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I hate the new filet option

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  • Gnesnig
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    Reverb wrote: »
    I understand and share the annoyance that the fish filet UI is the default when you access a provisioning station. But I’m not at all sure why so many of you seem to be crafting items for each writ, instead of crafting provisioning items in bulk and banking them.

    Cause bank space is more precious.
    Still it's a bad UX. Only a small portion of recipes use fish and there are alternatives with the same stats for all but the special recipes. So fileting isn't the most common task. UX should have sane defaults.
  • kargen27
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    Braffin wrote: »
    kargen27 wrote: »
    I'm having a different problem. I go to the provisioning station and no tab for cleaning fish at all.

    That's probably caused by an addon.

    But if not, I'd be happy to replicate this problem on my game :smile:

    It's really annoying to retrain muscle memory

    @Braffin turns out it is the addon CraftStore causing my problem and might be your solution. When the option to use Craft Store Cook is on the provisioning table doesn't show the fish cleaning tab.
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  • Braffin
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    kargen27 wrote: »
    Braffin wrote: »
    kargen27 wrote: »
    I'm having a different problem. I go to the provisioning station and no tab for cleaning fish at all.

    That's probably caused by an addon.

    But if not, I'd be happy to replicate this problem on my game :smile:

    It's really annoying to retrain muscle memory

    @Braffin turns out it is the addon CraftStore causing my problem and might be your solution. When the option to use Craft Store Cook is on the provisioning table doesn't show the fish cleaning tab.

    Thanks for the information. I'll give it a try.
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  • I_killed_Vivec
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    Harbinger of ZoS's "QoL" updates we're getting instead of a DLC...
  • Beilin_Balreis_Colcan
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    kargen27 wrote: »
    Braffin wrote: »
    kargen27 wrote: »
    I'm having a different problem. I go to the provisioning station and no tab for cleaning fish at all.

    That's probably caused by an addon.

    But if not, I'd be happy to replicate this problem on my game :smile:

    It's really annoying to retrain muscle memory

    @Braffin turns out it is the addon CraftStore causing my problem and might be your solution. When the option to use Craft Store Cook is on the provisioning table doesn't show the fish cleaning tab.
    Perfect! (for me, anyway) :) I'll keep using CraftStore then, along with Votan's Fish Filet.
    Edited by Beilin_Balreis_Colcan on June 7, 2023 8:24PM
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  • Nebs
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    I was completely surprised about it being the default option, too. I would really appreciate it not being the default option. I can't imagine there are more people are filleting fish than there are crafters.

    I don't fish, ever. My provisioning screen now opens up blank 100% of the time and it's annoying.
  • Calastir
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    I agree with OP.

    Hey, that rhymes! :)
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  • CGPsaint
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    The community provides stellar QoL ideas and yet somehow the actual implementation regularly misses the mark. I don't care if the dev team plays the game or not. They really need a small team of daily players that can tinker with new additions and provide feedback so that QoL adjustments and additions can actually be QoL adjustments and additions.
  • SilverBride
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    I'd like to see Filet between Drinks and Furnishings. This way all of the current tabs would remain where they were and it wouldn't be disruptive to our established routines.

    So it would be Food - Drinks - Filet - Furnishings.

    @ZOS_Kevin Please pass this along.
    Edited by SilverBride on June 8, 2023 5:30PM
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  • SatanicSister
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    Devs probably used other Crafting Stations as a reference, since all of them have raw material refining as the default tab. Also, I'm not bothered by it. Doing an extra click really isn't the end of the world for me.
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  • shadyjane62
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    I don't want to filet my fish this way. Can we remove this option that I have to move every time? Doesn't save time, just adds extra step.
  • Dojohoda
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    I am really surprised that fish filet is first since that is not the primary purpose of the station.
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  • ArchMikem
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    Monte_Cristo wrote: »
    vsrs_au wrote: »
    "filet-world problems" :)

    (sorry, just fishing for likes)

    (OK, I'll stop now)

    Stop trying to bait people.

    That's not baiting at all. That's someone bringing light humor to an otherwise miniscule issue, honestly.
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  • Elvenheart
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Monte_Cristo wrote: »
    vsrs_au wrote: »
    "filet-world problems" :)

    (sorry, just fishing for likes)

    (OK, I'll stop now)

    Stop trying to bait people.

    That's not baiting at all. That's someone bringing light humor to an otherwise miniscule issue, honestly.

    If I was going to guess, I would think that in this instance the use of “bait” is meant to be humorous as well due to the fishy topic, but I may be wrong 🐠
  • SilverBride
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    Elvenheart wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Monte_Cristo wrote: »
    vsrs_au wrote: »
    "filet-world problems" :)

    (sorry, just fishing for likes)

    (OK, I'll stop now)

    Stop trying to bait people.

    That's not baiting at all. That's someone bringing light humor to an otherwise miniscule issue, honestly.

    If I was going to guess, I would think that in this instance the use of “bait” is meant to be humorous as well due to the fishy topic, but I may be wrong 🐠

    I was about to say the same thing.
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  • barney2525
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    Braffin wrote: »
    kargen27 wrote: »
    I'm having a different problem. I go to the provisioning station and no tab for cleaning fish at all.

    That's probably caused by an addon.

    But if not, I'd be happy to replicate this problem on my game :smile:

    It's really annoying to retrain muscle memory

    If you are just trying to filet, you don't need to go anywhere. Open inventory, put the mouse over the fish, should have an E option to "use" (filet). If you have the votan filet addon you don't even have to keep hitting the button. It filets the whole stack.

