Of course not.

Thanks to all for participating in this poll thus far.

For those interested why I did this poll, here is some background:

There is another thread about Necrom WBs at the moment:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/636224/necrom-world-bosses-are-way-too-difficult/p1

In this very thread a few people pretend, that the enemies in question are way to hard for the average player, even when engaged in groups. Players which allowed themselves to contradict this statements were reprimanded as "elitists" which only try to "gatekeep" content from the majority of the playerbase.

Proof for this claims wasn't presented, so I try to gather some data about what people around this forums are thinking about this bosses.

I'd also like to encourage all of you to share your experiences about this topic in this thread, so zos can react accordingly:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/590162/overland-content-feedback-thread/p171

XSTRONG wrote: »

console players need to wait weeks after PC for some reason

Sony and Microsoft need to sign-off on the patch files, via an internal approval process, before a patch can be deployed to the console platforms.
So the delay is on the console companies.

Are they more difficult than Vvardenfell world bosses? Or Summerset?

World bosses aren’t intended to be soloed by the average player. They should be doable for experiences, well geared players, easy for large groups, and a challenge for a small group unless mechanics are respected well.

Tandor wrote: »

Out of interest, are the "average players" who are complaining that these encounters are too hard the same "average players" who complain that most of the game is too easy?

I haven't the slightest idea to be honest. That's why I made this poll.

If you're interested in the arguments of people which claim to represent this "average players", you can find them here:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/636224/necrom-world-bosses-are-way-too-difficult/p1

It's not about soloing said WBs btw, they tried in groups (2-4) and feel gatekept.

Jammy420 wrote: »

Absolutely not. They are actually fun again. The last time I had fun on world bosses was on Elyweyr with the dragons.

Dragons are world events, not world bosses.

As far as the Elsweyr world bosses, for a long time I couldn't solo any of them, and pretty much avoided them. But eventually I tried again and am now able to solo all of them.

Elsweyr was and is a great chapter. Last night I went there to do 2 of 3 endeavors, and after fighting dragons I decided not to port back to Rimmen to turn in the daily. Instead, I rode south so I could fight 3 world bosses along the way-- even though I'd already done and turned in the world boss daily-- then rode through the center of Elsweyr to head back to Rimmen and fight a fourth world boss on the way. Unfortunately, I was having so much fun that I got sloppy and he killed me, but it was a blast.

Brrrofski wrote: »

Isn't this the same for most world bosses since like Elsweyr?

Being difficult to solo is fine. Only one I hate is the Unmaker in Deadlands, as you need someone else to bash it

@Brrrofski

Actually, if you stay in melee range of his face the entire time, he won't do the roll pin attack. So, you can solo him.

i used to do older WB in the base game up to Summerset

but i never been bothered with WB since, and the only time i will engage in a WB is when i see other players engaging it, and i will just randomly join in hopes i can get it to complete in the map.

But other than that, i can't be bothered with WB especially in Necrom where it's impossible to solo them unlike old WBs where it's still possible to solo

Can't say much about the Necrom ones, but i feel like harder WB is good since it will require more players to work together, and that is what MMORPG is all about, is to bring many players to engage in an activity.

What I would love is some kind of indication that "there are other players at this boss". Not necessarily fighting, but *present at the location*.

If you see that indication, you go there and you know you won't be alone.

If you don't see it, you go there and stay, and then the "other people are present at this location" marker shows up FOR other people, so THEY know that if they come to the boss, they won't be alone.

No - the issue is all the players that come back just for story and such complain when anything doesn't just fall over and die when you look at it.

AzuraFan wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

AzuraFan wrote: »

They're probably too difficult for the average player to solo. But that's okay. As long as there are other players around to help.

And THAT, is the problem. In a couple of months, there will be hardly anyone around... and anyone who has ever tried to use zone chat to ask for help, knows it's pointless as nobody ever shows up.

ZOS really needs to get into a routine of nerfing open world bosses in DLC zones a year after release, so that players can actually solo them due to low population in the zone and lack of enthusiasm for fighting world bosses they've already defeated before. This could also apply to open world EVENTS as well. As I've said in other threads, they need to make the difficulty SCALE to the number of players actively participating, like dolmens. I'm not sure why they cannot, or just plainly refuse, to do this. It would be a win/win for everyone.

Yeah, that was why I didn't vote. My answer was "yes and no." No, as long as other players are also doing them. Yes when the zone becomes a ghost town (and that won't take long with Necrom, given how quiet the zones already are). I agree that group content IN OVERLAND (but I'd love to see this for dungeons, too) should be scaled to the number of players there or nerfed after a certain period of time after release has passed. ESO has too much dead content because ZOS refuses to do this.

Well said! This is exactly why I consider them too difficult , even though I enjoy the difficulty and have been having fun with the mechanics. This will be dead content outside of events just like harrowstorms and dragons in less than 2 months from now. Many players will struggle to complete simple dailies that don't give enough reward for the amount of slog required.

Yeah, I can duo them on my main Templar with a friend or a companion, and it's fun....for now. (I prefer a group for a faster takedown because these long haul fights really do get boring) But this isn't really about soloing or whether it can or should be soloed.

It's about how there simply will not be people around to do these things or help eachother in groups at all. And that's where the problem lies. The content will be dead.

A year from now, and this poll will be completely reversed in its sentiments for exactly these reasons. Mark my words.

jle30303 wrote: »

What I would love is some kind of indication that "there are other players at this boss". Not necessarily fighting, but *present at the location*.

If you see that indication, you go there and you know you won't be alone.

If you don't see it, you go there and stay, and then the "other people are present at this location" marker shows up FOR other people, so THEY know that if they come to the boss, they won't be alone.

Yes, that would be nice. Of course this also means it has zero chance to get implemented...

Braffin wrote: »

In this very thread a few people pretend, that the enemies in question are way to hard for the average player, even when engaged in groups. Players which allowed themselves to contradict this statements were reprimanded as "elitists" which only try to "gatekeep" content from the majority of the playerbase.

Proof for this claims wasn't presented, so I try to gather some data about what people around this forums are thinking about this bosses

Do they ever provide proof when they make those unsubstantiated accusations of "gatekeeping" and "elitism"?