And now we've got Gamemasters Movori. Draxis, and Horgger all on at the same time wiping out bots...

Jyntai_Bow wrote: »

Still out of hand, bots all just logged back in and started up again. I am starting to get worried now about the future of this game. I'm trying to believe in you Zenimax but its getting harder and harder with every patch. Hire more people! Something...

I am afraid it actually is Too Late to correct.

Imagine this..
They hire 5 new people Right Now.

One who sits at a screen and watches all the public chats, clicking to BAN anyone who tries to sell gold using them - as they show up. One attempt to sell gold - one ban.

The other 4, GMs - with 2 jobs.
#1 - Immediate, Live response to bot activity.
#2 - To investigate accounts Automatically flagged for suspicious behavior by a server-side code addition that simply checks every X seconds - how far you have traveled since the previous check. If you are too far from where you Were, A GM is signaled to come see if you are using a teleport or speed hack.

In One Day - gold spammers are forced into hiding. The reason for Botting at all is reduced to a tiny trickle rather than a flood.
And the added cost of replacing accounts constantly because the GMs are always coming around to find them.. makes use of bots too expensive to continue.

The bots .. gone, the gold sellers, gone.. And tomorrow - they fix Every bug.. (hey we can dream)

The game would Still never live down the reputation it has already built up over the rampant, Obvious - Open bot activity and hacks.


A month ago, you could hit up any game site, YouTube, Twitter, etc.. and there were Two groups of people when it came to ESO.
A small group who seemed determined to find reasons to hate it.
And everyone else - many of whom were vocal in defense of the game.

Go check those same places today.
The sides have reversed. Those complaining are a Vast majority, and those trying to defend the game are like ants trying to push back a tsunami.

It's good to see that the GM's are on duty now. I hope and it may be naive of me that there won't be too much of an impact on the economy

p.hurst1b16_ESO wrote: »

I wonder if the rapid spawning nodes are simply honey traps for bots.

They were not there when I went through the zones. There are often normal nodes quite nearby.

Keeps them out of the dungeons and stops them farming overland mobs.

Lots are reporting the bots and if you make notes and go back a couple of days later.... different ones.

They Were there, they just weren't being used this way.
Think of it this way..
You have 10 boxes for people to look in.. but you don't want All the boxes to ever be empty..
So you decide that any time 4 or more of the boxes are empty, One of them gets refilled.

So.. what happens if you have 5 people - each standing by a box, emptying it as it gets filled?


As to the honey-trap idea.. it would be monumentally stupid of them to use it that way.
It would be like having children go visit the homes of local *** so you can arrest them for pedophelia... next week.
- regardless of your Purpose, the damage can't be Undone.

Just reported a whole army of them again, in the usual Stonefalls district. Time for the GM ban stick to get active again

Not sure if this is related in anyways to the invisible bot farming but...

Once you reach Coldhabour and you try to search cabinets, nightstands, desk etc, it always turns up 'empty'. Not even the usual junk like lockpicks, provision mats or even crafting materials. Just straight up 'empty'. Only a few occasions, I can loot from these places but the items are always lockpicks. How are we suppose to get motifs or recipes? Can anyone confirm that theyre also having this issue?

stefaan.de.wasch1b16_ESO wrote: »

So bleeding what ? Is people having more legendary crafting mats then you really such a big deal ? Seriously... I'd love to know if it's anything more then people just being jealouse and crying over the fact that someone else has more toys then they do...

You and a lot of people are missing the big picture. Bots are a problem because they eat up valuable server resources in ways the servers were never meant to handle.

Best example I can think of was during the period spammers were sending guild invites to random players with the guild's title being the actual advertisement. The developers neglected to put a cap on the limit of sending invites and thus it occurred so fast the servers were visibly lagging.

I could care less who has shinier toys than me, but I do care when the servers are lagging because the bots have discovered some alternative method to gather their resources.

The Real Fix: Add many more Material Spawning Points.
The Likely Fix: Making the material impossible to get for everyone.
Example: Diminishing Returns on bosses making it impossible to farm the same or even different bosses in a short period for loot, which ruins the entire point.