter on my Stamblade, I get ~60k DPS on the trial dummy this way, which translates to about 30k actual DPS in dungeons.

Wtf are you talking about? "What are you on about?" The question is what are YOU going on about? 😆 When people don't fully comprehend the response. Smh.

The OP stated they don't really use pots. My answer which reflected off my original answer (which you probably didn't read) was simply if you are using a skill that has Major Savagery or can get Major Savagery by any means, Toothrow is useless. If you cannot or do not, then the set might help you. Not everyone WANTS to run the same build over and over. If the OP doesn't want to run EH, who are you to force them? At the end of the day, they are going to run what they want. They are going to run a build different than you or I, so you can take that non-debatable bs and sit on it. That's your opinion vs how many other ESO players? That was the moral of my post.

Now, I don't run Toothrow. I tested it versus Leviathan and on MY (not your) build, Toothrow won out. Leviathan lost to inconsistency and slotting EH on my (not your) rotation messed everything up. I use Hunding's on my Shadowscale (Stamina Nightblade) WITHOUT EH and yes, I'm happy with the damage, hold my own, pull my own weight, sustain VERY well, having a 64% chance on crit minimum (solo, but in groups it does go up), completing EVERYTHING in the game while soloing most things excluding some vet dungeons and trials. That's what groups are for. As a matter of fact, every other attack is either 34k-37k in dungeons. 2 out of every 10 attacks (NEVER FAILS) I'll crit 40k-42k. Only once when I slotted KB did I hit a 56k, and only a couple 54k. Like I said. I'm fine with that.

On my Wood Elf I got more DPS removing Hundings. You don't compare Hundings to Toothrow anyway. Just to see...I jumped off shadow and went thief for mundus and replaced Hundings with DKS and jumped up on WD as well as overall damage. On a dummy, I also did slightly better replacing Hunding's with Draugr Hulk. Also, I just don't feel like dummies are as accurate as field testing and it does really depend on a rotation. You have your thoughts and others will have theirs. At the end of the day, as long as you get the job done in a sufficient amount of time and the group or build for solo players is efficient, Idgaf what the next guy is doing because it's working for them. I'm not here to change anyone. Neither should you. You got some 30k dungeon damage dealing to be dishing out...not wasting your time trolling or messing with an OP who wishes to use or not use Toothrow.

you also get the savagery and prophecy from the 5 item Toothrow bonus from Oakensoul Ring, if you are using a 1 bar build

TaSheen wrote: »

Er. You do realize this is a VERY ancient thread, yes?

Yeah, nice necro.

Toothrow is antiquated and obsolete.

Hundings is fair I think. However I would think about trading the weapon dmg given by the set for Critical Dmg. I dunno I'd need to stop and make sure my Crit Dmg was maxed before thinking about adding raw wep dmg. If so then yeah Hundings will work however Crits will always be stronger than just stacking raw dmg.