Give the thieves some love

DarthCuddlefluff · April 2023

I couldn't help but to notice we have a ton of really cool but highly situational antiquity pieces of gear and still nothing for thieves. I just wanted to suggest that they add the Ring of Kahjitti to the game as an antiquity that somehow helps in pickpocketing. I'm not asking for anything as broken as a Cowl of Nocturnal, but maybe something that has swift on it naturally that reduces sight radius in sneaking and gives a bonus chance to successfully pickpocket.

And while they are at it I would love to see style pages for antiquity gear. But what do you guys think?

FluffWit · April 2023

Sounds good to me.

I was actually just thinking it'd be nice if they did weekly objectives to do Heists and/or Brotherhood sacraments.

I think they did that weekly once way back but they set it to 6 sacraments and kinda got laughed at since that requires doing them 6 out of 7 days. But if you combined both jobs and dropped the requirement to 5 itd be pretty reasonable and fun.

Anyways sorry I'm kinda hijacking your topic there. So again, yes I'd like a mythic that buffs thieves!

DarthCuddlefluff · April 2023

FluffWit wrote: »

Sounds good to me.

I was actually just thinking it'd be nice if they did weekly objectives to do Heists and/or Brotherhood sacraments.

I think they did that weekly once way back but they set it to 6 sacraments and kinda got laughed at since that requires doing them 6 out of 7 days. But if you combined both jobs and dropped the requirement to 5 itd be pretty reasonable and fun.

Anyways sorry I'm kinda hijacking your topic there. So again, yes I'd like a mythic that buffs thieves!

No, no. Feel free. It pushes engagement.

isadoraisacat · April 2023

DarthCuddlefluff wrote: »

I couldn't help but to notice we have a ton of really cool but highly situational antiquity pieces of gear and still nothing for thieves. I just wanted to suggest that they add the Ring of Kahjitti to the game as an antiquity that somehow helps in pickpocketing. I'm not asking for anything as broken as a Cowl of Nocturnal, but maybe something that has swift on it naturally that reduces sight radius in sneaking and gives a bonus chance to successfully pickpocket.

And while they are at it I would love to see style pages for antiquity gear. But what do you guys think?

I’d like to see more Daedric items inserted into the game.

Supreme_Atromancer · April 2023

I'd like to see more thief stuff in general. More, new heists would be awesome.

More quests associated with all the traditional guilds would be great, not least among them Thieves Guild.

Ring of Khajiiti sounds awesome. I'm down.

I definitely think that there's a niche for gear and skills that interact with the game in more ways than just straight-up combat.

PrimeSeptim · April 2023

Supreme_Atromancer wrote: »

I definitely think that there's a niche for gear and skills that interact with the game in more ways than just straight-up combat.

The Syvarras's Scales set kinda has the right idea with the (4 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka, Reduces your damage taken from Guards by 20% but it would be nice to have something more like;

(2 items) Adds x amounts of stamina and increases movement speed by x% while sneaking
(3 items) Increases chance of successfully pickpocketing by x%
(4 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka, Reduces your damage taken from Guards by 20%
(5 items) Reduces detection radius by x% while sneaking

Something like that.

I really hope they someday add more reason to go back to these older zones. No need to make a whole new DLC or anything crazy but just add in some more furnishings and just more... stuff... from pickpocketing, heists, etc.

TybaltKaine · April 2023

Oh yeah, an actual functioning version of like, Rajhin's Mantle that gave you bonuses to stealth and pickpocket would be glorious.

KiltMaster · April 2023

oh, that would be awesome! I'd also love to see more furnishings you can get from thieving!

Dr_Con · April 2023

A DB/Thieves Guild mythic that gets stronger the more you murder with the blade of woe or the more you steal from others, but decays if you don't do either, would be sublime.

edit 1: Nobody can complain about an OP mythic that you have to maintain.

edit 2: Nevermind there will always be someone who will complain about something.

DarthCuddlefluff · April 2023

TybaltKaine wrote: »

Oh yeah, an actual functioning version of like, Rajhin's Mantle that gave you bonuses to stealth and pickpocket would be glorious.

I want a lot more Rajhin items to be honest. A whole outfit would be nice.

El_Borracho · April 2023

I would like to see them expand the Thieves Guild line into something where every zone, and maybe every city, would have an objective you could steal. Kind of like the master thief achievements in the new zones, but you get something in return. So instead of an achievement, you steal a rare furnishing, recipe, motif, etc. that you get to keep and use/display in your home.

mocap · April 2023

Fata1moose · April 2023

DB/Thieves Guild mythics would be welcome. I’d also like to see more quests for those guilds. The DB has more than the Gold Coast chapter and plenty of opportunity for other Thieves Guild stuff too.

