Ok explain the FPS problem, Zos...

C0RTEX4 · October 2022

When are you going to do what you are supposed to do and fix the game... It's been nearly 9 years now...

TybaltKaine · October 2022

Maybe it has to do with all the extra stuff on your screen? Not trying to troll or anything, but I don't think the game is expecting to have that stuff going on in addition to everything else that exists by default.

I played on console for almost 2 years and rarely ever had FPS dips that I have had since being on PC. I changed some settings from ultra or high to medium and dumped a bunch of "suggested" addons and presto, back to my console experience.

Just my experience, yours will vary.

C0RTEX4 · October 2022

If you read the screen, it clearly shows 90 FPS, furthermore If you played with a RTX 2080 you would know that it's a server problem...

Even removing all addons will make no difference, it hasn't for nearly 9 years, and it won't now, as for console, there are less players on that than there are on PC for starters, second explain how this FPS issue only did this when the bars were switched? Yeah, I don't think this is a PC issue...

TybaltKaine · October 2022

I don't see how player count bears any relevance to FPS loss in a 4 person dungeon?

If this is supposed to be a video, it isn't so I can't see any fps loss in real time when you switch bars, as you attest.

Tandor · October 2022

What FPS are you expecting in a scenario like that, and how do you expect anyone to comment on action-based dips in FPS based on a static screenshot? How are we even supposed to read the FPS from a fixed screenshot that size? Sorry, but your post needs a lot more information/explanation. Which PC server are you on, the one that has already been upgraded or the one that is due an upgrade in March?

Sarannah · October 2022

FPS is always a GPU performance issue, lower your settings. In this case skill particles, field of view, or any settings possibly affecting the environment(lava). (looking at the screenshot I mostly suspect your skill particles setting is to blame/too high)

It is easy to blame ZOS or the servers, but this is not a server issue. FPS is always about how fast your GPU can render the images for you to see. If your FPS sometimes drops or you experience any tearing or (small) image freezings/slows when looking around very fast under any conditions(especially when this happens under normal load), this is a sign your settings are too high(better to test this during heavy load). Adjust them accordingly.

Goodluck!

PS: 90 FPS is still perfectly fine! My monitor has a max of 60 hz. (Playing 4k, 60 fps)
PPS: Post your specs and settings so other players can help you out with your settings.
PPPS: Pro TIP: Most GPU's(atleast Nvidia) only use their fans above 60C degrees, so if you want to save on electricity you can place your game settings for the GPU to stay below that temperature. (This also ensures that even in situations where the GPU comes under very heavy load, the GPU won't have a reason to lower your FPS)

UnabashedlyHonest · October 2022

Sarannah wrote: »

FPS is always a GPU performance issue, lower your settings. In this case skill particles, field of view, or any settings possibly affecting the environment(lava). (looking at the screenshot I mostly suspect your skill particles setting is to blame/too high)

It is easy to blame ZOS or the servers, but this is not a server issue. FPS is always about how fast your GPU can render the images for you to see. If your FPS sometimes drops or you experience any tearing or (small) image freezings/slows when looking around very fast under any conditions(especially when this happens under normal load), this is a sign your settings are too high(better to test this during heavy load). Adjust them accordingly.

Goodluck!

PS: 90 FPS is still perfectly fine! My monitor has a max of 60 hz. (Playing 4k, 60 fps)
PPS: Post your specs and settings so other players can help you out with your settings.
PPPS: Pro TIP: Most GPU's(atleast Nvidia) only use their fans above 60C degrees, so if you want to save on electricity you can place your game settings for the GPU to stay below that temperature. (This also ensures that even in situations where the GPU comes under very heavy load, the GPU won't have a reason to lower your FPS)

FPS issues is not always on the client side. FPS issues absolutely can come from the server side, especially with ESO.

NettleCarrier · October 2022

I run well over 100 addons (some tiny, some more complicated) and don't have FPS issues, missing models, or whatever you are trying to display in your screenshot. It's likely something else... how far are you from the server?

Dr_Con · October 2022

I'm not sure what a picture is supposed to imply. I would employ the use of Shadowplay or OBS if you want to prove some sort of issue with FPS.

