Would you be OK with ZOS not releasing 1 or 2 content updates and fixed bugs instead?

RebornV3x · September 2022

Fix Bugs

They could easily just delay or get rid of a dungeon DLC one quarter and just focus on bug fixes or anyone not working on bug fixes have extra time to focus on the Chapter most people don't do the DLC dungeons anyways and if they do its a one and done unless you need gear... then just rebrand the game to The Elder Scroll Online: Remastered or something when the 2023 chapter comes out

IZZEFlameLash · September 2022

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Dragonnord wrote: »

IZZEFlameLash wrote: »

1 - It ain't just Wayrest. It happens every dungeon. Wayrest just happen to be the dungeon that it rears its ugly head in the most. You can kill every single aggro'd mobs and you can still be well stuck in combat.

2 - You can time it perfectly and you still run the risk of skills not firing. I wish it was just timing thing, but it isn't. There's also sister problem of bars not swapping. Reason why many people loved Oakensoul 1 bar btw.

3 - Random crashes with the symptomps that existed since the beginning isn't an issue to you? It sure does seem to eat away people's willingness to play a game from what I can tell.

1 - Show me proof of you or ANYONE stuck in combat in any dungeon after killing all mobs.
Btw, I explained the Wayrest situation (seems you don't like to read) that people think it's a bug, where it's not.

2 - Show me proof of you timing skills (min 1 second delay between skills) where skill get stuck. If you desperately hurry the skills is your fault. Otherwise, show me proof that you are right-timing them and they are not firing.

3 - Addons fault. Otherwise, just common bugs (as in any game) that ZOS ALWAYS ACKNOWLEDGE and fix with weekly maintenances.

Sorry, no. Addons or no addons, crashes are going to happen, whether console or pc.

If you aren't a dev, I am in no way obligated to post anything for you and spend my precious short time of play (this game or not this game) just to prove you wrong. You are welcome to just watch someone stream this game and see skills not firing + in combat glitch. You think people haven't ever clipped those before? Then you perhaps are the one that need to prove that these issues don't happen unlike army of people experiencing these problems.

Dragonnord · September 2022

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IZZEFlameLash wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

IZZEFlameLash wrote: »

1 - It ain't just Wayrest. It happens every dungeon. Wayrest just happen to be the dungeon that it rears its ugly head in the most. You can kill every single aggro'd mobs and you can still be well stuck in combat.

2 - You can time it perfectly and you still run the risk of skills not firing. I wish it was just timing thing, but it isn't. There's also sister problem of bars not swapping. Reason why many people loved Oakensoul 1 bar btw.

3 - Random crashes with the symptomps that existed since the beginning isn't an issue to you? It sure does seem to eat away people's willingness to play a game from what I can tell.

1 - Show me proof of you or ANYONE stuck in combat in any dungeon after killing all mobs.
Btw, I explained the Wayrest situation (seems you don't like to read) that people think it's a bug, where it's not.

2 - Show me proof of you timing skills (min 1 second delay between skills) where skill get stuck. If you desperately hurry the skills is your fault. Otherwise, show me proof that you are right-timing them and they are not firing.

3 - Addons fault. Otherwise, just common bugs (as in any game) that ZOS ALWAYS ACKNOWLEDGE and fix with weekly maintenances.

Sorry, no. Addons or no addons, crashes are going to happen, whether console or pc.

If you aren't a dev, I am in no way obligated to post anything for you and spend my precious short time of play (this game or not this game) just to prove you wrong. You are welcome to just watch someone stream this game and see skills not firing + in combat glitch. You think people haven't ever clipped those before? Then you perhaps are the one that need to prove that these issues don't happen unlike army of people experiencing these problems.

Funny no one can prove that skills don't fire if they are not used wrong.

Stop pressing your keyboard like if you were firing a machine gun (mening don't press two or three skill keys at the same time, don't try to drop your ulti at the same time you are trying to release another skill o grabbing a synergy, etc.) and you will see skills always work perfecly.

Narvuntien · September 2022

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Content pays the bills. Without the content, you can't pay people to fix the bugs. What should be happening is that content is being made and a different group of people are fixing bugs.

Lucozade85 · September 2022

They should be doing both at the same time. Not one or the other.

