I don't think changing the core functionality of the game this late into its life is good for the game. Just like recent patches. We need to alter the game in different ways AROUND the core functionality of the game. Healing is absolutely way overtuned and seriously needs a huge tone down. Blocking needs addressing, roll dodge needs addressing. So many things, however I'd never change its core functionality. Just nerf it's power to balance it.

The real issue is crosshealing. Too much of that and too easy to use.

I would disagree ESO is primarily a solo experience. Cyrodiil, battlegrounds, dungeons, and trials are all clearly designed with groups in mind. While there are tons of things to do solo, I think it's wrong to say any MMO is meant to be solo focused. And I think the 4 things I listed are the "meat and potatoes" of what there is to do and accomplish.

In PvE, even though plenty of people 4-dps or even solo dungeons, the 3 roles enforced by the que system make the intended design obvious.

In PvP, where it is a competition and better players enjoy playing solo for the challenge of it, it still seems to me that grouping is intended. You literally can't play battlegrounds without grouping. There is a solo que... But then it groups you, lol. No choice. And in cyrodiil, even though I have captured castles solo before, I think the time it takes to do so (if not the difficulty,) makes it clear that this also is a group activity by design.

Now if that can be accepted as intended design then we have to wonder why the game operates differently now. Why are some solo players so good at Xing? Why do some dungeon teams not need healers? While there are perhaps many reasons for this-- healing scaling off damage stats is certainly a big contributor. And yes, skill level is also a big contributor.

The problem I think some of us want to solve is where these skilled people-- who solo dungeons and kill 3 people at once-- can't kill each other. It doesn't matter how good player A is. Even if he is slightly more skilled and better built than player B, player B will not die if he has a decent build keeps his buffs up and has a solid defensive rotation.

Splitting the stats needed for healing and damage (which are opposite things might I remind you,) would solve this. And I'm aware that this would make Xing harder, but not as much harder as some people may think.

First off let's all agree that you're not going to X a ballgroup or even a smaller comp group. So the fact that they will have an advantage is kinda inconsequential-- it's the exact same advantage they already have. You'd still be able to X disorganized and/or worse players as they were subjected to the same change and also now either do less damage or less healing. And for small scale or battlegrounds having at least 1 healer instead of 4 tanky dps would become more important. Healers need to become more important in pvp and PvE.

Build diversity will soar.

Now I don't know the exact formula for damage/healing, so please bare with me on this next part as the numbers may be wrong but it won't effect my point. I don't want them to be completely detached from each other just separated slightly more. If damage done is 1 for 1 with spell damage and 10 for 1 with max stat (and healing is the same,) then I would like healing to become something more like .5 to 1 from damage and 20 to 1 for max stat.

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…If we don't do this, then we should disband roles entirely for dungeons (sarcastic, to make a point).

I know you’re being sarcastic but you might be onto something… a great example of where this is done very well is if you look at the raiding scene of Destiny, you can build to help in healing or shielding within that game slightly, but each player shares the risk as there are no tanks, I think a PvE where each player focuses on finding their balance of healing, damage, and mitigation to optimize their character, would be incredibly interesting, instead of the traditional roles being locked-in.

Very unlikely change, but one I would definitely be willing to try.

Disbanding roles is a bad idea because without someone taunting it's the highest damage that gets aggro. Meaning the very least durable becomes the tank.

Nor do you want 4 specs showing up capable of tanking because without any rubric for group building nobody knew what'd be asked of them.

Pugging anything beyond soloable content would be an exercise in futility.