Kingsindarkness · October 2022

TybaltKaine wrote: »

Maybe it has to do with all the extra stuff on your screen? Not trying to troll or anything, but I don't think the game is expecting to have that stuff going on in addition to everything else that exists by default.

I played on console for almost 2 years and rarely ever had FPS dips that I have had since being on PC. I changed some settings from ultra or high to medium and dumped a bunch of "suggested" addons and presto, back to my console experience.

Just my experience, yours will vary.

Yep...it's like a friend of mine... 40 AddOns crap 2G wifi and he's screaming OMG Z0s fix ur gamee!!!!!!!

Amottica · October 2022

The image shows 90 FPS and no explanation as to what the issue with FPS is. The picture and statement in the OP does not explain anything of value. It helps to provide thorough and constructive feedback. As it is Zenimax would likely look at the OP and move on.

Kaelthorn_Nightbloom · October 2022

Sarannah wrote: »

FPS is always a GPU performance issue, lower your settings.

It might also be a CPU bottleneck. Lowering settings is a good start. Shadows, planar reflections, ambient occlusion, etc.

Oreyn_Bearclaw · October 2022

Yeah, not sure what is going on here. 90 FPS is meaningless without context. What Graphics Settings, what resolution, etc. Assuming you are at Ultra settings, 90 FPS aint terrible with a 4 year old card.

My 3080TI will run 144 frames on Ultra at 3440x1440 darn near everywhere save Cyro. Maybe time to upgrade that 2080. I came from a 1080TI and the difference was mindblowing.

Sarannah · October 2022

UnabashedlyHonest wrote: »

Sarannah wrote: »

FPS is always a GPU performance issue, lower your settings. In this case skill particles, field of view, or any settings possibly affecting the environment(lava). (looking at the screenshot I mostly suspect your skill particles setting is to blame/too high)

It is easy to blame ZOS or the servers, but this is not a server issue. FPS is always about how fast your GPU can render the images for you to see. If your FPS sometimes drops or you experience any tearing or (small) image freezings/slows when looking around very fast under any conditions(especially when this happens under normal load), this is a sign your settings are too high(better to test this during heavy load). Adjust them accordingly.

Goodluck!

PS: 90 FPS is still perfectly fine! My monitor has a max of 60 hz. (Playing 4k, 60 fps)
PPS: Post your specs and settings so other players can help you out with your settings.
PPPS: Pro TIP: Most GPU's(atleast Nvidia) only use their fans above 60C degrees, so if you want to save on electricity you can place your game settings for the GPU to stay below that temperature. (This also ensures that even in situations where the GPU comes under very heavy load, the GPU won't have a reason to lower your FPS)

FPS issues is not always on the client side. FPS issues absolutely can come from the server side, especially with ESO.

Yes and no, but technically no. The game can have more taxing images or entities or particles to display for your computer, this is something the game/ZOS can only change by lowering the quality(or through optimization) of those images, particles, and entities in the gamefiles. So that even under heavy load, your computer(GPU) will be able to handle this easier. But as long as ZOS did not do this yet, it is always a settings issue. And you have to adjust your settings to the current graphics-weight situation. (You can adjust the settings when ZOS ever makes changes to the graphics)

But it is always your GPU which has to render the frame(s) from the files on your harddrive, and send them to your monitor to display. There is no server involved in that process. The only thing the server does is tell your computer where to display which images(files) in that frame.

So even though a game can change the graphics-weight of what is shown on your screen, it is always the GPU which has to be able to process that weight*. The current issue is highlighting the graphics-weight being too taxing for your GPU, so it drops the FPS to be able to show you that same weight. But the GPU shows that same weight by showing the frame less often than it should, as a change from 120 to 90 FPS saves the GPU from rendering 30 frames during that second. Meaning the GPU is taxed so much that it feels it has to lower its strain, by lowering the FPS(frames shown) by about 25%. (more if it is a 144hz monitor)

So in theory the FPS drop shows your settings are about a 25% too high for during the situation you encountered in that dungeon. (even more for a 144hz monitor)

Pointing out it is a server issue, simply because you feel ZOS should make the graphics less taxing/more optimized, is not realistic. You have to work with the current graphics-weight of the game, which tells you you need to be lowering your settings by quite some.

