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I hate the new filet option

  • shadyjane62
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    The new filet option should be just that. I would so like to get rid of it. It does not produce the same amount of perfect roe that hand crafting does. And it is in my way when I want to use cooking.

    Not all things that look like progress are worth the time and in some ways are a step back. Please make it so this filet option is just that, an option.
  • AzuraFan
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    The new filet option should be just that. I would so like to get rid of it. It does not produce the same amount of perfect roe that hand crafting does.

    I've noticed that too. I've not received a single perfect roe using the bulk option, so I've now returned to doing it by hand. I think this might be a bug that needs to be looked at.

    (I fish a lot, so I know approximately how many fish I have to filet to get a perfect roe. I've gone well past that with the bulk option and it's noticeable that I didn't receive any at all.)

  • virtus753
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    AzuraFan wrote: »
    The new filet option should be just that. I would so like to get rid of it. It does not produce the same amount of perfect roe that hand crafting does.

    I've noticed that too. I've not received a single perfect roe using the bulk option, so I've now returned to doing it by hand. I think this might be a bug that needs to be looked at.

    (I fish a lot, so I know approximately how many fish I have to filet to get a perfect roe. I've gone well past that with the bulk option and it's noticeable that I didn't receive any at all.)

    Kevin has reported from the devs that the chances at perfect roe are the same from filleting in bulk vs individually. Could you post your numbers and send them in to the devs to look at? If it is not working the way the devs say it should, that is something they (and we) should be made aware of, but we do need the numbers to show it.
  • rpa
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    I don't regularily fish these days, but I tried bulk fileting at provisioning station what I had and got 1 roe from about 300 fish. Far too small sample to say anything other than perfect roe really does drop that way too.
  • Hamish999
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    What I dislike about the new filleting option is that it's not in the API (as stated by the add-on author on it's page). Which means I have to disable CraftStore, fillet my fish and then re-enable CraftStore.

    As for drop rates, they seem fine too me, had plenty of Perfect Roe whilst using the new bulk filleting option.
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  • Grizzbeorn
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    I've gotten 46 Perfect Roe since the new filet option was added.
    Most of it was from my initial session of 3,000+ fish (held-over from my Master Fisher run).
    Edited by Grizzbeorn on July 2, 2023 6:03AM
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    • AzuraFan
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      virtus753 wrote: »
      Kevin has reported from the devs that the chances at perfect roe are the same from filleting in bulk vs individually. Could you post your numbers and send them in to the devs to look at? If it is not working the way the devs say it should, that is something they (and we) should be made aware of, but we do need the numbers to show it.

      Unfortunately I didn't track the numbers. I just noticed that I was never getting perfect roe when filleting in bulk. Could be really, really, really lousy RNG, I suppose. But still, I'll stick with manual for now.

    • lexicondevil99
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      Meh, all I do is push buttons all day, what's a few more?
    • Brrrofski
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      Elrond87 wrote: »
      i aint using the cook station anymore, i did 5k fish at once on it for 13 roe

      Just bad RNG.

      I did 2.8k after completing master angler and got 37.
    • Rikkadir
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      AzuraFan wrote: »
      I fish a lot, so I know approximately how many fish I have to filet to get a perfect roe. I've gone well past that with the bulk option and it's noticeable that I didn't receive any at all.

      I've had two perfect roes within five filets, so it must be random.
      And I didn't use the 'Blade of Woe' for fileting. lol
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    • Four_Fingers
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      I am still getting about 1 Roe for 100 fish as always.
    • AzuraFan
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      I must just be having really bad RNG then. I haven't had a perfect roe since Necrom was released. No big deal. I don't sell perfect roe or craft anything with it. Just something I noticed.
    • Rikkadir
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      AzuraFan wrote: »
      I must just be having really bad RNG then. I haven't had a perfect roe since Necrom was released. No big deal. I don't sell perfect roe or craft anything with it. Just something I noticed.

      I haven't had any perfect roe since Necrom was released either.
      The only time I use them is crafting provisioner master writs, so they do come in handy.
      I've noticed a lot of stuff doesn't appear anymore since Necrom. :(
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    • TwiceBornStar
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      I'm loving the new options, I can filet fish much faster now and of course I can filet the whole bunch at once at a cooking fire. What's not to like?
    • Four_Fingers
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      I will note I am fishing in older zones. I will try fishing in the Telvanni Peninsula and see if my roe drop rate drops.
    • StarOfElyon
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      It's literally just a matter of pressing down once. It won't take long to get used to.
    • bbrown0770
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      Just fish a lot more then most I guess because I like the way it is
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    • Soraka
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      I'm not super fond of it, but I think my muscle memory is just getting thrown off. I assume I'll eventually get used to it.
    • StarOfElyon
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      AzuraFan wrote: »
      The new filet option should be just that. I would so like to get rid of it. It does not produce the same amount of perfect roe that hand crafting does.

