Siege doesn't despawn after you place it in Cyrodiil (All Campaigns)

FolksySpade · November 2022

Just as the title details, after you place ANY siege and it decays it'll remain on the map and take up a siege placement for the keep. You can't even place siege around the ghosted ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JySofS-tBJQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJlAEV7xTbc

ZOS_GinaBruno · November 2022

Thanks! We're aware of this issue and are looking to see if we're able to hotfix it. More details to come.

FolksySpade · November 2022

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks! We're aware of this issue and are looking to see if we're able to hotfix it. More details to come.

Thanks for the reply, hopefully it'll comfort some of the zone chat freaking out about it. I'll let them know

LordSkruff · November 2022

https://youtu.be/UCKCjAgxhT4

https://youtu.be/0w8CgIXQ0XQ

https://youtu.be/OuDBam31UdQ

nice.

Alienoutlaw · November 2022

there are over 200 siege weapons deployed in AD homebases and keeps plus keeps that are now DC or EP, GH is unplayable as it currently stands. any update on a fix?

FolksySpade · November 2022

You can always pvp in IC

React · November 2022

PC NA GH has thousands of siege weapons deployed on the map. There are trails of siege weapons going from keep to keep. No keep can be taken (until volendrung spawns).

I do also expect the performance is going to take a severe dive as soon as people start logging in.

This needs to be fixed urgently.

Gizit · November 2022

React wrote: »

PC NA GH has thousands of siege weapons deployed on the map. There are trails of siege weapons going from keep to keep. No keep can be taken (until volendrung spawns).

I do also expect the performance is going to take a severe dive as soon as people start logging in.

This needs to be fixed urgently.

GROUND OILS RETURN TRIUMPHANT!!!!

EmEm_Oh · November 2022

And here I was congratulating my faction on finally sieging like they were supposed to....

Then I find this page.

Destai · November 2022

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks! We're aware of this issue and are looking to see if we're able to hotfix it. More details to come.

Can we get some insight into how a PVE release impacted PVP content? Just curious.

ZOS_GinaBruno · November 2022

Just to update, we're currently testing a hotfix that we hope to roll out within the next 24 hours. We'll keep you all posted on the status.

FolksySpade · November 2022

Thanks again Gina

SimonThesis · November 2022

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Just to update, we're currently testing a hotfix that we hope to roll out within the next 24 hours. We'll keep you all posted on the status.

@ZOS_GinaBruno Why wasn't this bug caught and resolved in the PTS? Setting down siege beforehand seems easily testable.

I think the players deserve to know why there seems to be no internal testing before releases.

Aces-High-82 · November 2022

Destai wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks! We're aware of this issue and are looking to see if we're able to hotfix it. More details to come.

Can we get some insight into how a PVE release impacted PVP content? Just curious.

They added the armory stations to cyro homebases XD

fripplethorn · November 2022

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Just to update, we're currently testing a hotfix that we hope to roll out within the next 24 hours. We'll keep you all posted on the status.

I'm assuming you will be rolling back everything that has happened in Cyrodiil between the failed rollout of the patch and the hotfix? Very unsurprisingly, a group of people have decided to exploit the bug rather than wait for a fix. The payoff for "winning" the campaign is lackluster enough without rewarding this all-too-predictable behavior.

ZOS_GinaBruno · November 2022

Just posted a thread with details (linked below) but we will be applying a hotfix for this issue during tomorrow morning's maintenance. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/620885/

Asmelia · November 2022

Asmelia · November 2022

want to fix score as well its unnacceptable imagine if a ad swapped on alt account and put all those ep and dc sieges at over siege limit and now ad to avoid that glitch siege with ram that is 1 siege and bring keep and outpost and enemy factions cant counter sieges, defend or attack because over siege limit. This is unacceptable the score need to be rollback as well @ZOS_GinaBruno because you see right now pc na grey host ad have 232 points and it keep running each eval since they are only ones that can attack and grab stuff miraculously. People arent stupid there is no way there is only 1 faction that avoid that glitch... there is something under the rock.....fix it legitimatly.

