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Another event and another Style with atrocious drop rate.

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Then you put "Once a day" cooldowns on them to make it even worse. We have been here before, several times in a row now when it comes to events.

It's not funny, ZOS.

You are not making us play more or enjoy the event, quite the opposite. Because what is the point when no matter how many quests we do a day the darn style pages won't drop anyway? Might as well skip frustration and save time to do other things by not bothering.
You say you're listening to us, yet it doesn't appear that way when we cry out in frustration over even simple and small things you could do something about.

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Edited by NotaDaedraWorshipper on November 18, 2022 11:50PM
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  • freespirit
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    The funny thing is the returning Sovngarde style page has no cooldown, yesterday I got EIGHT of them but just one of tne new ones ofc.

    Today I did a lot less and still recieved two, however I did also get a second page of the new one as well. 😀
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  • Treselegant
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    I've had to use my tickets for most of the outfit styles from the events this year. Luckily I had no interest in this years costume so I had the tickets to spare. Drop rate does appear to be annoyingly low.
    You say you're listening to us, yet it doesn't appear that way when we cry out in frustration over even simple and small things you could do something about.
    It's just yet another thing to add to a long list of small adjustments that could be made for a happier playerbase that probably will never get addressed.
  • James-Wayne
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    Been like this for years.

    I don't understand the need to lock content behind hard RNG grind walls, seems a waste for the development team when the majority of users will never ever see it let alone use it.

    Let it drop for everyone so everyone comes back to the next event.

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  • tonyblack
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    During witcher festival i destroyed all style pages, but new ones and dremora motifs from arena (for some reason those still cost something). I think it’s better when event drops have some value, getting style with the value of 100 gold is depressing as well and make me skip events entirely as I don’t feel it’s worth my time to participate. Having some rarity for new style pages is a good thing.
  • SeaGtGruff
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    I haven't gotten any of the new pages from the golden boxes yet, but I've gotten two-- one on each of the servers I play on-- from purple boxes obtained from harvesting resource nodes. Yes, they can drop from the purple boxes. So the best way to get them should be to harvest resource nodes or anything else that can drop a purple box. Note that there are only six pages of the new style, and the event runs for 13 days, so you should have plenty of time to farm, trade, or buy all six pages.
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  • NotaDaedraWorshipper
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    tonyblack wrote: »
    During witcher festival i destroyed all style pages, but new ones and dremora motifs from arena (for some reason those still cost something). I think it’s better when event drops have some value, getting style with the value of 100 gold is depressing as well and make me skip events entirely as I don’t feel it’s worth my time to participate. Having some rarity for new style pages is a good thing.

    Did you also destroy the new style pages which dropped horribly? There are several spots to be found inbetween drops in scores to the level they are worthless and you may not see a page despite doing dailies and farming boxes on 8 characters.
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  • NotaDaedraWorshipper
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    I mean, to have style pages of worth to sell you first need to actually be able to obtain them.
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  • tonyblack
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    tonyblack wrote: »
    During witcher festival i destroyed all style pages, but new ones and dremora motifs from arena (for some reason those still cost something). I think it’s better when event drops have some value, getting style with the value of 100 gold is depressing as well and make me skip events entirely as I don’t feel it’s worth my time to participate. Having some rarity for new style pages is a good thing.

    Did you also destroy the new style pages which dropped horribly? There are several spots to be found inbetween drops in scores to the level they are worthless and you may not see a page despite doing dailies and farming boxes on 8 characters.

    I didn’t, as I specified in my original comment. Those I didn’t know was learned for myself, duplicates sold for nice extra profit. They aren’t even that rare or expensive. By the end of event their prices dropping to the range of 15-40k on pc eu, which is not a lot tbh. If they’d cost 200-300k than it I would agree they are rare.
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    The Saarthal pages seem to drop pretty easily, with a once-per-reset cooldown (not 20 hours). I personally kind of like it this way because it means you don't have to grind as much to get a page each day and eventually complete the set.
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  • SonOfSoma
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    Thankfully the low drop rate doesn't bother me as yet again another awful style that I have no desire to obtain.
    For the love of God!... enough of these aesthetically dire styles.
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    Whoops, misread post.

    Stay safe :)
    Edited by Hotdog_23 on November 19, 2022 6:22AM
  • Dojohoda
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    I've received the new style. It was the same one, the legs. I got legs yesterday and I got legs today.
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    Day 1: dropped the shoulder
    Day 2: dropped the shoes (from a purple box).
    Day 3: dropped breeches.

    This one did the bare minimum for day 1, and for day 2 used all the level 50 alts to grind for the weekly endeavour by taking the WB quests in Western Skyrim and the Reach. About 8 or 9 WB quests for day two.

    Experience has been that for the initial 2-3 days, RNG will be fairly decent, and then it declines.

    Actually quite excited about Saarthal Scholar. Some players, including Sammy, have been asking for plain outfit styles and ZOS seems to have listened. Moreover, there are no hip flaps. Hope to get them all, but Sammy is managing his expectations.

    Edit: corrected the drops.
    Edited by SammyKhajit on November 20, 2022 6:45AM
  • Kallykat
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    All I'm doing is the minimum two quests for the tickets. I got the breeches yesterday and the jerkin today. I think the drop rate is fine.
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    I'm fine with one a day. As long as it is actually one a day. Better than flooding our inventory with spider parts style pages. Maybe they should adjust it to two a day to make up for unfortunate duplicate drops or people who don't have time to log in everyday.