Carcamongus · April 2023

Considering I've managed to fail pickpocketing despite having 100% chance of success, anything that made that "property rearrangement" activity less annoying and more rewarding would be a win for me.

I'm surprised mythic style pages haven't been released yet. I'd love to put on that vampiric cuirass and the Gaze of Sithis. Speaking of stuff that's not out, when in blazes are we getting the Dawnbreaker style??

Kisakee · April 2023

Give me something that scales with bounty and i'll become one of the most broken multividuals in all existence.

DarthCuddlefluff · April 2023

Carcamongus wrote: »

Considering I've managed to fail pickpocketing despite having 100% chance of success, anything that made that "property rearrangement" activity less annoying and more rewarding would be a win for me.

I'm surprised mythic style pages haven't been released yet. I'd love to put on that vampiric cuirass and the Gaze of Sithis. Speaking of stuff that's not out, when in blazes are we getting the Dawnbreaker style??

That happens to me too btw.

Hotdog_23 · April 2023

Love the idea. Said many times before and will say again. Really wish they would add at least one new map each year to the Heists and/or Brotherhood sacraments.

Stay safe

phaneub17_ESO · April 2023

That Mantle from Grahtwood would make a nice Mythic Item. Not sure how it would be implemented, I guess infinite Break Free at no cost as it creates shadow clones of yourself that take your place.

notyuu · April 2023

having something that gives a bonus to pickpocket change would be nice

also for those unaware super sneaking i.e. being basically undetectable is possible just stack
3 Pieces night terror
5 pieces night mothers embrace
4 pieces darloc brae

The "reduces the radius you can be detected while sneaking" bonus stacks up and ta-da you hit min detection raidus of 0.5 meters (I think it's that, can remember back on pts when min value wasn't a thing you would end up literally undectable)

Trejgon · April 2023

What I would like to see on a thievery/murdery sneaky mythic would be removal of speed penalty while sneaking - so far you either need to run a vampire for that, or loose 5p set for it, and everything else is just reduction, but never full reduction in that penalty.

meaning that for my sneaky characters I feel kinda forced into vampire.

notyuu wrote: »

having something that gives a bonus to pickpocket change would be nice

also for those unaware super sneaking i.e. being basically undetectable is possible just stack
3 Pieces night terror
5 pieces night mothers embrace
4 pieces darloc brae

The "reduces the radius you can be detected while sneaking" bonus stacks up and ta-da you hit min detection raidus of 0.5 meters (I think it's that, can remember back on pts when min value wasn't a thing you would end up literally undectable)

all three of those is overkill, witll full med armor, cp node, and two of those set on a non-khajit you already run into a situation that with exception of mobs with enhanced detection (wolves, mudcrabs this sort of things) you need to pretty much collide hitboxes to flash detected.

ImmortalElf13 · April 2023

They should put up a second board in the Thieves Den and a second book in the Sanctuary for DLC zones. Have the quests given there be *slightly* more difficult, *slightly* better reward, and can only do like 3 a day. Something to respawn interest in the guilds without overdoing it. Maybe add a new achievement each.

Ragnarok0130 · April 2023

DarthCuddlefluff wrote: »

I couldn't help but to notice we have a ton of really cool but highly situational antiquity pieces of gear and still nothing for thieves. I just wanted to suggest that they add the Ring of Kahjitti to the game as an antiquity that somehow helps in pickpocketing. I'm not asking for anything as broken as a Cowl of Nocturnal, but maybe something that has swift on it naturally that reduces sight radius in sneaking and gives a bonus chance to successfully pickpocket.

And while they are at it I would love to see style pages for antiquity gear. But what do you guys think?

The only things thieves deserve is a jail cell! ;-)

zaria · April 2023

notyuu wrote: »

having something that gives a bonus to pickpocket change would be nice

also for those unaware super sneaking i.e. being basically undetectable is possible just stack
3 Pieces night terror
5 pieces night mothers embrace
4 pieces darloc brae

The "reduces the radius you can be detected while sneaking" bonus stacks up and ta-da you hit min detection raidus of 0.5 meters (I think it's that, can remember back on pts when min value wasn't a thing you would end up literally undectable)

Remember the out of sight passive in the craft CP give 3 more meter, Khajiit give 3 more.
Before the new CP I found that on an Khajiit with 3 sneak sets the npc would push you around but not detect you.
Think Bosmer's or guard npc could still detect you if they bumped you as it was not 100% foolproof.
On a Khajiit I would drop one of the sets, perhaps replace with night silence

Add ring of the wild hunt for faster moving speed.