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Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

Free stuff is always nice. Also, I don't think it is healthy approach to be mad / angry that someone else is getting free stuff.

I'm upset that I'm not getting free stuff... 2 years in a row.

This completely invalidates having DLC access as an ESO+ perk.

You're getting a pet. It also enhances your perk, because you can keep it even without ESO+ access.

I couldn't care less about pets. And I will never play without ESO+.

Free DLC access is supposed to be a perk of ESO+.

Sure, but there's a difference between "nothing was gained" and "what we gained sucked." I did like and will use the perks, and am a subscriber.

That is fine for you but I am beyond disappointed that the value of my subscription is now decreased two years in a row and the only compensation for that is something that is useless to me.

The value of my subscription has increased, so I'm quite happy. I saved myself the crowns I would have spent on Firesong. I like having the dlc when I cancel, so that I only lose the craft bag and free statues.

And those of us who don't buy dlc's separately because they are an ES0+ perk that we are paying for with our subscriptions get nothing.

I buy ESO+ AND the DLC. I am on a year long subscription currently, but have bought month long subs and let them lapse during updates I don't like in the past. Also ESO+ members get the pet. I get a lot of people don't like the pet, but it doesn't stop existing just because it's not popular.

What good does it do me to get a pet I will never even look at, let alone use?

If some players are happy with this then that is good for them but in my opinion they really dropped the ball with their subscribers two years in a row.

Wait...there's an Event?

I am so useless with events, I almost never pay attention to them.

Just out of interest, what is the award if you already bought the DLC?

Arthtur wrote: »

After thinking about it... why players with ESO+ cant just get Collector edition of this DLC? Players without sub woulkd be happy with a free dlc while ESO+ players would be happy with some cosmetics and 1 less thing to buy. Wouldnt this be the best middle ground?

I think the CE version of the DLC for ESO+ subscribers would have been awesome.

It's what I expected the reward to be when I purchased High Isle based on what they did last year.

It's easier to sell Chapters and keep people playing if people think they'll get something later if they keep playing.

This is especially true when the story blatantly stops before the ending.

If people keep playing, they may spend more $ on the Crown Store.

As a plus subscriber, no, not at all, I think it's stupid to gift something a lot of us get anyway, and the salamander pet is worse than nothing as far as I'm concerned, it's literally just giving the finger to subscribers

Amottica wrote: »

Sure, Why not.

However, the poll will be skewed. Not due to its design but because there will always be people who want more, more, more, regardless of what is offered.

There is a serious difference between wanting more and wanting it to be on par with previous years like summerset. The quality of rewards in the last two years objectively dropped. A dlc is around 2k crowns. Summerset got you an exclusive pet, a mount which would be considered apex level in the crown store, and a house that would run around 8k in the crown store. That's roughly 5x the value. Heck the Amazon prime reward got you a cool mount and pet and you didn't have to even do anything lol. You can't tell me new players wouldn't be pumped about a cool mount when they have access to only super basic ones unless they spend a ton of money.

I was hoping they would do this again. It’s the reason I waited for the 50% off sale instead of the even steeper sale right before the next Chapter.

Auldwulfe wrote: »

The gifts are fine -- considering that they already left themselves an out, if they chose not to give us the gifts, at all.
They made it a percentage... but a percentage of what? People who log in, characters that exist, some random number?
And they can change that number at a moment's notice ... we all make it too fast and they want to add drama... freeze it around 98% ..... because that would be 98% of what, exactly?

As far as the gifts .... anything free is nice. I never get anything but 4 or 5 purple gems, whenever I do a twitch crate, and it appears that, due to twitch, and the way it showed things, I might have missed one today. I went in to watch the official stream.... and it kept popping me over to one of the others.... I got my 4 purple gem drop from there, but it would not let me actually watch the official one, and I am hearing that was a separate crate .... oh well, I am either 4 or 5 purple gems lower than I would have been.......

Auldwulfe

yeah those meters are not very clear lol

im assuming what they are counting is the # of people who have the pathfinder achievement, but the kicker this year is that each account can only earn this achievement once because of account wide achievements

now to your point they dont give quantities for what the thresholds are and its very likely we will end up hitting 100% before the end of the event even knowing that each account can only contribute to this once

I am not upset about it, but neither am I excited about it.

I look at it this way. Anyone that was upset about High Isle being lack luster can just have the added benefit of a dlc that is free. Anyone who subbed to eso+ gets something exclusive to them.

Also, you can today pick up high isle at a discount and still get the firesong dlc for free.

That said, I do wish the formula were different. That maybe we get something different from last year's run.

Like I said it's meh for me.

I just wish that they would include something for base game users. I feel that would create a lot of good will.

ESO+ here, on multiple accounts, so there’s no benefit for me. I’ve tried playing without ESO+, but as a crafter, the inventory management is just impossible without it. I hope the other rewards in the final bags within bags are good, though!

DarcyMardin wrote: »

ESO+ here, on multiple accounts, so there’s no benefit for me. I’ve tried playing without ESO+, but as a crafter, the inventory management is just impossible without it. I hope the other rewards in the final bags within bags are good, though!

The biggest boon of the whole event is the drops I think. The attunable crafting station drops are pretty bomb. Dunno how rare they are though.

So I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt last year, figuring maybe they didn't think through that this is a non-reward for ESO+ members. It wasn't very smart of them, but I could accept it as a good-faith oversight.

They don't have that excuse this time.

I mean free stuff is free stuff what is there to complain about?

Zenlun wrote: »

I mean free stuff is free stuff what is there to complain about?

lol, just because something doesn't have a dollar amount attached to it doesn't mean it's free, why do so many people get so caught up on this?

As for those people defending the pet as something to behold and appreciate... I got a free pet for running twitch in the background for 15min today (and personally, I think it's a hell of a lot better than the salamander), so please don't try and create value where this is none.

Pet giveaways in ESO are a dime a dozen, most people have more than they will ever use, and that goes double when it's just a low effort reskin.

ZOS had a chance to do something more and give players something they've been asking for - they chose not to do that, and compared to previous years, this offering is objectively left wanting.

I'm not surprised though, this seems to be a recurring trend these days, but I guess all it takes to win many people over is another reskinned pet.

Needless to say, I'm just frustrated (with this and so much more when it comes to ESO and ZOS) - I'm sure there are plenty of people for whom this specific pet will be the cherry on top for their builds, and I'm genuinely happy for them, it's always nice when that happens and I don't want to take away from their enjoyment.

In the end, I just wish the rest of us (those that don't care for the free dlc or pet) had something to be as excited about as well.

I don't understand people saying ESO+ members aren't getting anything. Free DLC might not change their daily experience, but there's a clear difference between having access only while subscribing and permanently unlocking it. I've never interrupted my subscription and I buy all zone DLCs and my favorite dungeon ones, just in case something happens with my plus.

A few days ago my subscription ran out and wasn't renewed because for some reason the bank declined it. I used the very same card to restart the subscription and it worked, making me wonder why in blazes it had been declined in the first place. Had this failed, or required further actions like waiting for a new card to arrive (banks are so nice they sometimes renew your card - and cancel the old one - without telling you), I would've been forced to rely on content I purchased. I feel better knowing I won't be locked out of my favorite zones.

Truth be told, I'm a bit disappointed we're not getting a house this year, though that hourglass from Q4 will be very useful. Anyway, rewards could have been far worse and all I have to do to get free stuff is earn an easy achievement.