Would you be OK with ZOS not releasing 1 or 2 content updates and fixed bugs instead?

kargen27 · September 2022

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PrimusTiberius wrote: »

Name one digital game that doesn't have bugs......this topic is getting old

Pong was pretty solid.

Savina · September 2022

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I don't understand why ZoS can't do both.

AzuraFan · September 2022

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While there are bugs in the game, I don't think it's so buggy that they need to stop creating new content to fix everything.

They should be fixing bugs all the time, and from the patch notes, they're doing that.

Alinhbo_Tyaka · September 2022

I don't think much would make any difference given the history of the performance changes as that issue is still nowhere close to being resolved and the supposed resolution broke many other things.

colossalvoids · September 2022

After getting such chapters recently I'd take anything over em, dungeon ones are fine otherwise.

M0ntie · September 2022

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I’d much rather have bugs fixed and QOL improvements. For goodness sake stop with the combat overhauls. Having to figure out AGAIN and AGAIN skills, rotation, gear is so boring and frustrating. Already more overland content than I can be bothered doing - all the npcs just blur into unengaging quest markers.

Dragonnord · September 2022

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What bugs?

Name one bug that is game breaking. In fact, name a bug of medium importance that needs to be fixed asap.

The game is in a solid state.

kargen27 · September 2022

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M0ntie wrote: »

I’d much rather have bugs fixed and QOL improvements. For goodness sake stop with the combat overhauls. Having to figure out AGAIN and AGAIN skills, rotation, gear is so boring and frustrating. Already more overland content than I can be bothered doing - all the npcs just blur into unengaging quest markers.

The combat overhauls are part of their attempt at fixing the game. Combat changes and new content are not the same thing. Probably different teams working on those aspects of the game.

DarcyMardin · September 2022

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Release content AND fix bugs is what they ought to be doing. And stop changing everything every 3 months!

Dr_Con · September 2022

Different arms of the company work on different things. Are you going to tell the writers to start fixing mara's balm?

I'm actually satisfied with recent DLC, I hope they keep putting out more content but at the same time it is indeed frustrating seeing the same old bugs and no reason given to why they persist

M0ntie · September 2022

Fix Bugs

How about fixing dungeon finder? It gets more and more broken.
And if the combat changes were them trying to fix the game, they’re doing the opposite. In attempting to raise the floor, they nerfed low dps players needing to be buffed.

Jusey1 · September 2022

Fix Bugs

Fix bugs, tiny things especially do bother me. Like Ember's missing eyelids.

h9dlb · September 2022

Fix Bugs

They could put bug fixes in the crown store or 5 million seals of endeavours then everyone is happy

N00BxV1 · September 2022

Fix Bugs

h9dlb wrote: »

They could put bug fixes in the crown store or 5 million seals of endeavours then everyone is happy

Uh, no... We have and still do pay for their product/service, it is their responsibility to fix any problems that they create along the way. What's to keep them from intentionally creating more problems just to get people to pay more?

If you go to McDonald's and they give you a half-cooked hamburger, it isn't your responsibility to pay for that hamburger again, it's their responsibility to fix the problem. If you pay an Electrician to wire your home but the power doesn't work afterwards, it isn't your responsibility to pay again, it's their responsibility to fix the problem. And so on...

MikeSkyrim333 · September 2022

Fix Bugs

Dragonnord wrote: »

What bugs?

Name one bug that is game breaking. In fact, name a bug of medium importance that needs to be fixed asap.

The game is in a solid state.

I can't properly answer cause I am in combat

The Uninvited · September 2022

What year is this? 2015?

AvalonRanger · September 2022

Fix Bugs

The Uninvited wrote: »

What year is this? 2015?

LoL. I was beta tester in 2014.

LikiLoki · September 2022

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Instead of a new chapter and DLC, I want the game engine to be updated and improved throughout the year. And then I'll wait another year until they redraw, update and populate all the old locations, filling them with new content and new features: changing seasons, dynamic environments, underwater locations with swimming.

AvalonRanger · September 2022

Fix Bugs

LikiLoki wrote: »

Instead of a new chapter and DLC, I want the game engine to be updated and improved throughout the year. And then I'll wait another year until they redraw, update and populate all the old locations, filling them with new content and new features: changing seasons, dynamic environments, underwater locations with swimming.

...And making new hilarious bugs with "new engine". Sigh.

mzprx · September 2022

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Danikat wrote: »

...How about reading the entire post instead of part of one sentence?

The idea in the OP which I was responding to was not whether or not they currently prioritise the most important bugs to fix first but whether they should put everything else on hold while they fix them. The fragment you quoted was part of me saying there's no need to do only one or the other because they currently do both and when they tried to draw more attention to their bug fixes it didn't achieve anything.

