silvereyes wrote: »

Too late for this Update in any case. But even if they do eventually offer class change tokens, you can be darned sure it's going to be monetized. I'm honestly surprised AwA wasn't. Maybe even ZOS is embarrassed to actually charge for this mess.

If they announced something like this and said it would be a feature of the next chapter I'd be happy to wait, I do have to agree with you on the monetization though, a class change system would decrease sales of skill lines and skyshards.

I wouldn't want to see ZoS dig themselves into yet another hole they can't dig themselves out of.

Everest_Lionheart wrote: »

silvereyes wrote: »

Too late for this Update in any case. But even if they do eventually offer class change tokens, you can be darned sure it's going to be monetized. I'm honestly surprised AwA wasn't. Maybe even ZOS is embarrassed to actually charge for this mess.

Zezin wrote: »

silvereyes wrote: »

Too late for this Update in any case. But even if they do eventually offer class change tokens, you can be darned sure it's going to be monetized. I'm honestly surprised AwA wasn't. Maybe even ZOS is embarrassed to actually charge for this mess.

If they announced something like this and said it would be a feature of the next chapter I'd be happy to wait, I do have to agree with you on the monetization though, a class change system would decrease sales of skill lines and skyshards.

What they can do is offer it for free and every time you want to switch class you have to level all of your skill lines again if you ever decided to switch back, however if you pay crowns for the class change you can freely switch back and forth between classes with the leveling of all class skills where you left off. Implement some kind of a cooldown so people can’t abuse the system like say locking a character into its class for 30 days under the free system versus 24 hours for paid and you’ve got something that can both be monetized and free if you are willing to put in the time. That’s all the crown store really is for skill lines and race changes just a shortcut to save time.

No that would be the same as not having it at all for me, I don't mind leveling a second class on a character once, but I want to change at any time I want without cooldowns.

Bleakz wrote: »

Or they could make it a tabbed style to the armory system and then treat the “class change” as unlocking and losing access to skill lines like it does with vampire and werewolf for each of the tabs

obviously to monetize it they would only give a second “class” for all players, another added as an ESO+ and in true ESO fashion the rest would be a per character crown store purchase

Not as bad as a token, I'd be fine with that.

I would actually pay crowns if they make classes unlockable within a character.

I think the problem with this is that at this point a lot of players, myself included, have made a bunch of alts just to play different class/role combinations. Just up and making a system that basically tells them "Yeah, all of that you did? Worthless. Now pay up and play every class on the same character". I get that with account-wide achievements it does feel like we're playing one character to some, but at least alts still have a purpose.

And as many have stated in this thread, they are gonna monetize the *** out of it, so what's the point? It would still be less of an asking price to make use of your 8 base character slots and make do with those, than having to spend what would inevitably be an ungodly amount just to swap classes every now and then. And yes, I do think they would overprice such a feature, like pretty much every "service" thing you can buy in the CS (still can't wrap my head around the price of outfit slots).

joerginger wrote: »

KMarble wrote: »

With AWA they are making alts less desirable. The armory system had already rendered them less useful - depending on how one plays..

For me it's the opposite. I'm looking forward to actually playing my alts instead of knowing that everything I'm doing is completely wasted because I should be playing my main character instead.

Yes, thank you. That's the main reason why I'm excited about this update. And I get the fact that it's really rough around the edges, but I still appreciate the idea.

Mushroomancer wrote: »

I think the problem with this is that at this point a lot of players, myself included, have made a bunch of alts just to play different class/role combinations. Just up and making a system that basically tells them "Yeah, all of that you did? Worthless.

Here is how it will break down.

1. Do we make more money selling skill lines, skyshards, and such a la carte?
2. Do we make more money selling class changes and losing possible sales of number 1?

Say a player spends 10K crowns per alt avoiding the grind of setting up an alt, one time versus a player with 1 character doing multiple 3K class changes.

Assume long term players like me did all of this before the crown options were even available, so no sales options there. So there is some calculation as to the market size of either options. I don't what they growth rate is of new players (1 year or less).

class change ill ruin the game

For casual gamers like a class change token would be an amazing freature. I don't have the same amount of time than other players and Invested a lot of my free time playing a class that at the end didn't like me. So I had to start a new alt, and eventually got bored and get back to my main char because didn't want to start from the scratch.

So I think it would be great to have this freature and won't mine to pay 5k Cr or whatever to have it while saving my time which it is really important.

TheEndBringer wrote: »

Class change would have a negative impact on the game.

Every patch you'd have a large amount of people changing their main character to whatever class is meta. Especially in pvp. Yes people can make new characters but there's a lot of work and time that goes into that, which is a good thing.

In my opinion this is a very weak point. A player changing their main character class to a meta one already has alts with that meta class, like 100%. There's nothing stopping them from doing it now and they certainly do. I want a class change token for my really old 2014 character that is a templar. Templar is so boring to me now, it's just jabs and more jabs, both magicka and stamina and it being such an old character it can't be replaced in any way for me.

kojou wrote: »

Meh... its not that hard to level a new character of the class you want to change to. Just make another character.

Leveling is fine the problem is grinding all the skill lines.

Yeah its easy levelling new characters but then ive gotta buy all the motifs again and do a bunch of research again for each of the 7 useless templars i have on my account for daily writs. Anyway im quite sure even though itd be great to have i dont think it will happen class change, ive levelled a brand new non crafting account now so atleast i have more options in the combat dept.😁