Hide Shoulders - Seriously?

Vahlyance · February 2023

Oh boy here I go being mad at ZoS again.

Why is HIDE SHOULDERS a limited time event ticket unlock? Like the night/day hourglass? [Which I missed because I uninstalled for like six months].
These should be default standard options we should have, and not have to grind for or potentially miss.

All these stupid routes and monetization practices in this game have me livid.
We should just HAVE these.

Like whoever thought it was a cool and quirky idea to take the updated retextures for the base race motifs and turn them in to antiquity findables, leaving the old resolution motifs in the game.
I have some very awful words for you that I cannot say here.

tomofhyrule · February 2023

UndauntedValiance wrote: »

Oh boy here I go being mad at ZoS again.

Why is HIDE SHOULDERS a limited time event ticket unlock? Like the night/day hourglass? [Which I missed because I uninstalled for like six months].
These should be default standard options we should have, and not have to grind for or potentially miss.

All these stupid routes and monetization practices in this game have me livid.
We should just HAVE these.

Like whoever thought it was a cool and quirky idea to take the updated retextures for the base race motifs and turn them in to antiquity findables, leaving the old resolution motifs in the game.
I have some very awful words for you that I cannot say here.

It's not a limited time thing.

It will start being available at the Impresario with the Jester's Festival. Once the Jester's Fest is over, her assistant will have it in perpetuity. It's like the Firepot spider we got last year, the event ticket thing for that was available at her assistant forevermore, and as long as you had tickets you could buy it even outside of events.

Also coming in the next patch: a buyable version of the hourglass. That one is Tribunal themed and will be available in the Crown Store, and I believe it will also be available from Rolis Hlaalu - or at least it is on PTS.

colossalvoids · February 2023

It's not time limited one by the way, it would stay there.

Vahlyance · February 2023

Awgh, I see. My judgement may have been clouded in reading it, assumed it was the same situation.

But even IF it isn't a limited thing this time, I still think it should be a default thing.
The other problems shouldn't be problems.

I will however, be a little happy if Rolis carries the alternate.
I spend so much time houses, I've been barking over needing a night/day switch for houses.
And they do it like this, and while I'm gone. I am HURT. WOUNDED.

Meiox · February 2023

UndauntedValiance wrote: »

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But even IF it isn't a limited thing this time, I still think it should be a default thing.
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Player1: we want more ingame earnable stuff
Player2: there is nothing I want to buy with event tickets
ZOS --> you can get Hide shoulders with event tickets

Player3: it should be there as default, I don't want to do anything for it !!

Tommy_The_Gun · February 2023

It is... "the most anticipated feature" of 2023 content

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And... I am not even trying to be funny. It seems like this is the case. How many players wanted Arcanist class ? And how many players wanted the ability to "hide shoulders" ? Yeah...

emilyhyoyeon · February 2023

yeah I also found it weird how instead of just added into the outfit station in an update, you have to buy it from a vendor, who I thought only sells stuff for gold, but he does not

Animar111 · February 2023

So if you buy it once @ZOS_GinaBruno is it then available for all characters or do I have to buy hide shoulders for each character on my account.

Maitsukas · February 2023

Animar111 wrote: »

So if you buy it once @ZOS_GinaBruno is it then available for all characters or do I have to buy hide shoulders for each character on my account.

It's a Collectible Style, once you buy it, you can apply it to all of your characters at an Outfit Station.

Animar111 · February 2023

Maitsukas wrote: »

Animar111 wrote: »

So if you buy it once @ZOS_GinaBruno is it then available for all characters or do I have to buy hide shoulders for each character on my account.

It's a Collectible Style, once you buy it, you can apply it to all of your characters at an Outfit Station.

Thanks kinda got worried there thinking of all those precious tickets I’d have to spend.

Destai · February 2023

I just want to know why it can’t be a base game feature like hide helmet. Why does it have to be a style page?

Destai · February 2023

Meiox wrote: »

UndauntedValiance wrote: »

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But even IF it isn't a limited thing this time, I still think it should be a default thing.
........

