expanded drop pool feedback

Necrotech_Master · August 2023

while i greatly appreciate having more sets drop in overland cyro, there is still a major curation problem there

delve bosses will only drop belts and boots, because they are following the rules of delve bosses
dolmens drop jewelry

so that means all weapons, head armor, chest armor, leg armor, hand armor, and shoulder armor, are still uncurated in cyrodiil, because there are no world bosses or public dungeons

IC gear dropping from trove scamps is a good start there, but the scamps are so rare that i wish there were some other sources (at least the district bosses, or the roaming banner bosses/molag bal event in the middle) should probably drop IC gear

a few other zones still have curation issues as well, such as wrothgar which has no curated jewelry because it has no dolmen equivalent zone event

Lumsdenml · August 2023

Board Missions will drop all other armor pieces. So, yes, uncurated.

Necrotech_Master · August 2023

yes, which all that does is give you more free rolls for this other gear instead of just the town dailies, but doesnt help with actually finishing collections, your still heavily subject to RNG or just buying gear people sell (if people who pvp even bother, most people probably just junk that stuff unless its actually something people want like VD)

Virenic · August 2023

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

IC gear dropping from trove scamps is a good start there, but the scamps are so rare that i wish there were some other sources (at least the district bosses, or the roaming banner bosses/molag bal event in the middle) should probably drop IC gear

Scamp drops don't appear to be curated unfortunately so not especially useful at the end of the day.

ArchangelIsraphel · August 2023

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

yes, which all that does is give you more free rolls for this other gear instead of just the town dailies, but doesnt help with actually finishing collections, your still heavily subject to RNG or just buying gear people sell (if people who pvp even bother, most people probably just junk that stuff unless its actually something people want like VD)

Not sure about others, but when I PVP, if I don't want the gear, I decon it and am back into the fight quickly unless its something I need, or something that will sell well and has a good trait.

The rest tends to rot away unsold if I post it on the guild store, consuming slots that could be used for better, higher value sales. There's a lot of sets that just don't budge even when you post them cheap. So you're right about this.

This update probably wont change that pattern for me. I'll mostly fill out my stickerbook as a priority, sell the good things, and decon the rest because I just can't carry around the sheer amount of stuff I generate in a long PVP session.

Necrotech_Master · August 2023

Virenic wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

IC gear dropping from trove scamps is a good start there, but the scamps are so rare that i wish there were some other sources (at least the district bosses, or the roaming banner bosses/molag bal event in the middle) should probably drop IC gear

Scamp drops don't appear to be curated unfortunately so not especially useful at the end of the day.

thats disappointing if true, though its still better than previous which is no source at all except spending tel var lol

jle30303 · August 2023

Honestly, the rarity of scamps should have been left *as it was* - there is just SO much Imp City gear to get, and they were annoying enough to farm at the best of times.

Also, board mission rewards in Cyrodiil should be curated, given the sheer *number* of items.

Maybe the different types of board mission should have different rewards... with Conquest and Elder Scrolls missions being the ones that give the best stuff.

Suggestion also for Cyrodiil, for people who prefer to get their stuff through PVE:

- Cyrodiil delve bosses should drop all types of armor piece, curated, not just belts and boots.
- Cyrodiil dolmens should drop all kinds of jewelry AND weaponry, curated, not just jewelry

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Meanwhile, in Imperial City, we have such things as:
- daily quest rewards, per zone
- player bounty quest rewards (kill X players of class Y)
- fixed world bosses in sewers
- wandering bosses in city
- wandering bosses below ground
- Molag Bal (who is guarded by 3 of the wandering below ground bosses).

Between them, it should be redesigned so that all types of set loot are curated, from one or more of these sources.

EF321 · August 2023

jle30303 wrote: »

Maybe the different types of board mission should have different rewards... with Conquest and Elder Scrolls missions being the ones that give the best stuff.

Conquest and Scroll don't give gear at all at the moment

Necrotech_Master · August 2023

jle30303 wrote: »

Honestly, the rarity of scamps should have been left *as it was* - there is just SO much Imp City gear to get, and they were annoying enough to farm at the best of times.

Also, board mission rewards in Cyrodiil should be curated, given the sheer *number* of items.

Maybe the different types of board mission should have different rewards... with Conquest and Elder Scrolls missions being the ones that give the best stuff.

Suggestion also for Cyrodiil, for people who prefer to get their stuff through PVE:

- Cyrodiil delve bosses should drop all types of armor piece, curated, not just belts and boots.
- Cyrodiil dolmens should drop all kinds of jewelry AND weaponry, curated, not just jewelry

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Meanwhile, in Imperial City, we have such things as:
- daily quest rewards, per zone
- player bounty quest rewards (kill X players of class Y)
- fixed world bosses in sewers
- wandering bosses in city
- wandering bosses below ground
- Molag Bal (who is guarded by 3 of the wandering below ground bosses).

Between them, it should be redesigned so that all types of set loot are curated, from one or more of these sources.

this is kind of why i started the discussion because the u39 changes are definitely in a good direction, but theres still a lot of areas that are lacking/could use improvement

laniakea_0 · August 2023

jle30303 wrote: »

Honestly, the rarity of scamps should have been left *as it was* - there is just SO much Imp City gear to get, and they were annoying enough to farm at the best of times.

Also, board mission rewards in Cyrodiil should be curated, given the sheer *number* of items.

Maybe the different types of board mission should have different rewards... with Conquest and Elder Scrolls missions being the ones that give the best stuff.

Suggestion also for Cyrodiil, for people who prefer to get their stuff through PVE:

- Cyrodiil delve bosses should drop all types of armor piece, curated, not just belts and boots.
- Cyrodiil dolmens should drop all kinds of jewelry AND weaponry, curated, not just jewelry

I agree with the delve portions but that is too much on dolmens, they can just stay jewelry only. what we need is high difficulty PvE world events in Cyrodiil. something about as difficult as a world boss but without stationary location and a lot more varied. something that ideally also benefit you in PvP. e.g. rogue members of the imperial legions working to drive out the alliances; deal with them to obtain rare rewards (like curated weapons) and unlock temporary bonuses for PvP activities. and that's just one idea. I'm sure they could come up with something.

imaslowlearner · October 2023

@ZOS_Kevin

Any chance you can tell us if they plan to curate IC and Cyro?

katanagirl1 · October 2023

Putting Cyrodiil gear (and not the usual Rewards of the Worthy items) in the Bounty Board rewards boxes was a surprise for me. I’ve gotten a few pieces I didn’t already have so far. This was a good change, thanks.