      I've noticed that too. I've not received a single perfect roe using the bulk option, so I've now returned to doing it by hand. I think this might be a bug that needs to be looked at.

      (I fish a lot, so I know approximately how many fish I have to filet to get a perfect roe. I've gone well past that with the bulk option and it's noticeable that I didn't receive any at all.)

      I filleted almost 700 fish on the first day (console) and got 11 perfect roe. I stored up all those fish because filleting then one at a time was excruciating. This new system is 1000x better. I will NOT give it up.
    • Zenzuki
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      CGPsaint wrote: »
      The community provides stellar QoL ideas and yet somehow the actual implementation regularly misses the mark. I don't care if the dev team plays the game or not. They really need a small team of daily players that can tinker with new additions and provide feedback so that QoL adjustments and additions can actually be QoL adjustments and additions.

      The ZOS devs are definitely the masters of the Monkey Paw!

      They'll eventually get around to adding a much requested feature, but it will always come with some weird side effect or unforeseen draw-back nobody thought about or wanted!

      Please move the "filet" option to its own tab either before or after the furniture tab.

      Us Master Crafters with 10+ characters that do daily crafting writs thank you for your understanding!
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    • Scaletho
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      Is there a fillet button? Where? :o
    • Hapexamendios
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      The fillet function is nice. The placement is questionable. Could have been places at the bottom of the other menu without any hassles.
    • AzuraFan
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      I filleted almost 700 fish on the first day (console) and got 11 perfect roe. I stored up all those fish because filleting then one at a time was excruciating. This new system is 1000x better. I will NOT give it up.

      Oh, I like the new bulk option. I was just wondering if there was a bug with perfect roe, is all.

    • Necrotech_Master
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      Scaletho wrote: »
      Is there a fillet button? Where? :o

      provisioning station has a new tab for filleting fish
      AzuraFan wrote: »
      I filleted almost 700 fish on the first day (console) and got 11 perfect roe. I stored up all those fish because filleting then one at a time was excruciating. This new system is 1000x better. I will NOT give it up.

      Oh, I like the new bulk option. I was just wondering if there was a bug with perfect roe, is all.

      i havent noticed a bug with the perfect roe, ive fillet about 300 fish mostly using the new method and ive gotten at least 1 or 2 perfect roe, it did not show roe as popup in the results but i checked craft bag and my roe count definitely increased
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    • AzuraFan
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      i havent noticed a bug with the perfect roe, ive fillet about 300 fish mostly using the new method and ive gotten at least 1 or 2 perfect roe, it did not show roe as popup in the results but i checked craft bag and my roe count definitely increased

      I think it's probably a bug if the perfect roe isn't showing up as part of the fillet results. Okay, so either I've been having really bad RNG, or I haven't noticed that I did get perfect roe but the results didn't show it.

    • Necrotech_Master
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      AzuraFan wrote: »
      i havent noticed a bug with the perfect roe, ive fillet about 300 fish mostly using the new method and ive gotten at least 1 or 2 perfect roe, it did not show roe as popup in the results but i checked craft bag and my roe count definitely increased

      I think it's probably a bug if the perfect roe isn't showing up as part of the fillet results. Okay, so either I've been having really bad RNG, or I haven't noticed that I did get perfect roe but the results didn't show it.

      true i guess it would be a bug if its not displaying with the results

      since refining normally shows when tempers are given i would assume the same from roe with the fish

      i definitely noticed my roe supply increasing though, i normally only had 1 but i was at 3 after i finished all of the rare fish in necrom (where i got the 300 fish to fillet)
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    • katanagirl1
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      I am trying to get used to one more button push to see if I have any items that need crafting (since it does 4 at a time, hitting the cooking fire is the easiest way to see if I need to do more), so I’m not crazy about that.

      The thing I do like is now the provisioning station requires two clicks of the circle button to exit and that makes it the same as every other crafting table. Before it was just one and it always threw me off, no matter how long I’ve been doing it. I guess that is because I do writs first thing in the morning.
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    • Rikkadir
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      I just filet from inventory, as always. :p
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