SimonThesis · November 2022

An AD guild was on and they had to siege empty keeps from resources and put up one ram because very little room to siege. Not ADs fault no one was on, no different than DC day capping while everyones at work

blktauna · November 2022

Best wishes to the folks working on the hotfix, may it go smoothly.

Asmelia · November 2022

So miraculously ad think right and decide to put 1 ram since they know it will work for all keep they gonna take and knew also no enemies was able to defend. Think further than that there is something under the rock. It's not ok to exploit a glitch for advantage when enemy cant defend or take stuff its unfair and this should be corrected to be fairplay for EVERYONE, every faction not 1 faction win against 2 factions from a glitch and keep the points from it it's unfair.

SimonThesis · November 2022

By that logic, every keep and every resource everyones taken since the bug is an exploit?

If a guild wants to siege a keep and theres only one spot left the smartest thing to do is put down a ram, not rocket science not some conspiracy. DC could still have been there and killed them without siege.

If thats the case then points DC makes at 2pm est shouldn't count either, everyones at work its not fair, they take the whole map at that time too.

TechMaybeHic · November 2022

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Just posted a thread with details (linked below) but we will be applying a hotfix for this issue during tomorrow morning's maintenance. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/620885/

How about a rollback on the score or even Cyrodiil I'm general? This has been abused

Asmelia · November 2022

its on zenimax hand now, i just said my point about whats happening right now and what i see. Zenimax will do what they think right so we will see the fix tomorrow

TechMaybeHic · November 2022

SimonThesis wrote: »

By that logic, every keep and every resource everyones taken since the bug is an exploit?

If a guild wants to siege a keep and theres only one spot left the smartest thing to do is put down a ram, not rocket science not some conspiracy. DC could still have been there and killed them without siege.

If thats the case then points DC makes at 2pm est shouldn't count either, everyones at work its not fair, they take the whole map at that time too.

Difference is game working as intended vs not working as intended. That's the definition of exploit. [snip]

[Edit for Bait.]

SimonThesis · November 2022

I wasn't even on at the time. Calling for other people you disagree with to be banned, should be a bannable offense.

TechMaybeHic · November 2022

SimonThesis wrote: »

I wasn't even on at the time. Calling for other people you disagree with to be banned, should be a bannable offense.

Not calling for people I disagree with being banned. I'm calling for exploiters getting banned. I apologize for directing at you but you defending it looked like guilt. I recommend not partaking as they did ban groups of players for keep trading during double AP once; and this is far more blatant

SimonThesis · November 2022

Still doesnt make it okay. Partake in what pvp? Are they gonna mass ban every person in every campaign that takes a resource or keep? Where would they draw the line? Are they going to ban hundreds of people? People turning cyro into minecraft anyway

Will DC get banned for taking keeps too?

TechMaybeHic · November 2022

SimonThesis wrote: »

Still doesnt make it okay. Partake in what pvp? Are they gonna mass ban every person in every campaign that takes a resource or keep? Where would they draw the line? Are they going to ban hundreds of people? People turning cyro into minecraft anyway

I'm sure they can track who loaded up siege conveniently on EP and DC sides in order to then move freely on the offense with 0 counter. If not, it's probably enough that players know that their keeps can not be attacked and capturing all the enemy scrolls. I suppose it's just coincidence only one side wasnt impeded? I'd be ok with banning each and every one who sieged

TechMaybeHic · November 2022

SimonThesis wrote: »

An AD guild was on and they had to siege empty keeps from resources and put up one ram because very little room to siege. Not ADs fault no one was on, no different than DC day capping while everyones at work

This quote here actually hints for them to look for a guild on at that time that could tell something was wrong but chose to find a way to siege keeps down anyway

Asmelia · November 2022

look at this :

6:23pm est gray host pc na

2 hours later 8:23pm est gray host pc na