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  • Gargath
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    I agree that putting fish filleting on first screen is a bit annoying. Especially when someone does the speed runs with daily writs on multiple characters, and is accustomed to same repeatable chain of crafting stations. Like someone pointed to, there is an addon that manages this issue with filleting fishes. And probably most players do not play with fishes/filleting at all, like myself. Then it's hard to understand why ZOS wasted money on the same functionality but embedded in game. In my opinion they should focus on more important aspects, like to finally allow the tresure maps to be stacked in inventory and bank.
    Edited by Gargath on June 8, 2023 5:53PM
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  • Braffin
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    barney2525 wrote: »
    Braffin wrote: »
    kargen27 wrote: »
    I'm having a different problem. I go to the provisioning station and no tab for cleaning fish at all.

    That's probably caused by an addon.

    But if not, I'd be happy to replicate this problem on my game :smile:

    It's really annoying to retrain muscle memory

    If you are just trying to filet, you don't need to go anywhere. Open inventory, put the mouse over the fish, should have an E option to "use" (filet). If you have the votan filet addon you don't even have to keep hitting the button. It filets the whole stack.

    :#

    Yes, I know. But has this to do with the problem at hand? (That you have to do an extra click every time you want to cook anything).
    Never get between a cat and it's candy!
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    SilverBride wrote: »
    Elvenheart wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Monte_Cristo wrote: »
    vsrs_au wrote: »
    "filet-world problems" :)

    (sorry, just fishing for likes)

    (OK, I'll stop now)

    Stop trying to bait people.

    That's not baiting at all. That's someone bringing light humor to an otherwise miniscule issue, honestly.

    If I was going to guess, I would think that in this instance the use of “bait” is meant to be humorous as well due to the fishy topic, but I may be wrong 🐠

    I was about to say the same thing.

    As was I.
  • CGPsaint
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    Gargath wrote: »
    I agree that putting fish filleting on first screen is a bit annoying. Especially when someone does the speed runs with daily writs on multiple characters, and is accustomed to same repeatable chain of crafting stations. Like someone pointed to, there is an addon that manages this issue with filleting fishes. And probably most players do not play with fishes/filleting at all, like myself. Then it's hard to understand why ZOS wasted money on the same functionality but embedded in game. In my opinion they should focus on more important aspects, like to finally allow the tresure maps to be stacked in inventory and bank.

    Or how about letting siege stack? Or having a quick action wheel for siege? There are so many QoL improvements needed.

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    They also open the first set of recipes instead of going into the menu with all of them closed. I have a wonky mouse wheel and can't scroll most of the time so it takes awhile to click down to the recipes I need.
    Edited by Kesstryl on June 8, 2023 9:17PM
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  • Beilin_Balreis_Colcan
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    Elvenheart wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Monte_Cristo wrote: »
    vsrs_au wrote: »
    "filet-world problems" :)

    (sorry, just fishing for likes)

    (OK, I'll stop now)

    Stop trying to bait people.

    That's not baiting at all. That's someone bringing light humor to an otherwise miniscule issue, honestly.

    If I was going to guess, I would think that in this instance the use of “bait” is meant to be humorous as well due to the fishy topic, but I may be wrong 🐠
    and that's exactly how I received it, I wasn't offended. :)
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  • Beilin_Balreis_Colcan
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    Gargath wrote: »
    I agree that putting fish filleting on first screen is a bit annoying. Especially when someone does the speed runs with daily writs on multiple characters, and is accustomed to same repeatable chain of crafting stations. Like someone pointed to, there is an addon that manages this issue with filleting fishes. And probably most players do not play with fishes/filleting at all, like myself. Then it's hard to understand why ZOS wasted money on the same functionality but embedded in game. In my opinion they should focus on more important aspects, like to finally allow the tresure maps to be stacked in inventory and bank.
    Glyphs should be stacked in inventory also, that's long overdue.
    PC(Steam) / EU / play from Melbourne, Australia / avg ping 390
  • shadyjane62
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    In my case this is a most annoying fix to a problem I didn't have till they fixt it.
  • Alinhbo_Tyaka
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    Kesstryl wrote: »
    They also open the first set of recipes instead of going into the menu with all of them closed. I have a wonky mouse wheel and can't scroll most of the time so it takes awhile to click down to the recipes I need.

    I've never liked that the menu doesn't open in a collapsed state.
  • Rikkadir
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    It should have been left as it was.
    They certainly know know how to [snip] people off.

    Thanks.
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    Edited by ZOS_Icy on July 1, 2023 1:12PM
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  • Jaimeh
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    I play with gamepad, and I agree with OP, it's indeed annoying having to bypass it every time you interact with the station. I was also surprised they didn't make it more inconspicuous, and chose to put if before crafting, it should have been on a different tab, like furnishing is.
  • Elrond87
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    i aint using the cook station anymore, i did 5k fish at once on it for 13 roe
    Edited by Elrond87 on July 1, 2023 12:08PM
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  • Four_Fingers
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    Don't see what the fuss is about pushing the down arrow once to make a selection on a 2- entry menu. smh
    Better than having to hit X hundreds of times to fillet.
  • Grizzbeorn
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    I rather like the new filet option. It saves a HUGE amount of time over the old way, even with the add-on.

    It would be fine if they moved the filet tab on the Provisioning station UI to another position, so that fileting is not the default tab, but other than that, please don't mess with it.
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