PS: *As someone mentioned the CPU can have an impact on FPS as well, but you can't really adjust or change the CPU easily. As this can wreck a computer much too quickly, and this isn't really practical. Especially when talking about games. It is better/easier to pin all the graphics issues to the GPU, and tweak the game's graphics settings for that device. As every game's graphics settings are mainly based on the GPU(excluding multithreaded rendering and some other very rare settings), and mainly using the GPU.

C0RTEX4 · October 2022

I find it funny how most of you can't read, I stated that I am using an RTX 2080 graphics card... It's not like I'm running a GPU from 2004...

And this game isn't even graphicly intense, it's not like this is Cyberpunk or Crisis... it's easy to blame PC's when we are running the latest spec compared to a 9-year-old server which all of a sudden, they will be upgrading in 2023 like it's some 10-year anniversary gift which WE the EU server players have been waiting for.

C0RTEX4 · October 2022

Don't even forget that they still haven't even fixed the lag in Cyrodill, 9 years later, are you going to blame PC's for that too?

Dr_Con · October 2022

C0RTEX4 wrote: »

I find it funny how most of you can't read, I stated that I am using an RTX 2080 graphics card... It's not like I'm running a GPU from 2004...

And this game isn't even graphicly intense, it's not like this is Cyberpunk or Crisis... it's easy to blame PC's when we are running the latest spec compared to a 9-year-old server which all of a sudden, they will be upgrading in 2023 like it's some 10-year anniversary gift which WE the EU server players have been waiting for.

The only thing you added here is that you're playing on EU servers. How much more info needs to be teased out of you? Are you willing to post your specs? As people said above, the graphics card isn't everything, CPU plays a large part in fps and the problem might be as simple as you having a faulty fan. Nobody is denying that you are having a problem, but you haven't shown any gameplay, or any resource monitoring, only a screenshot with your FPS on it. That's as helpful as telling us your eyes are brown.

kargen27 · October 2022

C0RTEX4 wrote: »

Don't even forget that they still haven't even fixed the lag in Cyrodill, 9 years later, are you going to blame PC's for that too?

Nope that was cheaters using cheat engine that is to blame for the lag. Calculations had t be switched from client side to server side and things haven't been the same since. It has gotten better but not as good as before ZoS had to deal with cheat engine.

Oreyn_Bearclaw · October 2022

Sarannah wrote: »

FPS is always a GPU performance issue, lower your settings. In this case skill particles, field of view, or any settings possibly affecting the environment(lava). (looking at the screenshot I mostly suspect your skill particles setting is to blame/too high)

It is easy to blame ZOS or the servers, but this is not a server issue. FPS is always about how fast your GPU can render the images for you to see. If your FPS sometimes drops or you experience any tearing or (small) image freezings/slows when looking around very fast under any conditions(especially when this happens under normal load), this is a sign your settings are too high(better to test this during heavy load). Adjust them accordingly.

Goodluck!

PS: 90 FPS is still perfectly fine! My monitor has a max of 60 hz. (Playing 4k, 60 fps)
PPS: Post your specs and settings so other players can help you out with your settings.
PPPS: Pro TIP: Most GPU's(atleast Nvidia) only use their fans above 60C degrees, so if you want to save on electricity you can place your game settings for the GPU to stay below that temperature. (This also ensures that even in situations where the GPU comes under very heavy load, the GPU won't have a reason to lower your FPS)

Yeah that is simply not true. When I build my new rig last year, I ran my old card for about 2 weeks. Better CPU saw noticable FPS improvement in ESO, admittedly, less so in other games.

C0RTEX4 wrote: »

I find it funny how most of you can't read, I stated that I am using an RTX 2080 graphics card... It's not like I'm running a GPU from 2004...

And this game isn't even graphicly intense, it's not like this is Cyberpunk or Crisis... it's easy to blame PC's when we are running the latest spec compared to a 9-year-old server which all of a sudden, they will be upgrading in 2023 like it's some 10-year anniversary gift which WE the EU server players have been waiting for.

