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Veteran Maelstrom Perfect Run!

  • Tornaad
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    Congrats!

    Clearing vMA for the first time, going on 5 years ago, still ranks among my favorite memories in ESO, possibly even moreso than Flawless. Overcoming that kind of challenge is a great feeling.

    Yes, it does.
  • Tornaad
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    Juju_beans wrote: »
    Congratulations. I hope to accomplish that one day myself.

    Thank you. The big keys to success that I found, are in this order.
    1. Get to where you can be calm and comfortable when running the arena. If you get stressed out, you are likely going to mess up. (Or at least that is what I found) To get there, you need to become familiar with the mechanics of each arena and know what you should be doing.
    2. If something is not moving towards you (other than the ghosts on the last level) Kill it fast.
    3. If something was attacking you and stops (assuming you have not killed it) kill it faster Archers often have charge up attacks and some staff wielding deadra have flame attacks that are almost insta kills on you.
    4. For the annoying Argonian on the poison level, Save your ultimate until after the tenders come out, and then kill one of them to send him into a rage and then while shielded by the second tender drop your ultimate. I can generally get him to around 30% and from there it is easy to kill him, and you just have to watch out for the poison bombs.
  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    Zuboko wrote: »
    Juju_beans wrote: »
    Congratulations. I hope to accomplish that one day myself.

    Thank you. The big keys to success that I found, are in this order.
    1. Get to where you can be calm and comfortable when running the arena. If you get stressed out, you are likely going to mess up. (Or at least that is what I found) To get there, you need to become familiar with the mechanics of each arena and know what you should be doing.
    2. If something is not moving towards you (other than the ghosts on the last level) Kill it fast.
    3. If something was attacking you and stops (assuming you have not killed it) kill it faster Archers often have charge up attacks and some staff wielding deadra have flame attacks that are almost insta kills on you.
    4. For the annoying Argonian on the poison level, Save your ultimate until after the tenders come out, and then kill one of them to send him into a rage and then while shielded by the second tender drop your ultimate. I can generally get him to around 30% and from there it is easy to kill him, and you just have to watch out for the poison bombs.

    I am gonna go out on a limb bet your hands were shaking pretty hard when you jumped down from the platform on the final boss with no deaths at that point. Mine didnt stop shaking for about an hour the first time. HAHA

    All good advice. Getting comfortable with mechanics, Kill priority, and burn strats (knowing what you can burn and more importantly what you can't) are key to VMA.
  • Cazador
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    Zuboko wrote: »
    Juju_beans wrote: »
    Congratulations. I hope to accomplish that one day myself.

    Thank you. The big keys to success that I found, are in this order.
    1. Get to where you can be calm and comfortable when running the arena. If you get stressed out, you are likely going to mess up. (Or at least that is what I found) To get there, you need to become familiar with the mechanics of each arena and know what you should be doing.
    2. If something is not moving towards you (other than the ghosts on the last level) Kill it fast.
    3. If something was attacking you and stops (assuming you have not killed it) kill it faster Archers often have charge up attacks and some staff wielding deadra have flame attacks that are almost insta kills on you.
    4. For the annoying Argonian on the poison level, Save your ultimate until after the tenders come out, and then kill one of them to send him into a rage and then while shielded by the second tender drop your ultimate. I can generally get him to around 30% and from there it is easy to kill him, and you just have to watch out for the poison bombs.

    One thing I'd like to add to this is to watch your health on the final boss when you have to destroy the crystals in the final arena. I once had a failed no death run because of a combination of fall damage and landing on a blue ghost.
  • Tornaad
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    Zuboko wrote: »
    Juju_beans wrote: »
    Congratulations. I hope to accomplish that one day myself.

    Thank you. The big keys to success that I found, are in this order.
    1. Get to where you can be calm and comfortable when running the arena. If you get stressed out, you are likely going to mess up. (Or at least that is what I found) To get there, you need to become familiar with the mechanics of each arena and know what you should be doing.
    2. If something is not moving towards you (other than the ghosts on the last level) Kill it fast.
    3. If something was attacking you and stops (assuming you have not killed it) kill it faster Archers often have charge up attacks and some staff wielding deadra have flame attacks that are almost insta kills on you.
    4. For the annoying Argonian on the poison level, Save your ultimate until after the tenders come out, and then kill one of them to send him into a rage and then while shielded by the second tender drop your ultimate. I can generally get him to around 30% and from there it is easy to kill him, and you just have to watch out for the poison bombs.

    I am gonna go out on a limb bet your hands were shaking pretty hard when you jumped down from the platform on the final boss with no deaths at that point. Mine didnt stop shaking for about an hour the first time. HAHA

    All good advice. Getting comfortable with mechanics, Kill priority, and burn strats (knowing what you can burn and more importantly what you can't) are key to VMA.

    My hands were fine, but after I finished there was some major celebration which included a lot of jumping around.
  • Tornaad
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    Cazador wrote: »
    Zuboko wrote: »
    Juju_beans wrote: »
    Congratulations. I hope to accomplish that one day myself.

    Thank you. The big keys to success that I found, are in this order.
    1. Get to where you can be calm and comfortable when running the arena. If you get stressed out, you are likely going to mess up. (Or at least that is what I found) To get there, you need to become familiar with the mechanics of each arena and know what you should be doing.
    2. If something is not moving towards you (other than the ghosts on the last level) Kill it fast.
    3. If something was attacking you and stops (assuming you have not killed it) kill it faster Archers often have charge up attacks and some staff wielding deadra have flame attacks that are almost insta kills on you.
    4. For the annoying Argonian on the poison level, Save your ultimate until after the tenders come out, and then kill one of them to send him into a rage and then while shielded by the second tender drop your ultimate. I can generally get him to around 30% and from there it is easy to kill him, and you just have to watch out for the poison bombs.