Player1: we want more ingame earnable stuff
Player2: there is nothing I want to buy with event tickets
ZOS --> you can get Hide shoulders with event tickets

Player3: it should be there as default, I don't want to do anything for it !!

I feel like there’s a difference between new earnables and how this is being rolled out. The functionality already exists, but for whatever reason they have to put it behind an event. Feels like yet another nudge to the crown store, get people to buy tickets, when they could just add it. There’s a lot of people who are just fatigued by the constant nudges, so it’s a fair criticism I feel. I’m happy it’s going to be available in perpetuity, that’s rare for them.

Dr_Con · February 2023

Meiox wrote: »

UndauntedValiance wrote: »

....
But even IF it isn't a limited thing this time, I still think it should be a default thing.
........

Player1: we want more ingame earnable stuff
Player2: there is nothing I want to buy with event tickets
ZOS --> you can get Hide shoulders with event tickets

Player3: it should be there as default, I don't want to do anything for it !!

you missed players 4-99 saying the same thing as players 1 and 2

emilyhyoyeon · February 2023

EDIT: they will NOT be listed for gold, actually. This is very weird

I want to reiterate that hide shoulders will be available for gold, permanently, after the event.

It's weird that it's not easily available until after an event, but do not worry about spending event tickets on it.

phaneub17_ESO · February 2023

Destai wrote: »

I just want to know why it can’t be a base game feature like hide helmet. Why does it have to be a style page?

So they can track how many people purchase it.

Dr_Con · February 2023

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

I want to reiterate that hide shoulders will be available for gold, permanently, after the event.

It's weird that it's not easily available until after an event, but do not worry about spending event tickets on it.

if we don't get another deer variant to waste tickets on the people will riot

DivineKitty · February 2023

I actually don't mind that it comes from the event vendor, and the fact that it's also available after the event ends is great.

A lot of the time in the past year, most of the things from the event vendor have been kinda boring. Like that lame scale skin that didn't even cover the whole body, or the hideous Daggerfall Paladin costume that made you look like a discount Power Ranger, while at the same time looking awful no matter what dye you applied to it.

What I mean is, I'd rather buy something actually good from the vendor then feel obliged to spend my tickets on something that's mediocre at best, and adding them to the event merchant at least seems like a creative use of the Impresario.

TaSheen · February 2023

UndauntedValiance wrote: »

Awgh, I see. My judgement may have been clouded in reading it, assumed it was the same situation.

But even IF it isn't a limited thing this time, I still think it should be a default thing.
The other problems shouldn't be problems.

I will however, be a little happy if Rolis carries the alternate.
I spend so much time houses, I've been barking over needing a night/day switch for houses.
And they do it like this, and while I'm gone. I am HURT. WOUNDED.

Rolis isn't the assistant; Philius Dormier is the assistant and is always at the Impresario tents around the world.

Ragnarok0130 · February 2023

Meiox wrote: »

UndauntedValiance wrote: »

....
But even IF it isn't a limited thing this time, I still think it should be a default thing.
........

Player1: we want more ingame earnable stuff
Player2: there is nothing I want to buy with event tickets
ZOS --> you can get Hide shoulders with event tickets

Player3: it should be there as default, I don't want to do anything for it !!

I'm militant about farming even tickets but I do agree with the OP that it should be a default function of the outfit station and shouldn't be limited to shoulders. This functionality should extend to every piece of the outfit, it's simply bizarre to limit the hide functionality to the shoulder piece.

ZOS_Kevin · February 2023

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

I want to reiterate that hide shoulders will be available for gold, permanently, after the event.

It's weird that it's not easily available until after an event, but do not worry about spending event tickets on it.

Hi All, just to clarify here. The hide shoulders will be available during Jester's Festival. They were not available during PTS, but will be when the event is Live. The hide shoulders will not be available for gold. We noted the following in the patch notes for Week one PTS: "After Jesters Festival ends, the Hide Shoulder collectible will be on her assistant, Philius Dormier, forever more!"