Malthorne · September 2022

Fix Bugs

I think eso is need of a Tamriel Unlimited or One Tamriel type overhaul patch with refreshing changes that includes massive bug fixes, balance, and performance improvements. This could give the devs a clean slate to build off of for the new few years.

boi_anachronism_ · September 2022

Fix Bugs

Dragonnord wrote: »

boi_anachronism_ wrote: »

All of these things I have discussed I have reported and several of them I have gotten messages back from zos to say they have been investing fixes.

So ZOS said they are working on them and you complain? Every single game has and will always have bugs, the company already stated they will be fixed and you still complain?

I heard Solitaire and Minesweeper have no bugs. Maybe those work for you.

So the game is fine it's in a good state and then you acknowledge that their are actually bugs that need to be fixed? Second some of these are being worked on, not all and several are actual issues like the control one which is happening across every platform and only is resolved by closing the game... And just because they are looking at a fix doesn't mean it will happen for a long time sometimes taking 3 or more maintenance cycles because they are working on content instead which is the entire point.

Diundriel · September 2022

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as a player on PC EU I kinda wanna wait till we get new servers to see overall performance - which inpacts the playability of the game more for me (especially in PvP) than some minor Bug fixes. Also why would people pay eso if they don't get new content? and how are they supposed to make money if they stop selling their DLCs for a while??? I don't see that happening ...

I wish they would bring some kind of new PvP DLC to the game, but that will continue to be a dream for some more years I guess ... Tho if eso could get back to the big crowds in PvP etc like in 2014-17, I guess they would also have enough pvp players that would pay for such a DLC. Another way could be them bringing PvP content alongside a PvE Chapter that kinda all players will buy ...

btw there is one BUG they should fix with macOS if you directly start the game without the launcher my PoV is spinning like crazy (and reload doesn't work, you have to start via launcher again) - but that is just because I am lazy and sleepy ...

Dragonnord · September 2022

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boi_anachronism_ wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

boi_anachronism_ wrote: »

All of these things I have discussed I have reported and several of them I have gotten messages back from zos to say they have been investing fixes.

So ZOS said they are working on them and you complain? Every single game has and will always have bugs, the company already stated they will be fixed and you still complain?

I heard Solitaire and Minesweeper have no bugs. Maybe those work for you.

So the game is fine it's in a good state and then you acknowledge that their are actually bugs that need to be fixed?

You arrived late to the party as clrearly you missed several of my posts where I said that there are bugs but NONE are game-breaking.

No need to stop to fix irrelevant bugs, we need more content coming while bugs are fixed along the way, as always.

Ragnarok0130 · September 2022

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PrimusTiberius wrote: »

Name one digital game that doesn't have bugs......this topic is getting old

It’s not the presence of a few bugs players object to, it the sheer frequency and ubiquity of bugs in ESO. U35 has been particularly egregious in this area.

Dragonnord · September 2022

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[snip]

I just don't want ZOS to waste valuable time on non-game breaking and irrelevant bugs, instead, keep releasing content.

ZOS fixes bugs, constantly, non-stop. [snip]

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PrincessOfThieves · September 2022

If they stop trying to rebalance the whole game every 3 months, there will be enough time to deal with bugs.

jtm1018 · September 2022

Fix Bugs

Hells yes.
Release a new chapter in 1st qtr of the year. And their dlc's in the same qtr.
Use 2nd to 4th qtrs to fix bugs.

Uvi_AUT · September 2022

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Do you consider the power gap a bug? I would be okay with ZOS taking time off to make wurde Damage stays between 20 and 50k. Then they could start fixing those ridiculous Veteran DLCdungeons and go forward having an easier time designing those.
Bugwise I´m okay. I dont really encounter any, besides the ocasional lag.

boi_anachronism_ · September 2022

Fix Bugs

Dragonnord wrote: »

boi_anachronism_ wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

boi_anachronism_ wrote: »

All of these things I have discussed I have reported and several of them I have gotten messages back from zos to say they have been investing fixes.

So ZOS said they are working on them and you complain? Every single game has and will always have bugs, the company already stated they will be fixed and you still complain?

I heard Solitaire and Minesweeper have no bugs. Maybe those work for you.

So the game is fine it's in a good state and then you acknowledge that their are actually bugs that need to be fixed?

You arrived late to the party as clrearly you missed several of my posts where I said that there are bugs but NONE are game-breaking.

No need to stop to fix irrelevant bugs, we need more content coming while bugs are fixed along the way, as always.