Nothing wrong with a 2080, but it is 4 year old Tech. If running at 1920x1080 on high, I would probably expect more than 90 frames. If running at ultrawide (3440x1440) or 4k on Ultra, I am surprised you are even getting to 90. Still no idea what FPS you expect to get or what G settings or resolution you are trying to run. 90 is great on some setups and lousy on others. No context here whatsoever.

ZOS_Suserial · October 2022

Greetings,

We understand that people will not always agree and have their own opinions they want to express, but we also want the forums to be a constructive platform for ESO and its community. It’s all right to disagree or even debate with each other, but provoking conflict, baiting, inciting, mocking, antagonizing, trolling, etc. Is never acceptable in the official The Elder Scrolls Online community. This is a friendly reminder to remain on topic and civil when posting.

Thank you

Kappachi · October 2022

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Sarannah wrote: »

FPS is always a GPU performance issue, lower your settings. In this case skill particles, field of view, or any settings possibly affecting the environment(lava). (looking at the screenshot I mostly suspect your skill particles setting is to blame/too high)

It is easy to blame ZOS or the servers, but this is not a server issue. FPS is always about how fast your GPU can render the images for you to see. If your FPS sometimes drops or you experience any tearing or (small) image freezings/slows when looking around very fast under any conditions(especially when this happens under normal load), this is a sign your settings are too high(better to test this during heavy load). Adjust them accordingly.

Goodluck!

PS: 90 FPS is still perfectly fine! My monitor has a max of 60 hz. (Playing 4k, 60 fps)
PPS: Post your specs and settings so other players can help you out with your settings.
PPPS: Pro TIP: Most GPU's(atleast Nvidia) only use their fans above 60C degrees, so if you want to save on electricity you can place your game settings for the GPU to stay below that temperature. (This also ensures that even in situations where the GPU comes under very heavy load, the GPU won't have a reason to lower your FPS)

Yeah that is simply not true. When I build my new rig last year, I ran my old card for about 2 weeks. Better CPU saw noticable FPS improvement in ESO, admittedly, less so in other games.

C0RTEX4 wrote: »

I find it funny how most of you can't read, I stated that I am using an RTX 2080 graphics card... It's not like I'm running a GPU from 2004...

And this game isn't even graphicly intense, it's not like this is Cyberpunk or Crisis... it's easy to blame PC's when we are running the latest spec compared to a 9-year-old server which all of a sudden, they will be upgrading in 2023 like it's some 10-year anniversary gift which WE the EU server players have been waiting for.

Nothing wrong with a 2080, but it is 4 year old Tech. If running at 1920x1080 on high, I would probably expect more than 90 frames. If running at ultrawide (3440x1440) or 4k on Ultra, I am surprised you are even getting to 90. Still no idea what FPS you expect to get or what G settings or resolution you are trying to run. 90 is great on some setups and lousy on others. No context here whatsoever.

On my 3090 I'm perfectly happy with frames, where it dipped quite a bit on TITAN RTX, though in overworld locations the game doesn't seem to use your GPU as much as it can when compared to interior locations where I always get 240 FPS and more GPU usage. TITAN RTX is comparable to 2080 Ti roughly so I'd say I wasn't really happy with any GPU from last generation for games even of that generation whereas the 3090 and above seem really good for current gaming.

Sarannah · October 2022

C0RTEX4 wrote: »

I find it funny how most of you can't read, I stated that I am using an RTX 2080 graphics card... It's not like I'm running a GPU from 2004...

And this game isn't even graphicly intense, it's not like this is Cyberpunk or Crisis... it's easy to blame PC's when we are running the latest spec compared to a 9-year-old server which all of a sudden, they will be upgrading in 2023 like it's some 10-year anniversary gift which WE the EU server players have been waiting for.

This game is graphically very intense, it is actually one of the heavier games. Mostly due to poor optimization. And in your screenshots it shows one of the graphically quite heavy locations in game. The RTX 2080 is 4 years old, so yes you need to lower your graphics by quite some. The percentages are in my previous reply.