However, the shoulders will still be purchasable with event tickets year round at this vendor, not with gold.

ArchMikem · February 2023

Consider this a test of theirs to see just how wanted it really is. If they see a massive amount of players spending tickets for the page then they might go ahead and continue giving us hide options for the other slots as well over time.

And yes they want us to at least have SOME involvement in "earning" the page. We can't expect everything handed to us for free. Remember, ZOS had these hide options on a dev build since Vvardenfell launch. Be grateful they finally decided to give it to us.

Kiralyn2000 · February 2023

Meiox wrote: »

UndauntedValiance wrote: »

....
But even IF it isn't a limited thing this time, I still think it should be a default thing.
........

Player1: we want more ingame earnable stuff
Player2: there is nothing I want to buy with event tickets
ZOS --> you can get Hide shoulders with event tickets

Player3: it should be there as default, I don't want to do anything for it !!

So should the next UI improvements, or graphics options, or QoL improvement, be 'collectable in-game' as well, because people want more things to collect?

(seriously, this seems more like it should be just part of the system, not something you need to unlock/collect.)

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"Next Major Patch - in an improvement of the leveling experience, you no longer automatically gain your second weapon/action bar at level 15; instead, you now unlock it for event tickets!"

whitecrow · February 2023

Even though it's unlimited it's still a dumb way to offer it. It's functional, not cosmetic. I mean it's sort of cosmetic but you know.

Araneae6537 · February 2023

ArchMikem wrote: »

Consider this a test of theirs to see just how wanted it really is. If they see a massive amount of players spending tickets for the page then they might go ahead and continue giving us hide options for the other slots as well over time.

And yes they want us to at least have SOME involvement in "earning" the page. We can't expect everything handed to us for free. Remember, ZOS had these hide options on a dev build since Vvardenfell launch. Be grateful they finally decided to give it to us.

Agreed! I’m grateful to be getting the option and it will be available “forever more” so we’re not being pushed to buy tickets — just get it when you have extra or there’s nothing else you want. I’m happy to have more options to spend tickets on, especially since it’s not limited time, so I can finish my long-desired Dawnwood Indrik first.

emilyhyoyeon · February 2023

Araneae6537 wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

Consider this a test of theirs to see just how wanted it really is. If they see a massive amount of players spending tickets for the page then they might go ahead and continue giving us hide options for the other slots as well over time.

And yes they want us to at least have SOME involvement in "earning" the page. We can't expect everything handed to us for free. Remember, ZOS had these hide options on a dev build since Vvardenfell launch. Be grateful they finally decided to give it to us.

Agreed! I’m grateful to be getting the option and it will be available “forever more” so we’re not being pushed to but tickets — just get it when you have extra or there’s nothing else you want. I’m happy to have more options to spend tickets on, especially since it’s not limited time, so I can finish my long-desired Dawnwood Indrik first.

True, but why list it for event tickets at all? Especially when it's being added to a vendor after the event, 99.9% of whose stock is purchased with gold, not tickets.

Only thing I can think of is what other people have said and it's a response to people who give feedback about not having stuff to spend event tickets on. But yeah.

Necrotech_Master · February 2023

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

Araneae6537 wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

Consider this a test of theirs to see just how wanted it really is. If they see a massive amount of players spending tickets for the page then they might go ahead and continue giving us hide options for the other slots as well over time.

And yes they want us to at least have SOME involvement in "earning" the page. We can't expect everything handed to us for free. Remember, ZOS had these hide options on a dev build since Vvardenfell launch. Be grateful they finally decided to give it to us.

Agreed! I’m grateful to be getting the option and it will be available “forever more” so we’re not being pushed to but tickets — just get it when you have extra or there’s nothing else you want. I’m happy to have more options to spend tickets on, especially since it’s not limited time, so I can finish my long-desired Dawnwood Indrik first.

True, but why list it for event tickets at all? Especially when it's being added to a vendor after the event, 99.9% of whose stock is purchased with gold, not tickets.

