Elsonso wrote: »

me_ming wrote: »

Honestly, I thought there's already a class change token by now... I'm shocked there isn't. But for free??? Hmmmm... They did give a Race Change before sooooo... I'm 50-50 on that.

Apparently, class change breaks core parts of the game and race change does not. It will just take them longer to monetize that part of the game.

To the people who are answering yes, what do you base this on? What makes someone think Zenimax will be offering this soon?

Some players prefer only playing one character and not playing again through content. Those players may have interest in a class change token. Not offering this is a financial loss. I know many other games that offer a class, race, etc.. change token only to profit each time a player makes said changes.

Amottica wrote: »

Elsonso wrote: »

me_ming wrote: »

Honestly, I thought there's already a class change token by now... I'm shocked there isn't. But for free??? Hmmmm... They did give a Race Change before sooooo... I'm 50-50 on that.

Apparently, class change breaks core parts of the game and race change does not. It will just take them longer to monetize that part of the game.

To the people who are answering yes, what do you base this on? What makes someone think Zenimax will be offering this soon?

Lots of reasons. I think that ZOS is putting more priority on "Player requested QoL" stuff, and class change would be a major feather in that cap. This is a player-oriented game, not a character-oriented game and class change fits with that nicely. They have talked about being able to play the whole game, and this would allow players to experience end-game without creating a new character. If people are not creating new characters just to have a new class, it will reduce the load on the database that stores characters, which will probably impact performance over time. I really hate the idea of class change tokens, and ZOS seems attracted to ideas I don't like, so that almost seals the deal.

Oh... and they can sell them for Crowns. I probably should have led with that.

MEBengalsFan2001 wrote: »

Some players prefer only playing one character and not playing again through content. Those players may have interest in a class change token. Not offering this is a financial loss. I know many other games that offer a class, race, etc.. change token only to profit each time a player makes said changes.

I don't know of one game that allows a class change. Most games I still dabble in or have played in the past only allowed race / gender changes or alliance if game has that.
And I'm not counting FFXIV only because it's unique in how it handles it.

oooh god, what I would give for class change tokens! Right now, I can't be bothered to play other classes from level 1 and to level up everything again, so I play other games instead, and just do a few dailies on my main.

Would love so much if ZoS would implement them, it would revive my interest in ESO so much for me.

Well as for the poll, I'm not 100% it will never happen, but I also don't think it will happen anytime soon.

ghastley wrote: »

I have never understood why people are so attached to a character that they want to change EVERYTHING about them.

I find that people who say "I have never understood" mean to imply that some notion lies beyond comprehension, but its often more of an indictment on that person's capacity or wish to understand.

It also always surprises me the vitriol with which some people stand against the notion. I get that some people are opposed, don't see the need, or don't want it personally, but you get the impression reading some of these posts that some here are so enraged by the idea that they want to flip their tables.

I don't think it will impact meta- people who feel the need to go FOTM just reroll and speed level anyway. It would be a convenience only.

I have one character I made back in 2014 when you couldn't play with people of different factions, and I'd met a good bunch of people who were all EP. I made her a sorcerer, because that was the class I was most competent on, just like my main- I wanted to be useful to my new friends.

Fast forward 8 years. 1 Tamriel. 2 new classes. Any faction, any time. As a sorcerer, she's completely redundant now. She's got the perfect name, the perfect backstory, looks EXACTLY the way I wanted her to look (no small feat, anyone who cares will testify), master crafter, everything researched, mount training, but most importantly to people like me, 8+ years of continuity, existence and meaning, but is pointless other than for writs.

Obviously, if you don't value those things, you wont see the need for a class change token for other people like you. But plenty of people DO feel like this, and they aren't inherently wrong to do so. That they do is reflected in race change and other QOL's they've added over the years- on some level, ZOS recognises its a factor- things that people were just as vehemently against and said would never happen, btw.

So, no- I'm not opposed to it, and adding it would help me, and a lot of people out. Yes there are other alternatives, but they aren't completely satisfying. I'd be surprised if they were coming soon, and sure, it may never happen. But never is a very long time not to understand something that's not that hard to see.

I doubt it; it's easy money, yet they still have not implemented this feature.

Several issues come to mind, like, would they reset progress on your previous class? If it keeps the progress, that would be a lot of data to store (I know it might just be like as small as bytes worth of data, but multiply that by the massive amount of characters on the servers...) if someone decided to swap around a lot of characters or just have 1 that they try a bunch of different classes on. If they reset progress each time to not have to store that data, I feel like a lot of people would skip over any warning text and then get very upset when they may want to switch back eventually and find their prior progress gone.

I would never class swap my main, but if given the option, it would be something I might do it on one of my alts. But honestly, the grind to lv50 isn't that hard, since you get to keep your CP. I would be more interested in a way to save our character customizations; that way, I could just remake a character but swap their class; I have done that in other games where I had to manually remember values lol

Also, I would be very afraid of what would break after making such a big change to whatever structure they would have to mess with to make it happen.

And they shouldn't. Why do you need one? Wait for a double xp weekend and you can easily level a handful a characters to 50 and boom you have the class you want.

If it makes money, they will. ZOS is s business after all.

markulrich1966 wrote: »

no, and I think it is more a juristic issue than a technical one.

I guess they want to avoid situations like these:

"I bought a class change token in june to get the class Necro-Dancer, but in July you nerfed the damage from the skill "break dance" from 500 to 125. The class is useless now for me, so I want the money back for the token".

You cannot nerf skyshards or riding trainings, and racechanges are usually not as devastating as class changes, so those are available.

But then they’ll make more money this way: buff a class, players buy class token; said class nerfed, players complain and buy another token. Rinse and repeat 🔁