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OMG my Biggest ESO Pet Peeve!!!!
ElderSmitter
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It is such a small thing but just can put me in a irritated short bad mood so easily. FAILED SIMPLE Chest Lock Picking. I literally just FAILED 5 Times in a Row on a Simple Chest!!!!!! Full passives maxed out. Ok i feel better now for venting... But Seeeeeeriously!!! Is my RNG that bad!
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Necrotech_Master✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭force lock always seems to be significantly worse on simple locks lol
and if it makes you feel better, my record fails was 13x in a row before succeeding on the 14thplays PC/NA
handle @Necrotech_Master
active player since april 2014
i have my main house (grand topal hideaway) listed in the housing tours, it has multiple target dummies, scribing altar, and grandmaster stations (fully filled out with current game), as well as almost every antiquity furnishing on display to preview them
in progress: acquiring mundus stones (currently only have the thief)
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ElderSmitter✭✭✭✭✭Necrotech_Master wrote: »force lock always seems to be significantly worse on simple locks lol
and if it makes you feel better, my record fails was 13x in a row before succeeding on the 14th
Wow 13!!! I am setting a new Rule. 3 Failed and i leave the chest for someone else!!2 -
Necrotech_Master✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭sometimes its faster to just manually pick it than failing to force it more than 3-4 times lol
the other day i had an intermediate chest fail 5 times in a row
i think for most chests ill usually just pick them, but when im on my thief toon and im stealing large quantities of lockboxes ill just force them
the problem i have with forcing them is it eats lockpicks, its instantly -1 lockpick each force, regardless of success or fail, and each repeated fail means that chest is just eating more picks
where as normal picking i can sometimes go 5+ chests without a pick breakingplays PC/NA
handle @Necrotech_Master
active player since april 2014
i have my main house (grand topal hideaway) listed in the housing tours, it has multiple target dummies, scribing altar, and grandmaster stations (fully filled out with current game), as well as almost every antiquity furnishing on display to preview them
in progress: acquiring mundus stones (currently only have the thief)
feel free to stop by and use the facilities3 -
Beilin_Balreis_Colcan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I've never forced a lock in ESO, am I in a minority then?PC(Steam) / EU / play from Melbourne, Australia / avg ping 3909 -
OBJnoob✭✭✭✭✭
✭When oakensoul first got released I got my murkmire strongbox lead from a box that I didn't even click first. It was a master... Someone else got it first, tried to force and instantly failed, I got it picked it manually and got the lead.
I've never tried to force a lock since.2 -
Marcus684✭✭✭✭✭
✭This has been brought up several times in the past, and you're probably just the latest victim of terrible RNG. With "Millions of active players" someone's going to be on the bottom end of the curve.0 -
TaSheen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I've never forced a lock in ESO, am I in a minority then?
You and me both. I don't force locks. As with everything else in this game (or any other....) I'm not in a hurry.______________________________________________________
"But even in books, the heroes make mistakes, and there isn't always a happy ending." Mercedes Lackey, Into the West
PC NA, PC EU (non steam)- four accounts, many alts....1 -
Monte_Cristo✭✭✭✭✭
✭I suspect that force lock chance works in inverse to the lock level. Master opens on first try, simple takes 5 tries.2 -
Grizzbeorn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I've never forced a lock in ESO, am I in a minority then?
It was a few years before I started putting points into and using the Forced Lock skill, but now that I have,
I wouldn't go back.
And yeah, it is frustrating to get several fails in a row (my record is six, also on Simple Chests), but it doesn't happen every day.2 -
Kisakee✭✭✭✭✭
✭ElderSmitter88 wrote: »It is such a small thing but just can put me in a irritated short bad mood so easily. FAILED SIMPLE Chest Lock Picking. I literally just FAILED 5 Times in a Row on a Simple Chest!!!!!! Full passives maxed out. Ok i feel better now for venting... But Seeeeeeriously!!! Is my RNG that bad!
I failed 7 pickpocket attempts with 95% in a row one day, sometimes everything is just against you.I'm but a sarcastic beef jerky. Irony and cynicism are my parents. You've been warned.1 -
TaSheen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭cyberjanet wrote: »
I also never bashed chests in games where that was possible. Lockpicking is the only "thiefly" skill I use....Edited by TaSheen on August 30, 2023 1:53PM______________________________________________________
"But even in books, the heroes make mistakes, and there isn't always a happy ending." Mercedes Lackey, Into the West
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TaSheen✭✭✭✭✭
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[need moar coffee]Edited by TaSheen on August 30, 2023 1:54PM______________________________________________________
"But even in books, the heroes make mistakes, and there isn't always a happy ending." Mercedes Lackey, Into the West
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Arizona_Steve✭✭✭✭✭I pick the locks of all treasure chests manually - even master ones. I wasn't even aware of bashing locks.Wannabe Thalmor - Altmer MagSorc2
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✭I failed the "trivial" lock twice in the Coldharbour prison with a fully levelled and pointed lockpick skill.
I've also failed to pickpocket when it's saying I have 100% chance. That happens often enough to make me contemplate my life choices.0 -
zaria✭✭✭✭✭
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This indicates that force lock don't uses the lock don't uses the chest difficulty as chance factor at all.Ishtarknows wrote: »I failed the "trivial" lock twice in the Coldharbour prison with a fully levelled and pointed lockpick skill.
I've also failed to pickpocket when it's saying I have 100% chance. That happens often enough to make me contemplate my life choices.
An 100% chance lock should never fail.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
Rowjoh✭✭✭✭✭
✭always been deeply suspicious about the rng especially on 85% chance for simple chests.
did my own test once - noted down fails on 500 simple chests over 3 months and the success rate came out at 77%.
and even at 77% its shouldn't be possible to cop 3, 4, or 5 consecutive fails.0 -
Snamyap✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I think the whole passive is weird. Why isn't there a passive that actually makes picking locks easier? Like making the timer go slower or something?
And why do all locks have the same amount of tumblers? Why not have simple locks have two or three tumblers and add one for every difficulty step up? Feels like there is so little thought put into thw whole thing.
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Jaimeh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭There was a thread a while back with someone logging a huge number of chest opening attempts and reporting that the game's success percentages seemed to be lower than the actual percentages, ie., although the game gave an 80% chance to open the chest successfully by forcing it, they found it was actually much lower, closer to 60%, iirc. I don't have any data, but anecdotally I can say that when I fail to pick a lock and immediately force it again, I usually get a number of successive misses, so I think there might be an added layer of conditions whereby when you fail you are more likely to fail again if you try right away. It could be just my impression but it happens consistently enough, so I wonder if besides the percentages being wonky there's also something about failing and the time you have to wait to do another attempt affecting whether you will fail again, regardless of the percentage.0 -
I_killed_Vivec✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I never force locks either.
But I have found that the game sometimes places a "tax" on lock picks.
On most simple locks I pick there will be one tumbler that just refuses to fix in place. No matter what I try, how many goes I have (and I can have quite a few, there's no time pressure on a simple lock). And then, seemingly for no reason, the pick breaks. As soon as that happens it's bang, bang, bang, open sesame! as each tumbler falls into place.
All other locks... easy. Simple locks? They extract this tax.0