Controls not working is a game breaking bug lol. Getting kicked out of content is game breaking. [snip] When a bug prevents you from playing, crashes your game constantly or prevents you from doing/ progressing in content it's game breaking. This isn't like oh a door doesn't work periodically.

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Dragonnord · September 2022

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boi_anachronism_ wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

boi_anachronism_ wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

boi_anachronism_ wrote: »

All of these things I have discussed I have reported and several of them I have gotten messages back from zos to say they have been investing fixes.

So ZOS said they are working on them and you complain? Every single game has and will always have bugs, the company already stated they will be fixed and you still complain?

I heard Solitaire and Minesweeper have no bugs. Maybe those work for you.

So the game is fine it's in a good state and then you acknowledge that their are actually bugs that need to be fixed?

You arrived late to the party as clrearly you missed several of my posts where I said that there are bugs but NONE are game-breaking.

No need to stop to fix irrelevant bugs, we need more content coming while bugs are fixed along the way, as always.

Controls not working is a game breaking bug lol. Getting kicked out of content is game breaking. [snip] When a bug prevents you from playing, crashes your game constantly or prevents you from doing/ progressing in content it's game breaking. This isn't like oh a door doesn't work periodically.

Oh! And what game in this world doesn't have bugs, crashes and so? Every SINGLE game in this planet.

Still, you want ESO to stop producing content for a while to fix stuff that every game has and will have for the eternity of gaming?

Bugs were, are and will be around always, sometimes even the same bugs will return, so ZOS can't stop to fix something that will be always here.

Bugs are fixed as the game moves on, with weekly maintenance or when big patches are released, [snip]

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ATomiX69 · September 2022

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The only way to force people to spend money is to push new content, and a business needs people who spend their money, now go figure.
No matter how bad the game is theres plenty of diehard TES fans or actual addicts who dont know how to cut their losses, which will play it regardless and pay for everything new that comes out.

Dragonnord · September 2022

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boi_anachronism_ wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

boi_anachronism_ wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

boi_anachronism_ wrote: »

All of these things I have discussed I have reported and several of them I have gotten messages back from zos to say they have been investing fixes.

So ZOS said they are working on them and you complain? Every single game has and will always have bugs, the company already stated they will be fixed and you still complain?

I heard Solitaire and Minesweeper have no bugs. Maybe those work for you.

So the game is fine it's in a good state and then you acknowledge that their are actually bugs that need to be fixed?

You arrived late to the party as clrearly you missed several of my posts where I said that there are bugs but NONE are game-breaking.

No need to stop to fix irrelevant bugs, we need more content coming while bugs are fixed along the way, as always.

Controls not working is a game breaking bug lol. Getting kicked out of content is game breaking. [snip] When a bug prevents you from playing, crashes your game constantly or prevents you from doing/ progressing in content it's game breaking. This isn't like oh a door doesn't work periodically.

[snip]

A game-breaking bug is, let's put an example, players loot containers in a city and every single container contains 100k gold inside every time it respawns, so every single player starts making thousands, millions of gold by just looting bugged containers and the game economy breaks.

OR, let's say a potion bought to the merchant at AD base (Cyrodiil) is bugged and gives 100 times its regular buffs, so players from AD faction buy that potion and destroy DC and EP faction in Cyrodiil, breaking the PvP system.

Those are game-braking bugs, not the common examples you provided.

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shadyjane62 · September 2022

Fix Bugs

Been stuck in combat for years. Would be alright if I could actually fight while stuck in combat.

boi_anachronism_ · September 2022

Fix Bugs

Dragonnord wrote: »

boi_anachronism_ wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

boi_anachronism_ wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

boi_anachronism_ wrote: »

All of these things I have discussed I have reported and several of them I have gotten messages back from zos to say they have been investing fixes.

So ZOS said they are working on them and you complain? Every single game has and will always have bugs, the company already stated they will be fixed and you still complain?

I heard Solitaire and Minesweeper have no bugs. Maybe those work for you.

So the game is fine it's in a good state and then you acknowledge that their are actually bugs that need to be fixed?

You arrived late to the party as clrearly you missed several of my posts where I said that there are bugs but NONE are game-breaking.

No need to stop to fix irrelevant bugs, we need more content coming while bugs are fixed along the way, as always.

Controls not working is a game breaking bug lol. Getting kicked out of content is game breaking. [snip] When a bug prevents you from playing, crashes your game constantly or prevents you from doing/ progressing in content it's game breaking. This isn't like oh a door doesn't work periodically.

