Syrabane’s Ward and Faun’s Lark Cladding in PVP

DrSlaughtr · September 2022

Medium Chest – Faun’s Lark Cladding
If you continuously Sprint for 1 second, you gain the ability to pass through enemies. Enemies you pass through become Charmed for 4 seconds, removing their ability to attack or cast abilities as they move toward you. Charming an enemy this way restores 678 Stamina and Magicka to you and heals you for 678 Health. Charming an enemy removes you from Stealth.

Heavy Belt – Syrabane’s Ward
You cannot move while Bracing. While Bracing, you create a 12 meter zone of protection. Allies within the zone increase their Block Mitigation by 30% and their Healthy Recovery by 950.

These both will cause major issues in PVP. Fauns will let a player completely incapable of attacking you while you can drop everything on them. Syrabane's will make it even harder to kill comp groups who already can ignore most siege and ulti dumps.

We are so entrenched in a Tank meta that I am completely dumbfounded that nothing has yet been done to quell the issue, but rather we keep getting sets and adjustments which only further dig us deeper into that hole. The entire premise of warfare in Cyrodiil has been completely toppled by a simple equation. Who has the most tank builds on coms will win every battle. No one needs to do individual damage. Everyone can build to max survivability with one or two proc sets. We then just focus down people one by one who cannot put out enough damage to overcome our ridiculous advantages.

Please consider making these sets work outside PVP only. We already have enough problem sets to deal with as is.

acastanza_ESO · September 2022

1000% Agree. It is literally insane.

Sure a tank should be able to turtle out the damage from maybe 2-3 people (maximum), but that isn't what we have, we have actual insaanity where it takes a full group to take out a single person. Absolute madness and they only want to make it worse.

And on top of that why do they refuse to do anything to address heal stacking in PVP? It is the single major problem that ballgroups abuse to make Cyrodiil unfun. Focus on that, not adding more broken sets, or baffling changes to the Emperor bonus that no one asked for.

As to Faun's specifically though, it appears that it is just a fear effect that can be broken free from. As long that is true, and it respects CC immunity (which appears to be the case) it isn't that bad, even though I think the core idea is unfun.

TechMaybeHic · September 2022

Fauns 5 piece is a long way to go to basically get a fear but where the player can move and still break free.

The other will be trollish for sure.

acastanza_ESO · September 2022

TechMaybeHic wrote: »

Fauns 5 piece is a long way to go to basically get a fear but where the player can move and still break free.

The other will be trollish for sure.

It isn't a 5pc, it's a mythic.

TechMaybeHic · September 2022

acastanza_ESO wrote: »

TechMaybeHic wrote: »

Fauns 5 piece is a long way to go to basically get a fear but where the player can move and still break free.

The other will be trollish for sure.

It isn't a 5pc, it's a mythic.

Oops. Yep just a 1 piece mythic. Still after seeing how it works, it's still pretty lackluster

Firstmep · September 2022

Fauna have a massive telegraph on the wearer and can be broken free straight away.
Not exactly op.

DrSlaughtr · September 2022

Firstmep wrote: »

Fauna have a massive telegraph on the wearer and can be broken free straight away.
Not exactly op.

Assuming you CAN break free right away, that is still plenty of time to burn down the target or bomb a group. We shall see.

Necrotech_Master · September 2022

ninjagank wrote: »

Firstmep wrote: »

Fauna have a massive telegraph on the wearer and can be broken free straight away.
Not exactly op.

Assuming you CAN break free right away, that is still plenty of time to burn down the target or bomb a group. We shall see.

slippery cp breaks free right away, i see that being used a lot with this coming out lol

acastanza_ESO · September 2022

Firstmep wrote: »

Fauna have a massive telegraph on the wearer and can be broken free straight away.
Not exactly op.

Faun's will be combined with Stage 4 Vamp's Unnatural Movement passive (not that uncommon already in PVP) to have the person completely stealthed up during their spint until the moment they disable you with Faun's, at which point they also get the 300 Weapon/Spell Damage from Strike from the Shadows when Faun's pulls you out of stealth. I could forsee this being a pretty strong gank combo.

DocFrost72 · September 2022

Fauns being called OP is so out of left field for me when it is definitely a worse CC. Your enemy can, for instance, still exit a negate or get away from incoming siege.

acastanza_ESO wrote: »

Firstmep wrote: »

Fauna have a massive telegraph on the wearer and can be broken free straight away.
Not exactly op.

Faun's will be combined with Stage 4 Vamp's Unnatural Movement passive (not that uncommon already in PVP) to have the person completely stealthed up during their spint until the moment they disable you with Faun's, at which point they also get the 300 Weapon/Spell Damage from Strike from the Shadows when Faun's pulls you out of stealth. I could forsee this being a pretty strong gank combo.

Which you can do right now, sans the "CC. That's the only thing this adds to that combo. It'll be interesting to see if it is worth taking over other options for sure.

TechMaybeHic · September 2022

I mean you might as well have vamps stun if you're stage 4 to begin with and save your mythic for wild hunt so you're fast as hell while doing it. Kind of pointless so far IMO

DrSlaughtr · September 2022

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

ninjagank wrote: »

Firstmep wrote: »

Fauna have a massive telegraph on the wearer and can be broken free straight away.
Not exactly op.

Assuming you CAN break free right away, that is still plenty of time to burn down the target or bomb a group. We shall see.

slippery cp breaks free right away, i see that being used a lot with this coming out lol

Slippery hangs all the time, just like manual break free.

