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Comparing Concealed Weapon and Surprise Attack shows that the game balance is out of order

master_vanargand
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"Concealed Weapon" has "your damage done is increased by 10%" and "increasing your Movement Speed by 15%".
"Surprise Attack" has "the Sundered status effect".
Don't you feel "game balance is bad" comparing these two?

This is too unfair.

Need move Concealed Weapon's "your damage done is increased by 10%" to Veiled Strike (base skill).
Don't penalize people who like "Stamina Nightblade DPS".

I'm not asking you to do anything difficult.
"Play how you like" requires "game balance".
Edited by master_vanargand on July 21, 2023 2:43AM
  • JerBearESO
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    Surprise attack guarantees crit on flank, allowing for incap + surprise attack on a crit damage focused build with no need to invest to crit chance. It has its place PvP wise.

    Also I believe the sundered application applies the damage? And sundered is about 5% damage buff
  • master_vanargand
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    JerBearESO wrote: »
    Surprise attack guarantees crit on flank, allowing for incap + surprise attack on a crit damage focused build with no need to invest to crit chance. It has its place PvP wise.

    Also I believe the sundered application applies the damage? And sundered is about 5% damage buff

    We are talking about PvE.
    Also, "Concealed Weapon" is stronger in PvP.
  • JerBearESO
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    JerBearESO wrote: »
    Surprise attack guarantees crit on flank, allowing for incap + surprise attack on a crit damage focused build with no need to invest to crit chance. It has its place PvP wise.

    Also I believe the sundered application applies the damage? And sundered is about 5% damage buff

    We are talking about PvE.
    Also, "Concealed Weapon" is stronger in PvP.

    It is generally stronger, yes. But surprise has its niche style it's leaning towards. Perhaps they should push into that a bit more instead of making it more like concealed, as morphs should be unique from each other. They could have it's guaranteed crit also hit a bit harder, or apply a brief dot for the 4 second window between guaranteed crits.

    It needs a small boost, or concealed needs a small nerf, but I don't like the idea of a morph becoming more like it's other version versus gaining unique quality.
    Edited by JerBearESO on July 22, 2023 5:01AM
  • master_vanargand
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    JerBearESO wrote: »
    JerBearESO wrote: »
    Surprise attack guarantees crit on flank, allowing for incap + surprise attack on a crit damage focused build with no need to invest to crit chance. It has its place PvP wise.

    Also I believe the sundered application applies the damage? And sundered is about 5% damage buff

    We are talking about PvE.
    Also, "Concealed Weapon" is stronger in PvP.

    It is generally stronger, yes. But surprise has its niche style it's leaning towards. Perhaps they should push into that a bit more instead of making it more like concealed, as morphs should be unique from each other. They could have it's guaranteed crit also hit a bit harder, or apply a brief dot for the 4 second window between guaranteed crits.

    It needs a small boost, or concealed needs a small nerf, but I don't like the idea of a morph becoming more like it's other version versus gaining unique quality.

    PvE stamina Nightblade is in despair.
    Can't understand the suffering of PvE stamina Nightblade?
  • katorga
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    JerBearESO wrote: »
    JerBearESO wrote: »
    Surprise attack guarantees crit on flank, allowing for incap + surprise attack on a crit damage focused build with no need to invest to crit chance. It has its place PvP wise.

    Also I believe the sundered application applies the damage? And sundered is about 5% damage buff

    We are talking about PvE.
    Also, "Concealed Weapon" is stronger in PvP.

    It is generally stronger, yes. But surprise has its niche style it's leaning towards. Perhaps they should push into that a bit more instead of making it more like concealed, as morphs should be unique from each other. They could have it's guaranteed crit also hit a bit harder, or apply a brief dot for the 4 second window between guaranteed crits.

    It needs a small boost, or concealed needs a small nerf, but I don't like the idea of a morph becoming more like it's other version versus gaining unique quality.

    PvE stamina Nightblade is in despair.
    Can't understand the suffering of PvE stamina Nightblade?

    Hyrbidization. There is no "mag" and "stam" any more.

    Use the best morph, split your resource pools and double your sustain for free.
  • master_vanargand
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    katorga wrote: »
    JerBearESO wrote: »
    JerBearESO wrote: »
    Surprise attack guarantees crit on flank, allowing for incap + surprise attack on a crit damage focused build with no need to invest to crit chance. It has its place PvP wise.

    Also I believe the sundered application applies the damage? And sundered is about 5% damage buff

    We are talking about PvE.
    Also, "Concealed Weapon" is stronger in PvP.

    It is generally stronger, yes. But surprise has its niche style it's leaning towards. Perhaps they should push into that a bit more instead of making it more like concealed, as morphs should be unique from each other. They could have it's guaranteed crit also hit a bit harder, or apply a brief dot for the 4 second window between guaranteed crits.

    It needs a small boost, or concealed needs a small nerf, but I don't like the idea of a morph becoming more like it's other version versus gaining unique quality.

    PvE stamina Nightblade is in despair.
    Can't understand the suffering of PvE stamina Nightblade?

    Hyrbidization. There is no "mag" and "stam" any more.

    Use the best morph, split your resource pools and double your sustain for free.

    stamina Nightblade cannot spam "Concealed Weapon".
    So your opinion is denied.
    It's Magickadization, not Hyrbidization.
  • olsborg
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    TBH if they made the base skill (and morphs) use whichever of your resource pools that has highest max, like they did with arcanist skill it would be cool, altho everyone would play concealed ofc...so theres that.

    PC EU
    PvP only
  • birdik
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    olsborg wrote: »
    TBH if they made the base skill (and morphs) use whichever of your resource pools that has highest max, like they did with arcanist skill it would be cool, altho everyone would play concealed ofc...so theres that.

    Easiest solution, already wrote about it, but but..
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