Only thing I can think of is what other people have said and it's a response to people who give feedback about not having stuff to spend event tickets on. But yeah.

to go along with this, just because it will be listed on the event merchant assistant year round, tickets themselves are still not available year round

so while you may have access to buy it outside of an event, it still relies on having an event to get the tickets to buy it

Tandor · February 2023

It's a reminder to everyone who wants things added to the game or changed within it to be careful what they wish for. Even those who get what they want rarely like the way it is implemented. Skill points for alts, achievements for alts, now hide shoulders, all examples that should be borne in mind when putting forward other suggestions.

Hurbster · February 2023

It should just be a toggle in the options. But I can't complain because this is how you do it for your FF14 glamour.

shadyjane62 · February 2023

Just figure out a style that has a collar not shoulders. I would never waste a ticket on hiding shoulders.

Jusey1 · February 2023

tomofhyrule wrote: »

UndauntedValiance wrote: »

Oh boy here I go being mad at ZoS again.

Why is HIDE SHOULDERS a limited time event ticket unlock? Like the night/day hourglass? [Which I missed because I uninstalled for like six months].
These should be default standard options we should have, and not have to grind for or potentially miss.

All these stupid routes and monetization practices in this game have me livid.
We should just HAVE these.

Like whoever thought it was a cool and quirky idea to take the updated retextures for the base race motifs and turn them in to antiquity findables, leaving the old resolution motifs in the game.
I have some very awful words for you that I cannot say here.

It's not a limited time thing.

It will start being available at the Impresario with the Jester's Festival. Once the Jester's Fest is over, her assistant will have it in perpetuity. It's like the Firepot spider we got last year, the event ticket thing for that was available at her assistant forevermore, and as long as you had tickets you could buy it even outside of events.

Also coming in the next patch: a buyable version of the hourglass. That one is Tribunal themed and will be available in the Crown Store, and I believe it will also be available from Rolis Hlaalu - or at least it is on PTS.

This doesn't help because the point is still there: ZOS are being greedy. A basic option that should just be freely available or even in the base game back when the game first was released should NEVER be put behind a wall.

(Though, this is assuming that it is 30 event tickets like other highly requested features. If it ends up being like 2-5 tickets, then I guess it'll be a bit more alright).

tomofhyrule · February 2023

Jusey1 wrote: »

tomofhyrule wrote: »

UndauntedValiance wrote: »

Oh boy here I go being mad at ZoS again.

Why is HIDE SHOULDERS a limited time event ticket unlock? Like the night/day hourglass? [Which I missed because I uninstalled for like six months].
These should be default standard options we should have, and not have to grind for or potentially miss.

All these stupid routes and monetization practices in this game have me livid.
We should just HAVE these.

Like whoever thought it was a cool and quirky idea to take the updated retextures for the base race motifs and turn them in to antiquity findables, leaving the old resolution motifs in the game.
I have some very awful words for you that I cannot say here.

It's not a limited time thing.

It will start being available at the Impresario with the Jester's Festival. Once the Jester's Fest is over, her assistant will have it in perpetuity. It's like the Firepot spider we got last year, the event ticket thing for that was available at her assistant forevermore, and as long as you had tickets you could buy it even outside of events.

Also coming in the next patch: a buyable version of the hourglass. That one is Tribunal themed and will be available in the Crown Store, and I believe it will also be available from Rolis Hlaalu - or at least it is on PTS.

This doesn't help because the point is still there: ZOS are being greedy. A basic option that should just be freely available or even in the base game back when the game first was released should NEVER be put behind a wall.

(Though, this is assuming that it is 30 event tickets like other highly requested features. If it ends up being like 2-5 tickets, then I guess it'll be a bit more alright).

It is 5 tickets.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

the Hide Shoulder “collectible” is available from the Impresario during this event for 5 Event Tickets. After Jesters Festival ends, the Hide Shoulder collectible will be on her assistant, Philius Dormier, forever more!