Sergykid · September 2022

the cc is only good for ganking because you skip a gcd to do a cc ability and u start damaging directly, like nbs used to have out of stealth regularly. Could be useful in a brawl as you run behind a pillar and come back with the stun, but only this is not worth wearing.

The problem would be easy sustain, just sprint through few people every 7 seconds and u get 2-3k mag and stam, that's 300 mag per sec meaning a 600 both recoveries set in one item with no downsides. The free aoe cc is bonus, walk into a big stack after corner u get healed back to full, also for free.

"it costs stam to sprint and time" sprinting for 1-2 seconds is nothing for these benefits. It should grants these effects with a 7 sec cd to align with cc immunity. And activate after sprinting for 3 sec at least.

BahometZ · September 2022

Just to confirm, Charm is a CC like fear?

Also, you can't cast while sprinting so it may as well have a GCD.

TechMaybeHic · September 2022

BahometZ wrote: »

Just to confirm, Charm is a CC like fear?

Also, you can't cast while sprinting so it may as well have a GCD.

So if you remember fear back when people would uncontrollably run when feared. It's like that but they can control where they are running

AlterBlika · September 2022

TechMaybeHic wrote: »

So if you remember fear back when people would uncontrollably run when feared.

It was very buggy... I used to get inside some things I really shouldn't pretty often.

Mayrael · September 2022

I'm more woried about combinations below. With Magickasteal it will be possible again to build permablock builds.

Light Legs – Stormweaver’s Cavort
Adds 300 Magicka Recovery. Sprint, Roll Dodge, Bash, Break Free, Sneak, and Block now consume Magicka instead of Stamina. You cannot regain Magicka while Blocking, Sneaking, or Sprinting. You can gain Stamina while Blocking, Sneaking, or Sprinting.

Combined with things like:
Desert Rose
2 items: Adds 1487 Armor
3 items: Adds 1206 Maximum Health
4 items: Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
5 items: When you take damage, you have a 25% chance to restore 2012 Magicka. This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.

Perfected Defensive Position
2 items: Adds 103 Stamina Recovery, When you reflect or absorb a spell projectile with Defensive Posture, you restore 2200 Magicka. If Defensive Posture expires without reflecting or absorbing a spell projectile, you restore 6600 Magicka instead.

Magicka Furnace
2 items: Adds 1487 Armor
3 items: Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
4 items: Adds 129 Weapon and Spell Damage
5 items: When you take damage while you are under 50% Magicka, you restore 7590 Magicka. This effect can occur once every 30 seconds.

Perfected Precise Regeneration
2 items: Adds 526 Critical Chance, When your Regeneration critically strikes, you restore 558 Magicka. This effect cannot occur from simultaneous critical strikes.

Spell Parasite
2 items: Adds 129 Weapon and Spell Damage
3 items: Adds 657 Critical Chance
4 items: Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
5 items: Whenever you deal damage, you restore 63 Magicka. This effect can occur once every 0.25 seconds.

Sergykid · September 2022

Mayrael wrote: »

I'm more woried about combinations below. With Magickasteal it will be possible again to build permablock builds.

u can already do permablock mag build without any mythics with those sets, just use a frost staff. Also there is already a permablock mythic item, that chest

Necrotech_Master · September 2022

Sergykid wrote: »

Mayrael wrote: »

I'm more woried about combinations below. With Magickasteal it will be possible again to build permablock builds.

u can already do permablock mag build without any mythics with those sets, just use a frost staff. Also there is already a permablock mythic item, that chest

bloodlord embrace only works on 1 target at a time, and only if you can bash them, so doesnt work well if your going for a tank that can take 20 people beating on you, especially if they are ranged

ketsparrowhawk · September 2022

Charmed status should count as hard CC and apply CC immunity.

Beaverton · October 2022

I haven't paid much attention to this so maybe this has been discussed or changed but how the hell are they going to keep track of who is moving toward you in a 30 v 30. They can't even keep track of where my toon is half the time.

Caribou77 · October 2022

yeah well quality and consistency of pvp experience are… considerations that may on occasion take a back seat to the introduction of new mythic items.

DrSlaughtr · October 2022

The only good thing about this is that it will save me a ton of AP on siege because I know if I look down at the ram and see that nonsense, I won't even bother to put anything down. 🙃

robpr · October 2022

acastanza_ESO wrote: »

Faun's will be combined with Stage 4 Vamp's Unnatural Movement passive (not that uncommon already in PVP) to have the person completely stealthed up during their spint until the moment they disable you with Faun's, at which point they also get the 300 Weapon/Spell Damage from Strike from the Shadows when Faun's pulls you out of stealth. I could forsee this being a pretty strong gank combo.

Faun activates after 1s of sprinting. Unnatural Movement after 3s. Faun disables stealth, so while wearing it that passive become useless apart from sprint cost reduction.

Necrotech_Master · October 2022

robpr wrote: »

acastanza_ESO wrote: »

Faun's will be combined with Stage 4 Vamp's Unnatural Movement passive (not that uncommon already in PVP) to have the person completely stealthed up during their spint until the moment they disable you with Faun's, at which point they also get the 300 Weapon/Spell Damage from Strike from the Shadows when Faun's pulls you out of stealth. I could forsee this being a pretty strong gank combo.

Faun activates after 1s of sprinting. Unnatural Movement after 3s. Faun disables stealth, so while wearing it that passive become useless apart from sprint cost reduction.

faun only disables the stealth upon charming, so in cyro you could be sprinting around without running into anything for quite sometime

the first enemy you charmed would break stealth, thus giving you the other bonuses to perform a burst while the opponent was dealing with charmed effect