With a 60hz 4k monitor, I have my settings quite low on my 2080 TI. So that the card does not go above 58C degrees when playing, and usually ranges 54-58C depending on where I am.

Lowering your graphics is not what anyone wants to hear, but in this case it is true. And if you don't want FPS dips, you have to. Or you can simply ignore the FPS dips, as 90 FPS is still plenty.

And if you are going to change any settings, you can start with settings you barely notice anyways. Like placing shadows at some lower stage. The particles effects somewhat lower, field of view maybe 10% less. Settings you will barely notice the difference in when playing.

Oreyn_Bearclaw · October 2022

Kappachi wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Sarannah wrote: »

FPS is always a GPU performance issue, lower your settings. In this case skill particles, field of view, or any settings possibly affecting the environment(lava). (looking at the screenshot I mostly suspect your skill particles setting is to blame/too high)

It is easy to blame ZOS or the servers, but this is not a server issue. FPS is always about how fast your GPU can render the images for you to see. If your FPS sometimes drops or you experience any tearing or (small) image freezings/slows when looking around very fast under any conditions(especially when this happens under normal load), this is a sign your settings are too high(better to test this during heavy load). Adjust them accordingly.

Goodluck!

PS: 90 FPS is still perfectly fine! My monitor has a max of 60 hz. (Playing 4k, 60 fps)
PPS: Post your specs and settings so other players can help you out with your settings.
PPPS: Pro TIP: Most GPU's(atleast Nvidia) only use their fans above 60C degrees, so if you want to save on electricity you can place your game settings for the GPU to stay below that temperature. (This also ensures that even in situations where the GPU comes under very heavy load, the GPU won't have a reason to lower your FPS)

Yeah that is simply not true. When I build my new rig last year, I ran my old card for about 2 weeks. Better CPU saw noticable FPS improvement in ESO, admittedly, less so in other games.

C0RTEX4 wrote: »

I find it funny how most of you can't read, I stated that I am using an RTX 2080 graphics card... It's not like I'm running a GPU from 2004...

And this game isn't even graphicly intense, it's not like this is Cyberpunk or Crisis... it's easy to blame PC's when we are running the latest spec compared to a 9-year-old server which all of a sudden, they will be upgrading in 2023 like it's some 10-year anniversary gift which WE the EU server players have been waiting for.

Nothing wrong with a 2080, but it is 4 year old Tech. If running at 1920x1080 on high, I would probably expect more than 90 frames. If running at ultrawide (3440x1440) or 4k on Ultra, I am surprised you are even getting to 90. Still no idea what FPS you expect to get or what G settings or resolution you are trying to run. 90 is great on some setups and lousy on others. No context here whatsoever.

On my 3090 I'm perfectly happy with frames, where it dipped quite a bit on TITAN RTX, though in overworld locations the game doesn't seem to use your GPU as much as it can when compared to interior locations where I always get 240 FPS and more GPU usage. TITAN RTX is comparable to 2080 Ti roughly so I'd say I wasn't really happy with any GPU from last generation for games even of that generation whereas the 3090 and above seem really good for current gaming.

I honestly could not tell a difference between a 3080ti and 3090 in ESO. I can barely tell a difference between a 3070TI and 3080TI. With a 3060, it started to see some fall off ( I have a mining rig with a few of each, so I have done pretty thorough testing).

I run an ultrawide monitor (3440x1440) capable 200 HZ, but I just cap both framerate and refresh rate at 144. I want FPS stability, and I can’t tell the difference between 144 and 200 frames. I can certainly tell the difference between 60 and 144. I skipped the 2000 series cards, but there was a pretty big difference coming from a 1080TI.

I think if you are in the latest series of cards, ESO is probably not a game that is going to push them to the limit for the most part, and your bottlenecks may lie elsewhere. I you are 2 or 3 generations behind, the card can certainly be a bottleneck, especially if trying to go beyond 1920x1080.

