technically speaking each card is only activating once

if you have 4 different cards that say have the effect to draw, your processing each effect separately

if you say limit the card draw effect to only happen once per turn, you would literally destroy the entire point of the crow deck

it just sounds to me that you basically want the entire crow deck removed (as this is the only one that that really can create huge card draw combos)

the player has all the cards in their deck

they dont even have to "generate" cards like some of the druid ones do

if you had a deck full of pilfers that do nothing but let you draw cards, your not creating any new cards just drawing through your deck (you will eventually run out of a deck as everything goes into your "discard" pile instead of the cooldown, when you end your turn all of those are put in the cooldown, and then it would reshuffle your deck)

so a long crow combo isnt "generating" cards, the player would have had to buy them from the tavern

i think if you picture, 2 pilfer cards, with base of draw 1 and then a combo 2 of draw 1, you play card 1 and draw 1, you play card 2 and draw 1, and then it draws 2 more for the combo effect of both cards, but your still just drawing existing cards from your own deck, not generating anything new

crows only becomes a problem against you when the opponent starts amassing the crow cards to be able to continue drawing (as some of the other crow cards also generate coin/power in addition to drawing cards)

using rahjin bewilders or other rahjin/crow cards that force the opponent to discard cards is a good way to counter a crow combo

even if their deck is reshuffled, it does not shuffle in the cards that are in the "used/discard" pile (deck shuffling only uses what is in the cooldown pile, not the used/discard pile)

so even if they had all of the crow cards, they couldnt use more than 4 pilfers (for example) in a single turn as that is the max that exists with the crow deck

they still would eventually run out of cards in their deck and be forced to end their turn

now the amount of power/coin that was generated from being able to draw could potentially be huge

ive had those kind of crow combos where ive drawn my deck, shuffled in my cooldown, kept drawing, and eventually ran out of cards to play, or coin to buy more from the tavern

so with the way the game works, the same exact card can never be played more than once per turn (so if you played 1 pilfer, that pilfer will basically not be useable again until it gets in your cooldown pile to be reshuffled)

pilfer is the best example because it allows you to draw up to 2 cards for 1 play, as long as you have played another crow card in that same turn

when you add up all the crow cards that can draw, thats like 2/3 of the entire deck (including the contract cards that allow you to draw more too)

you can only play a card once per turn if you have two of the same cards then yes you play them twice if it happens so. but you do need to have two cards that are the same and you play each only once

i dunno man lol maybe they high lol

SilverBride wrote: »

Then how do players end up with so many combos and card draws? It would not be possible to get 150 combos in one hand unless the deck was shuffling and drawing the same cards that then made another combo the next time it was played.

Because they build out their decks really well.

But also, as was mentioned in that other thread, combos often happen passively. And especially with the Druid deck, you get a ton of combos.

There are cards in the druid deck that have 5 combo actions and cards in Rajihn that have more than that. So, just playing 2-3 of them already generates you 15+ combos. Druid deck plays fast with combos, including passive ones, like gaining gold/power when things are played by your opponent or yourself or discarded.

A good example is the druid card that gives you gold when something goes into your discard. Every time you buy a card, something goes into your discard and you activate the combo. Have more than one of these, or buy cheap cards, you activate combos.

Well watching an opponent draw card after card with the constant "bump" sound is the biggest thing that drove me away from playing other players. A few combos is fine but I will not sit and watch this go on for an entire 90 second turn. This is why I only play NPCs now.

Stinkyremy wrote: »

Only thing that needs to be changed is when a new card is drawn, we as the player should still be able to move and play other cards because the massive combos and with the timer, you don't have enough time to play everything.
Too many times with crow and druid agents I have been running out of time because of massive combo pops.
It's unfair because I am only limited by the in game cooldown/animation of the cards proccing, not by my lack or ability to play fast.

Absolutely. Every card draw or purchase, should add like 2 seconds to the timer. I've timed out of winning rounds due to the timer.

one of the reasons why i dont participate in the queue is because of the turn time limit lol, generally speaking i dont ever need that much time to take my turn, but the fact that its there is annoying, i hate being timed on things

im going to have to at some point just to finish the tribute achievements, because i have basically all of the tribute stuff done now except for 3 RNG clues, and the pvp achievements

I just don't play other players any more and won't unless some of this is fixed. It just isn't enjoyable any more the way things are.