Oh! And what game in this world doesn't have bugs, crashes and so? Every SINGLE game in this planet.

Still, you want ESO to stop producing content for a while to fix stuff that every game has and will have for the eternity of gaming?

Bugs were, are and will be around always, sometimes even the same bugs will return, so ZOS can't stop to fix something that will be always here.

Bugs are fixed as the game moves on, with weekly maintenance or when big patches are released, [snip]

[snip] There are plenty of games that don't have bugs like that. Ffs friggin pokemon doesn't have bugs like that straight crash the game every hour. I can think of console games going all the way back to Dreamcast that didn't have bugs like that. [snip] Zos shouldn't fix bugs cause they will always be there? What? My laundry is always gonna be there too bud. I still gotta do it regularly. [snip] I'm not asking you to fix a bloody door, I'm asking them to fix things that ACTIVELY prevent you from playing the content. [snip]

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Dragonnord · September 2022

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boi_anachronism_ wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

boi_anachronism_ wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

boi_anachronism_ wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

boi_anachronism_ wrote: »

All of these things I have discussed I have reported and several of them I have gotten messages back from zos to say they have been investing fixes.

So ZOS said they are working on them and you complain? Every single game has and will always have bugs, the company already stated they will be fixed and you still complain?

I heard Solitaire and Minesweeper have no bugs. Maybe those work for you.

So the game is fine it's in a good state and then you acknowledge that their are actually bugs that need to be fixed?

You arrived late to the party as clrearly you missed several of my posts where I said that there are bugs but NONE are game-breaking.

No need to stop to fix irrelevant bugs, we need more content coming while bugs are fixed along the way, as always.

Controls not working is a game breaking bug lol. Getting kicked out of content is game breaking. You CLEARLY do not understand what constitutes game breaking. When a bug prevents you from playing, crashes your game constantly or prevents you from doing/ progressing in content it's game breaking. This isn't like oh a door doesn't work periodically. 😂

Oh! And what game in this world doesn't have bugs, crashes and so? Every SINGLE game in this planet.

Still, you want ESO to stop producing content for a while to fix stuff that every game has and will have for the eternity of gaming?

Bugs were, are and will be around always, sometimes even the same bugs will return, so ZOS can't stop to fix something that will be always here.

Bugs are fixed as the game moves on, with weekly maintenance or when big patches are released, so stop complaining, be comprehensive, be patient and move on you too.

[snip] There are plenty of games that don't have bugs like that. Ffs friggin pokemon doesn't have bugs like that straight crash the game every hour. I can think of console games going all the way back to Dreamcast that didn't have bugs like that. [snip] Zos shouldn't fix bugs cause they will always be there? What? My laundry is always gonna be there too bud. I still gotta do it regularly. [snip] I'm not asking you to fix a bloody door, I'm asking them to fix things that ACTIVELY prevent you from playing the content. [snip]

[snip] Tell me what part I said ZOS should not fix bugs?

I said ZOS should not stop content producing as bugs are fixed along the way (with weekly maintenances and big patches as always).

[snip]

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Rex-Umbra · September 2022

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Take a year off from PvE and focus on PvP.

Agenericname · September 2022

Rex-Umbra wrote: »

Take a year off from PvE and focus on PvP.

Does that mean no combat changes in PvE for a year?

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AvalonRanger · September 2022

Fix Bugs

ZOS never fix group dungeon door bug even in 2022.
I wasted 1 queue last night again. Tremendous players keep complaining
about this major bug. But it still remains.

blue_peaceful_Manticore · September 2022

Since when "resolve" bugs give them money!?
It's all about $$$$$$ and solved bugs make them spend time/developers and PAY (spend money) and this is100% again't the intencion in here. Make profit.

Add new content = money
Solve bug = Lost money

Add new items = Money
leave bugs alone = Players get out (they already spend money) now they spend 0
And call for new player = Bring fresh money

Fata1moose · September 2022

They already do both simultaneously. What are 3D artists and level designers going to work on if they arbitrarily pause overland content?

Zephiran23 · September 2022

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If the people responsible for bug fixes are all the same as those creating new content, the team is a lot smaller than I'd imagined. From explanations given recently it would seem they are different teams. Personally I want new content to keep me interested, the bugs are there, but for the most part everything is playable and those bugs are a hindrancce rather than things that prevent me playing at all.

subarctic · September 2022