Kappachi · October 2022

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Kappachi wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Sarannah wrote: »

FPS is always a GPU performance issue, lower your settings. In this case skill particles, field of view, or any settings possibly affecting the environment(lava). (looking at the screenshot I mostly suspect your skill particles setting is to blame/too high)

It is easy to blame ZOS or the servers, but this is not a server issue. FPS is always about how fast your GPU can render the images for you to see. If your FPS sometimes drops or you experience any tearing or (small) image freezings/slows when looking around very fast under any conditions(especially when this happens under normal load), this is a sign your settings are too high(better to test this during heavy load). Adjust them accordingly.

Goodluck!

PS: 90 FPS is still perfectly fine! My monitor has a max of 60 hz. (Playing 4k, 60 fps)
PPS: Post your specs and settings so other players can help you out with your settings.
PPPS: Pro TIP: Most GPU's(atleast Nvidia) only use their fans above 60C degrees, so if you want to save on electricity you can place your game settings for the GPU to stay below that temperature. (This also ensures that even in situations where the GPU comes under very heavy load, the GPU won't have a reason to lower your FPS)

Yeah that is simply not true. When I build my new rig last year, I ran my old card for about 2 weeks. Better CPU saw noticable FPS improvement in ESO, admittedly, less so in other games.

C0RTEX4 wrote: »

I find it funny how most of you can't read, I stated that I am using an RTX 2080 graphics card... It's not like I'm running a GPU from 2004...

And this game isn't even graphicly intense, it's not like this is Cyberpunk or Crisis... it's easy to blame PC's when we are running the latest spec compared to a 9-year-old server which all of a sudden, they will be upgrading in 2023 like it's some 10-year anniversary gift which WE the EU server players have been waiting for.

Nothing wrong with a 2080, but it is 4 year old Tech. If running at 1920x1080 on high, I would probably expect more than 90 frames. If running at ultrawide (3440x1440) or 4k on Ultra, I am surprised you are even getting to 90. Still no idea what FPS you expect to get or what G settings or resolution you are trying to run. 90 is great on some setups and lousy on others. No context here whatsoever.

On my 3090 I'm perfectly happy with frames, where it dipped quite a bit on TITAN RTX, though in overworld locations the game doesn't seem to use your GPU as much as it can when compared to interior locations where I always get 240 FPS and more GPU usage. TITAN RTX is comparable to 2080 Ti roughly so I'd say I wasn't really happy with any GPU from last generation for games even of that generation whereas the 3090 and above seem really good for current gaming.

I honestly could not tell a difference between a 3080ti and 3090 in ESO. I can barely tell a difference between a 3070TI and 3080TI. With a 3060, it started to see some fall off ( I have a mining rig with a few of each, so I have done pretty thorough testing).

I run an ultrawide monitor (3440x1440) capable 200 HZ, but I just cap both framerate and refresh rate at 144. I want FPS stability, and I can’t tell the difference between 144 and 200 frames. I can certainly tell the difference between 60 and 144. I skipped the 2000 series cards, but there was a pretty big difference coming from a 1080TI.

I think if you are in the latest series of cards, ESO is probably not a game that is going to push them to the limit for the most part, and your bottlenecks may lie elsewhere. I you are 2 or 3 generations behind, the card can certainly be a bottleneck, especially if trying to go beyond 1920x1080.

If you can't tell the difference between 144 and 200 then it's because you're not using a 240Hz monitor, 240 FPS is very smooth, a lot smoother than 144 FPS on a 240Hz monitor.

Memory_In_Motion · October 2022

TybaltKaine wrote: »

I don't see how player count bears any relevance to FPS loss in a 4 person dungeon?

If this is supposed to be a video, it isn't so I can't see any fps loss in real time when you switch bars, as you attest.

you only see a 4 man dungeon. YOu don't see how many instances of 4 man dungeons are running at a time.

Memory_In_Motion · October 2022

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Kappachi wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Sarannah wrote: »

FPS is always a GPU performance issue, lower your settings. In this case skill particles, field of view, or any settings possibly affecting the environment(lava). (looking at the screenshot I mostly suspect your skill particles setting is to blame/too high)

It is easy to blame ZOS or the servers, but this is not a server issue. FPS is always about how fast your GPU can render the images for you to see. If your FPS sometimes drops or you experience any tearing or (small) image freezings/slows when looking around very fast under any conditions(especially when this happens under normal load), this is a sign your settings are too high(better to test this during heavy load). Adjust them accordingly.

