Alternatively, I think Class Change tokens can be good for ESO towards the end of its life when the Devs have stopped changing class skills every three months and players have less reason/willingness to level up alts.


Right now, yes, I'd want to buy a 6 month warranty with any class change token. I mean, everyone remembers how much tweaking Wardens and Necromancers got within their first six months, right?

ZOS should know better than to do evil monetary practices like that. It’d cause more people to leave, so less customers for eso+, crown store, etc. Just because it’s a route doesn’t mean it has to be taken.

Edit: Also, most people who want class change are people who want it for more roleplay reasons than chasing whatever class is best. People have alts for that.

Soarora wrote: »

ZOS should know better than to do evil monetary practices like that.

Even if ZOS does refrain from manipulating balance to sell tokens, they'll still be accused of doing so every time they adjust a class. It's a lose-lose situation for them.

I'd rather see ZOS focus there attention on other areas instead of this.

I'm not a PVP'r but I feel bad for them not getting the attention they deserve. I just wish people would focus there attention to other areas and realize they have no plans on a class change token.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi everyone, just wanted to let you all know that we do not have any plans on implementing class changes tokens at this time. There are a number of technical challenges with implementing them, and it would take a significant amount of time to solve these challenges efficiently and safely.

Skoomah wrote: »

Class change tokens are a terrible idea.

1. It gives ZOS an economic incentive to intentionally make classes imbalanced to get people to buy the tokens.
2. Imbalanced classes ruins the game for people who enjoy playing one over the other. And if people aren’t enjoying the game anymore, that’s when they start quitting.

If the tokens are always purchasable you are probably very much right.

However, I've proposed on two or so occasions following implementation that allows players to switch one of their characters once to a new class when such a new class becomes available.

The implementation should be as follows:
- tokens will not be purchasable. Never ever.
- one single one-time token is made available to each player account when a new class is released. This token is removed from the account once used.
- the character for which the token is used retains his total number of skill points but loses all experience gathered for their old class. This character would have to farm experience again for the new class skills.
- optional: This token might be restricted in such a way that it only allows a switch to the newly released class.

This implementation is imho a good compromise. It answers to the wish of several players to switch a charachter to another class because they started to feel they've made a bad choice (from an rpg point of view this might happen) or because they imagined their character as a class that however was not available when the character was created. It would also prevent class hopping and as it would work only once or twice depending of the number of new classes in the future and hence would not result in a large loss of unsold skill line or sky shard sales via the crown store.

the1andonlyskwex wrote: »

AnduinTryggva wrote: »

Skoomah wrote: »

Class change tokens are a terrible idea.

1. It gives ZOS an economic incentive to intentionally make classes imbalanced to get people to buy the tokens.
2. Imbalanced classes ruins the game for people who enjoy playing one over the other. And if people aren’t enjoying the game anymore, that’s when they start quitting.

If the tokens are always purchasable you are probably very much right.

However, I've proposed on two or so occasions following implementation that allows players to switch one of their characters once to a new class when such a new class becomes available.

The implementation should be as follows:
- tokens will not be purchasable. Never ever.
- one single one-time token is made available to each player account when a new class is released. This token is removed from the account once used.
- the character for which the token is used retains his total number of skill points but loses all experience gathered for their old class. This character would have to farm experience again for the new class skills.
- optional: This token might be restricted in such a way that it only allows a switch to the newly released class.

This implementation is imho a good compromise. It answers to the wish of several players to switch a charachter to another class because they started to feel they've made a bad choice (from an rpg point of view this might happen) or because they imagined their character as a class that however was not available when the character was created. It would also prevent class hopping and as it would work only once or twice depending of the number of new classes in the future and hence would not result in a large loss of unsold skill line or sky shard sales via the crown store.

OMG. The tears will be so delicious when people regret their change a month later.

Maybe. But this is already the case. I have a one or two toons that I don't like playing. And this without any class change token at all...

AnduinTryggva wrote: »

the1andonlyskwex wrote: »

AnduinTryggva wrote: »

Skoomah wrote: »

Class change tokens are a terrible idea.

1. It gives ZOS an economic incentive to intentionally make classes imbalanced to get people to buy the tokens.
2. Imbalanced classes ruins the game for people who enjoy playing one over the other. And if people aren’t enjoying the game anymore, that’s when they start quitting.

If the tokens are always purchasable you are probably very much right.

However, I've proposed on two or so occasions following implementation that allows players to switch one of their characters once to a new class when such a new class becomes available.

The implementation should be as follows:
- tokens will not be purchasable. Never ever.
- one single one-time token is made available to each player account when a new class is released. This token is removed from the account once used.
- the character for which the token is used retains his total number of skill points but loses all experience gathered for their old class. This character would have to farm experience again for the new class skills.
- optional: This token might be restricted in such a way that it only allows a switch to the newly released class.

This implementation is imho a good compromise. It answers to the wish of several players to switch a charachter to another class because they started to feel they've made a bad choice (from an rpg point of view this might happen) or because they imagined their character as a class that however was not available when the character was created. It would also prevent class hopping and as it would work only once or twice depending of the number of new classes in the future and hence would not result in a large loss of unsold skill line or sky shard sales via the crown store.

OMG. The tears will be so delicious when people regret their change a month later.

Maybe. But this is already the case. I have a one or two toons that I don't like playing. And this without any class change token at all...

Sure, but you can at least go back to your previous character the way things are now. A one-time class change wouldn't have that option.

People said the same about Alliance change tokens. Turns out they didn't ruin the game.

Why anyone would be opposed to people having a chance to enjoy their mains again through class changes after the butchery that happened in update 35 is beyond me. Especially with a new class on the way.

That's just pure hyperbole & cynicism in one post.

Wow, So is this about not wanting to level up a new character? Just take one of your max-level characters and change the class. Is that what you guys want?

If it were any class but this one, I would pay for one despite having 17 or 18 empty slots.

However tacky lime green everything with tentacles is a complete turnoff.

Guess it's another year as a solo player gimped Templar without High Isle or Necrom.

It wouldn't change a thing. ZOS already has the economic incentive to introduce a powerful, attractive class to sell a chapter.

It might lead to more one-character players trying out a different class, which is not a bad thing.