    I'm looking forward to this style, as one of the rare styles which does not feature fur/bones/teeth/misc animal parts/enormous metal plates.
    Edited by BretonMage on November 19, 2022 1:39PM
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    tonyblack wrote: »
    During witcher festival i destroyed all style pages, but new ones and dremora motifs from arena (for some reason those still cost something). I think it’s better when event drops have some value, getting style with the value of 100 gold is depressing as well and make me skip events entirely as I don’t feel it’s worth my time to participate. Having some rarity for new style pages is a good thing.


    Selling value should have nothing to do with the drop rate decisions around events. Events are for everyone, not a new profit source for Traders.


    Personally, I've only gotten like 5 boxes so far (2 gold, 3 purple). I got the chest & leg motifs out of the two gold boxes. (and none of the old ones)
    Edited by Kiralyn2000 on November 19, 2022 2:03PM
  • theskymoves
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    I've opened about 100 purple boxes, in addition to the daily golds, and haven't gotten any of the new style pages, though I did get a few of the old Sovngarde pages. This is typical for my account, which seemingly has the worst RNG imaginable.

    I'll get a couple of the pages with tickets, and buy the rest from guild traders.
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    Literally have not gotten a single new style page yet after two days
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  • tonyblack
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    tonyblack wrote: »
    During witcher festival i destroyed all style pages, but new ones and dremora motifs from arena (for some reason those still cost something). I think it’s better when event drops have some value, getting style with the value of 100 gold is depressing as well and make me skip events entirely as I don’t feel it’s worth my time to participate. Having some rarity for new style pages is a good thing.


    Selling value should have nothing to do with the drop rate decisions around events. Events are for everyone, not a new profit source for Traders.


    Personally, I've only gotten like 5 boxes so far (2 gold, 3 purple). I got the chest & leg motifs out of the two gold boxes. (and none of the old ones)

    Trading is important part of the game and as harsh it may sound if everyone is winner then in reality no one really is. In that case it would mean if everyone guaranteed to get all the pages, they’d overflow the market, making any duplicate nothing more than inventory clog. Why participate in event at all if all the rewards are useless junk which could be bought dirt cheap while doing basically anything else?
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    Not really "once a day" as I got the boots, pants and hat today from purple event boxes, admitally it took about 150 of the damn things, but I got them none the less
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    tonyblack wrote: »
    Trading is important part of the game and as harsh it may sound if everyone is winner then in reality no one really is. In that case it would mean if everyone guaranteed to get all the pages,

    There's a range between "just hand them to everyone" and "keep it rare so the Trade Guys can gouge away".
    they’d overflow the market, making any duplicate nothing more than inventory clog.

    And that's my point - "but they'll overflow the market" shouldn't be a factor in deciding the drop rate of event items. How much "event" participants have to do in order to get the event items, is.
    Why participate in event at all if all the rewards are useless junk which could be bought dirt cheap while doing basically anything else?

    ...why would I ever buy anything, if I can get it from gameplay? "I can get this cheap off the market" isn't part of my decision making process.



    In the end, traders have plenty of things to trade. They don't need events held hostage to their desire to have guaranteed profit "just handed to them". /shrug

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  • ProudMary
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    Dojohoda wrote: »
    I've received the new style. It was the same one, the legs. I got legs yesterday and I got legs today.

    Same for me, two Breaches.
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    tonyblack wrote: »
    Trading is important part of the game and as harsh it may sound if everyone is winner then in reality no one really is.
    Didn't know ESO was a competitive trading sim. Saying "no one is a winner" regarding drops is like saying that if everyone is well fed then everyone is hungry. It's not harsh, it's nonsense.

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    There's a range between "just hand them to everyone" and "keep it rare so the Trade Guys can gouge away".

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    Got my third Sarthal style page today, from the first box I opened (purple). Duplicate Chest page. Deleted it.

    Exactly. I like trading too, but I would prefer if a style page was guaranteed in one of the first boxes, instead of a lot of people not getting one at all.

    Although I don't get why you would delete duplicates. Either sell or trade for one you don't have.
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    Got 5 yesterday so I don't think theres a cooldown
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    Then you put "Once a day" cooldowns on them to make it even worse. We have been here before, several times in a row now when it comes to events.

    It's not funny, ZOS.

    You are not making us play more or enjoy the event, quite the opposite. Because what is the point when no matter how many quests we do a day the darn style pages won't drop anyway? Might as well skip frustration and save time to do other things by not bothering.
    You say you're listening to us, yet it doesn't appear that way when we cry out in frustration over even simple and small things you could do something about.

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    ZOS sells tickets.

    As a result, it is in their interest to make it so that it isn't too easy to get event items so that people will buy tickets.

    Additionally, part of what makes cosmetic items appealing is rarity and perception. If it's easy to get the item it will put a damper on the appeal.

    Further, not everyone likes every cosmetic item. If it's rare, you can get $ from selling the event items you get which you can use to get something you want. If it's common if you don't like the item you don't have much of a reason to bother with the event.

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    FluffWit wrote: »
    Got 5 yesterday so I don't think theres a cooldown

    Well that's a comfort at least. It was the new ones and not mixed with the old Sovngarde? @FluffWit
    Edited by NotaDaedraWorshipper on November 19, 2022 8:36PM
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  • Kiralyn2000
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    Although I don't get why you would delete duplicates. Either sell or trade for one you don't have.

    I've never sold or traded anything in ESO. I vendor things to NPCs, and things I can't vendor I just delete.
    (which, yes, indirectly benefits the traders since it helps keep the supply of extras down. Ah, well.)
  • The_Boggart
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    Why can't we sell duplicate back to the impresario for Crowns??
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    Why can't we sell duplicate back to the impresario for Crowns??

    ...why would an in-game dropped item give you Crowns?
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