Goodluck!

PS: 90 FPS is still perfectly fine! My monitor has a max of 60 hz. (Playing 4k, 60 fps)
PPS: Post your specs and settings so other players can help you out with your settings.
PPPS: Pro TIP: Most GPU's(atleast Nvidia) only use their fans above 60C degrees, so if you want to save on electricity you can place your game settings for the GPU to stay below that temperature. (This also ensures that even in situations where the GPU comes under very heavy load, the GPU won't have a reason to lower your FPS)

Yeah that is simply not true. When I build my new rig last year, I ran my old card for about 2 weeks. Better CPU saw noticable FPS improvement in ESO, admittedly, less so in other games.

C0RTEX4 wrote: »

I find it funny how most of you can't read, I stated that I am using an RTX 2080 graphics card... It's not like I'm running a GPU from 2004...

And this game isn't even graphicly intense, it's not like this is Cyberpunk or Crisis... it's easy to blame PC's when we are running the latest spec compared to a 9-year-old server which all of a sudden, they will be upgrading in 2023 like it's some 10-year anniversary gift which WE the EU server players have been waiting for.

Nothing wrong with a 2080, but it is 4 year old Tech. If running at 1920x1080 on high, I would probably expect more than 90 frames. If running at ultrawide (3440x1440) or 4k on Ultra, I am surprised you are even getting to 90. Still no idea what FPS you expect to get or what G settings or resolution you are trying to run. 90 is great on some setups and lousy on others. No context here whatsoever.

On my 3090 I'm perfectly happy with frames, where it dipped quite a bit on TITAN RTX, though in overworld locations the game doesn't seem to use your GPU as much as it can when compared to interior locations where I always get 240 FPS and more GPU usage. TITAN RTX is comparable to 2080 Ti roughly so I'd say I wasn't really happy with any GPU from last generation for games even of that generation whereas the 3090 and above seem really good for current gaming.

I honestly could not tell a difference between a 3080ti and 3090 in ESO. I can barely tell a difference between a 3070TI and 3080TI. With a 3060, it started to see some fall off ( I have a mining rig with a few of each, so I have done pretty thorough testing).

I run an ultrawide monitor (3440x1440) capable 200 HZ, but I just cap both framerate and refresh rate at 144. I want FPS stability, and I can’t tell the difference between 144 and 200 frames. I can certainly tell the difference between 60 and 144. I skipped the 2000 series cards, but there was a pretty big difference coming from a 1080TI.

I think if you are in the latest series of cards, ESO is probably not a game that is going to push them to the limit for the most part, and your bottlenecks may lie elsewhere. I you are 2 or 3 generations behind, the card can certainly be a bottleneck, especially if trying to go beyond 1920x1080.

I think most people are playing with a tv, even those on pc. Don't think most pc players are using a monitor that does 144-240 htz refresh rate. Probably most people are in the 60-120 htz range... on a 4k tv either at 1440p or 1080p. Most folks in that case have no need of anything beefier than a 1650.

Memory_In_Motion · October 2022

at least where eso is concerned.

Marto · October 2022

C0RTEX4 wrote: »

I find it funny how most of you can't read, I stated that I am using an RTX 2080 graphics card... It's not like I'm running a GPU from 2004...

And this game isn't even graphicly intense, it's not like this is Cyberpunk or Crisis... it's easy to blame PC's when we are running the latest spec compared to a 9-year-old server which all of a sudden, they will be upgrading in 2023 like it's some 10-year anniversary gift which WE the EU server players have been waiting for.

So, what exactly is the problem? That you're getting 90fps on your setup, and you think you should be able to get more?

That is mostly an intrinsic downside to ESO and to MMOs in general. A lot of data from a lot of players, NPCs, and elements need to be transferred and processed before it can make it to your screen. Anything from the motif nearby players are using, to the debuffs placed to enemies, to the precise location of a container you can loot. It's far more info than what a shooter or single player game needs to process.

