Patch Notes - PvP Related

Photosniper89 · April 2023

Is this truly all we can expect for PvP this patch? PvE has an insane amount of changes every patch and PvP has next to nothing - ever. I truly just want ZOS to acknowledge the frustration from the PvP community instead of deleting posts and hiding from it. People "complain" because they are passionate about PvP, they care. ESO's PvP is by far the best PvP I have every played in a game before - when it works. How are we still having the same desyncs that popped up some 4-5 years ago? The skills/lag was okay for a bit after the refresh but we are back to, if not worse than, how it was prior to the refresh.

Please ZOS - I am literally begging you to be open about honest with your community about the state of PvP. Your lack of communication regarding PvP is the exact reason why the forums are flooded with PvP posts, your twitch streams chat are flooded with PvP spam (that your mods delete non stop until the user gets banned from chat).

What happened to the exciting changes to cyro you promised, the improved communication you promised, the year of performance improvements, the code rewrite, where has been the follow up communication on any of that?

I understand things changes, plans change, decisions get made... but communicate that. If you've given up on PvP for whatever reason that is fine, just communicate it so we can set our expectations.

(For those that say PvP doesnt bring in money you're wrong. I have literally spend thousands on this game and am solely PvP... and can point to numerous people in the same boat as me).

Hamish999 · April 2023

They have stated that they don't want to add anything major to PVP until the server refresh has been completed. Going from what has come out from the Vegas event it sounds like the Q4 patch next year might be a big PvP update (going from what a content creator said of the AMA).

Photosniper89 · April 2023

Hamish999 wrote: »

They have stated that they don't want to add anything major to PVP until the server refresh has been completed. Going from what has come out from the Vegas event it sounds like the Q4 patch next year might be a big PvP update (going from what a content creator said of the AMA).

Do you have a link to where this is? I watched the Vegas event and didn't hear PvP mentioned at all but I could have missed it being covered.

Photosniper89 · April 2023

Hamish999 wrote: »

They have stated that they don't want to add anything major to PVP until the server refresh has been completed. Going from what has come out from the Vegas event it sounds like the Q4 patch next year might be a big PvP update (going from what a content creator said of the AMA).

Wroth mentioning I think the vast majority of PvP players top concern is getting the desynced fixes. Aside from adding destructible towers back I don't hear anyone asking for new content (although I wouldn't complain if they added new content).

Hamish999 · April 2023

Photosniper89 wrote: »

Hamish999 wrote: »

They have stated that they don't want to add anything major to PVP until the server refresh has been completed. Going from what has come out from the Vegas event it sounds like the Q4 patch next year might be a big PvP update (going from what a content creator said of the AMA).

Do you have a link to where this is? I watched the Vegas event and didn't hear PvP mentioned at all but I could have missed it being covered.

Video starts at the relevant time, not confirmed, but heavily hinted at. https://youtu.be/7RnsvjB4EaY?t=222

Photosniper89 · April 2023

Hamish999 wrote: »

Photosniper89 wrote: »

Hamish999 wrote: »

They have stated that they don't want to add anything major to PVP until the server refresh has been completed. Going from what has come out from the Vegas event it sounds like the Q4 patch next year might be a big PvP update (going from what a content creator said of the AMA).

Do you have a link to where this is? I watched the Vegas event and didn't hear PvP mentioned at all but I could have missed it being covered.

Video starts at the relevant time, not confirmed, but heavily hinted at. https://youtu.be/7RnsvjB4EaY?t=222

So by this video, and the "hint", we can then say it's basically 2 years before PvP gets touched.

Again, I stand by my original post. Communication shouldn't revolve around an influencers speculation on what may happen.

ZOS_Icy · April 2023

Greetings,

This thread has been moved to the Public Test Server section, as it is better suited there.

Thank you for your understanding.

Photosniper89 · April 2023

Move to PTS, where threads go to die.

Classic.

Jamie_Aubrey · April 2023

So if I understand we can only see the message if we CLAIM a keep or does it still show if we don't ?

ON PC EU there's a EP group that like to hide in keeps after we take them, its always the same keep, so if they wait 5-10 mins and then start attacking everyone gets a notification that 5 guards have died at X keep meaning we can port without having to scout ?

Say I claim Dragonclaw for my own guild and claim the lumber for my pvp guild and I'm sitting in Fare ( as an AD ) and EP take the Farm, I'll not get the alert but if they go and take the lumber and kill 1 guard I'll be alerted ?

I'm probably wording this all wrong but I hope you get what I mean

RealLoveBVB · April 2023

Jamie_Aubrey wrote: »

So if I understand we can only see the message if we CLAIM a keep or does it still show if we don't ?

ON PC EU there's a EP group that like to hide in keeps after we take them, its always the same keep, so if they wait 5-10 mins and then start attacking everyone gets a notification that 5 guards have died at X keep meaning we can port without having to scout ?

Say I claim Dragonclaw for my own guild and claim the lumber for my pvp guild and I'm sitting in Fare ( as an AD ) and EP take the Farm, I'll not get the alert but if they go and take the lumber and kill 1 guard I'll be alerted ?

I'm probably wording this all wrong but I hope you get what I mean

That's what it is doing yes.

It's somewhat nice, that they include guilds more into pvp and make claiming more useful. But in my opinion that's not a good feature. It will pretty much punish small groups, that needs a bit longer for sieging.

If one plays pvp only, he can claim 5 keeps with all his guild slots and can control every activity, while scouting a 6th keep.

Taking keeps from inside or "surprise attacks" are pretty much history now.

OBJnoob · April 2023

RealLoveBVB wrote: »

Taking keeps from inside or "surprise attacks" are pretty much history now.

I wouldn't bet on that necessarily. I wonder where exactly the message pops up. If it's on your screen, like when a scroll gets picked up, then maybe. If it's anywhere you have to look for it, such as in the social tab somewhere or in your mailbox, I think the feature will largely go unnoticed and underutilized kinda like the new marking system.

I just don't know many people personally that will sit around waiting to defend. If the alert happens when you're in transit, sure, you'll go on back and handle it. If you're just starting to siege somewhere else... Well then you're probably not going to pack up and leave.

But we'll see... I could be totally wrong. Most of the people I know just run from fight to fight and/or keep to keep trying to make AP as fast as possible. I haven't seen a group or guild care about campaign objectives or defending keeps in years.

TechMaybeHic · April 2023

I'm sure they just missed the patch notes for the first round of code re-architecture/optimization/ multi threading adver will see those soon. Surely they are not just stringing us along.

Photosniper89 · April 2023

TechMaybeHic wrote: »

I'm sure they just missed the patch notes for the first round of code re-architecture/optimization/ multi threading adver will see those soon. Surely they are not just stringing us along.

.... I wish I had your kind of faith.

shadyjane62 · April 2023

TechMaybeHic wrote: »

I'm sure they just missed the patch notes for the first round of code re-architecture/optimization/ multi threading adver will see those soon. Surely they are not just stringing us along.

I have lost all hope things will improve.