    One thing I'd like to add to this is to watch your health on the final boss when you have to destroy the crystals in the final arena. I once had a failed no death run because of a combination of fall damage and landing on a blue ghost.

    I had the same thing happen.
  • itzatecah
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    Congratulations!

    Brings back good and very painful memories from 5 years ago, my first vet clear took me a week or so and about 500k gold. I had no idea about weaving, my sets were bad, was stage 4 vampire and had bad connection, latency 300-500ms all the time. Once i had farmed Vicious Ophidian and learned to do proper damage Voriak Solkyn finally died...and oh the feeling!!

    Next in line was to farm the bow but i ended up getting Flawless Conqueror before it dropped and i haven't taken title off since. I might have screamed a little bit when i got my perfect run done.

    vMA has been imo one of the best challenging things in gaming i've ever experienced, and that place made completely different ESO player than what i was before it. Too bad Vateshran didn't give same type of euphoria. vMA will have a special place in my heart as long as live
  • Tornaad
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    Congratulations!

    Brings back good and very painful memories from 5 years ago, my first vet clear took me a week or so and about 500k gold. I had no idea about weaving, my sets were bad, was stage 4 vampire and had bad connection, latency 300-500ms all the time. Once i had farmed Vicious Ophidian and learned to do proper damage Voriak Solkyn finally died...and oh the feeling!!

    Next in line was to farm the bow but i ended up getting Flawless Conqueror before it dropped and i haven't taken title off since. I might have screamed a little bit when i got my perfect run done.

    vMA has been imo one of the best challenging things in gaming i've ever experienced, and that place made completely different ESO player than what i was before it. Too bad Vateshran didn't give same type of euphoria. vMA will have a special place in my heart as long as live

    Thank you.

    I don't think my clear cost any gold. The only potions I ever use are the ones that drop from the daily login rewards and I have several thousand of them built up because I rarely use them. I am trying to get better at that, but at the same time, I am not really concerned. I have also collected an incredible amount of upgrade mats so I was able to upgrade all of my equipment to gold without the need to purchase anything. And I have been slowly collecting all of the gear (I still have a ways to go on that one) but thanks to transmute stones (which I almost have maxed out again) and my built up crafting materials, I got my build set up basically free.

    I'm sure my bad habit with potions makes things harder on be, but I don't mind.
    Edited by Tornaad on January 25, 2023 2:10PM
  • blueprudence
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    What gear did you use on your magsorc please Tournaad? You're brave tale is inspiring me to try on my HA magsorc 😁
  • blueprudence
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    Eurgh, your, not you're.
  • Crismac
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    Congrats sir well done!
  • Tornaad
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    What gear did you use on your magsorc please Tournaad? You're brave tale is inspiring me to try on my HA magsorc 😁
    I used a build by @HackTheMinotaur the only thing I modified was to replace one of the skills that adds a bit of damage with the twilight matriarch.
    https://www.hacktheminotaur.com/builds/eso-magicka-sorcerer-solo-group-pve-build-shock-master
    EDIT:
    I changed out elemental susceptibility for the twilight matriarch, and used the login tri Stat food for the food buff. When I needed an extra healing boost, I used a potion.
    Edited by Tornaad on January 25, 2023 4:24PM
  • blueprudence
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    Thank you so much for your response & extra information Tornaad. I'm currently using Xynode's updated EasySorc but will give HTM's version with your adaptation a test too.

    Well done again on your determination & much enjoyment for your new odyssey. 👏
  • Tornaad
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    Thank you so much for your response & extra information Tornaad. I'm currently using Xynode's updated EasySorc but will give HTM's version with your adaptation a test too.

    Well done again on your determination & much enjoyment for your new odyssey. 👏

    Good luck!
  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    Tornaad wrote: »
    What gear did you use on your magsorc please Tournaad? You're brave tale is inspiring me to try on my HA magsorc 😁
    I used a build by @HackTheMinotaur the only thing I modified was to replace one of the skills that adds a bit of damage with the twilight matriarch.
    https://www.hacktheminotaur.com/builds/eso-magicka-sorcerer-solo-group-pve-build-shock-master
    EDIT:
    I changed out elemental susceptibility for the twilight matriarch, and used the login tri Stat food for the food buff. When I needed an extra healing boost, I used a potion.

    Yeah, in the arena specifically, that is probably a good change for most of the fights, especially when learning. An extra pet means you have a burst heal, passive DPS, and something to divert damage (enemies will target your pet instead of you). The Major Breach from ES, just isn't all that necessary in the arena, especially considering a lot of enemies dont have the standard 18.2k of resistances. ES is probably better for some bosses, but an oh crap heal and some passive DPS is probably better for most people going for their first clear or first flawless.

    If you really have no other buffs (i.e. Playing solo), and you are fighting a standard boss with 18.2k of resist, a source of major breach will be more raw damage than what the twilight matriach does, just FYI.

    If running Oakensoul, Tristat food is what you want to run in the arena. You could probably get buy with trash magic pots, but why not be sure your health and stam get topped off every 45 seconds. Oakensoul makes running expensive spell power pots a redundant waste
  • boi_anachronism_
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    Almost had it a few days ago on a random run and then I had freeze frame right as I was running into the shield on 7... Unfroze dead... In the shield.
  • Tornaad
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    Almost had it a few days ago on a random run and then I had freeze frame right as I was running into the shield on 7... Unfroze dead... In the shield.

    That sucks.
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