Some of it is ESO's engine and servers not being the most optimized, sure. But it's been getting better, and will probably see further improvements.

As for solutions, you can try this:

By default, ESO is locked to a maximum of 100fps. Open the UserSettings.txt file in

\Libraries\Documents\Elder Scrolls Online\live and change the line SET MinFrameTime.2 "0.01000000" to define your maximum FPS. (60FPS = 0.01666666, 120FPS = 0.008333333)

Or you can use the Votan's Advanced Settings addon, which will let you change it in-game.

dsalter · October 2022

im sitting at a constant 120 (i can go way higher but things get weird) FPS and cryo still lags. its the server.

Necrotech_Master · October 2022

Marto wrote: »

C0RTEX4 wrote: »

I find it funny how most of you can't read, I stated that I am using an RTX 2080 graphics card... It's not like I'm running a GPU from 2004...

And this game isn't even graphicly intense, it's not like this is Cyberpunk or Crisis... it's easy to blame PC's when we are running the latest spec compared to a 9-year-old server which all of a sudden, they will be upgrading in 2023 like it's some 10-year anniversary gift which WE the EU server players have been waiting for.

So, what exactly is the problem? That you're getting 90fps on your setup, and you think you should be able to get more?

That is mostly an intrinsic downside to ESO and to MMOs in general. A lot of data from a lot of players, NPCs, and elements need to be transferred and processed before it can make it to your screen. Anything from the motif nearby players are using, to the debuffs placed to enemies, to the precise location of a container you can loot. It's far more info than what a shooter or single player game needs to process.

Some of it is ESO's engine and servers not being the most optimized, sure. But it's been getting better, and will probably see further improvements.

As for solutions, you can try this:

By default, ESO is locked to a maximum of 100fps. Open the UserSettings.txt file in \Libraries\Documents\Elder Scrolls Online\live and change the line SET MinFrameTime.2 "0.01000000" to define your maximum FPS. (60FPS = 0.01666666, 120FPS = 0.008333333)

Or you can use the Votan's Advanced Settings addon, which will let you change it in-game.

this is helpful, but i would also suggest using graphics software for the graphics card to actually hard cap your FPS, because elder scrolls has sometimes had issues for some people where it was basically overheating their computer during load screens because the FPS was not being capped

Kappachi · October 2022

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Marto wrote: »

C0RTEX4 wrote: »

I find it funny how most of you can't read, I stated that I am using an RTX 2080 graphics card... It's not like I'm running a GPU from 2004...

And this game isn't even graphicly intense, it's not like this is Cyberpunk or Crisis... it's easy to blame PC's when we are running the latest spec compared to a 9-year-old server which all of a sudden, they will be upgrading in 2023 like it's some 10-year anniversary gift which WE the EU server players have been waiting for.

So, what exactly is the problem? That you're getting 90fps on your setup, and you think you should be able to get more?

That is mostly an intrinsic downside to ESO and to MMOs in general. A lot of data from a lot of players, NPCs, and elements need to be transferred and processed before it can make it to your screen. Anything from the motif nearby players are using, to the debuffs placed to enemies, to the precise location of a container you can loot. It's far more info than what a shooter or single player game needs to process.

Some of it is ESO's engine and servers not being the most optimized, sure. But it's been getting better, and will probably see further improvements.

As for solutions, you can try this:

By default, ESO is locked to a maximum of 100fps. Open the UserSettings.txt file in \Libraries\Documents\Elder Scrolls Online\live and change the line SET MinFrameTime.2 "0.01000000" to define your maximum FPS. (60FPS = 0.01666666, 120FPS = 0.008333333)

Or you can use the Votan's Advanced Settings addon, which will let you change it in-game.

this is helpful, but i would also suggest using graphics software for the graphics card to actually hard cap your FPS, because elder scrolls has sometimes had issues for some people where it was basically overheating their computer during load screens because the FPS was not being capped

Computer overheating is never directly a result of the GPU being utilized 100% due to drawing 4000 frames per second, it's due to the computer not having sufficient cooling systems in place. I never let my PC exceed 74 celsius and when it does i make sure to dust out all the fans and do maintenance on the liquid cooling setup.