I know it's easier to respond if you pull something out of context and pretend it was making a different point, but all it really achieves is making your post irrelevant to the overall discussion because you're then responding to the wrong issue.

i did read your whole post and i did understand what you meant. my apologies if it looked like i just took one part out of context. that's on me. what i meant to say was that they prioritise fixing two kinds of issues -

Crown Store (the utmost priority)
issues that directly prevent people from playing

everything else is secondary. now, they do fix other issues as well, like incorrectly hyphenated monster names. or outfit issues. but that is exactly what i wanted to point out. they rarely fix serious bugs. if you look at the list of bug fixes it's all something you haven't encountered in game or something silly and easy to fix. but problems that affect everyone (like dungeon finder bugged, so if you queue for a Random Normal dungeon sometimes you don't get ported in the dungeon whilst everyone else is. but they show as offline in the group menu and if you can't communicate with them in some way you will never know which dungeon they're in and thus never get to finish that Random Normal dungeon. your only option is to leave, wait until your "deserter penalty" expires and then try again. this has been in the game for 2 or 3 patches now, if not longer) are being ignored. so my whole idea is this - instead of a two-dungeon DLC they should take the game code apart, find these big and long time ignored issues and fix them..

they say they fix game issues. and they put a (sometimes) long list of "bug fixes" in the patch notes. but why is the weapon surfing bug still alive and kicking? or why can you get this kind of hilarious debuff?

and many more. i would gladly not have two new dungeons if i never had to encounter these bugs any more..

Idinuse · September 2022

Fix Bugs

Yes.

Amottica · September 2022

mzprx wrote: »

Danikat wrote: »

...How about reading the entire post instead of part of one sentence?

The idea in the OP which I was responding to was not whether or not they currently prioritise the most important bugs to fix first but whether they should put everything else on hold while they fix them. The fragment you quoted was part of me saying there's no need to do only one or the other because they currently do both and when they tried to draw more attention to their bug fixes it didn't achieve anything.

I know it's easier to respond if you pull something out of context and pretend it was making a different point, but all it really achieves is making your post irrelevant to the overall discussion because you're then responding to the wrong issue.

they say they fix game issues. and they put a (sometimes) long list of "bug fixes" in the patch notes. but why is the weapon surfing bug still alive and kicking? or why can you get this kind of hilarious debuff?

and many more. i would gladly not have two new dungeons if i never had to encounter these bugs any more..

Yet those who create those dungeons have nothing to do with these bugs and most of that team lacks the skills required to determine the source of the bugs and correct them. They have very different skill sets which is why such ideas as what is presented here are unworkable unless Zenimax wants to pay people to sit around and do nothing or lay them off.

AvalonRanger · September 2022

Fix Bugs

My verdict of ESO score in 2022 status is 3/10.

>Great Elder Scrolls atmosphere = positive 10/10
>Worst action game I've ever played = negative -5 point
>Hilarious bugs always = negative -2 point

So, it's a 3/10.

IZZEFlameLash · September 2022

Fix Bugs

Dragonnord wrote: »

What bugs?

Name one bug that is game breaking. In fact, name a bug of medium importance that needs to be fixed asap.

The game is in a solid state.

Oh boy, where to start... perma in-combat literally makes it impossible to progress unless your groupmates are able to pull you through to boss fight, Cyrodiil becomes marathon running track. Skills not firing that can be the death of you. Random crashes that some people still experiences and etc. Surely, bug-free game indeed, yes.

Charon_on_Vacation · September 2022

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regardless of what the consumer base is thinking, zos would not be okay with it.
new releases drive sales, that is all that matters.

AvalonRanger · September 2022

Fix Bugs

Maybe...we shouldn't report critical bug information for the developer anymore.

Well, people will do dangerous exploiting, or some player will leave from ESO because
of disgusting bugs and strange patch. Then, so be it. Our sincerity will be ignored anyway.

Dragonnord · September 2022

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MikeSkyrim333 wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

What bugs?

Name one bug that is game breaking. In fact, name a bug of medium importance that needs to be fixed asap.

The game is in a solid state.

I can't properly answer cause I am in combat

Sure! Game braking and so important is that bug that has been there almost forever and have survived millions of battles.

PvP has been empty for 6 years because of that bug, right?

Rejected.

Dragonnord · September 2022

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IZZEFlameLash wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

What bugs?

Name one bug that is game breaking. In fact, name a bug of medium importance that needs to be fixed asap.

The game is in a solid state.

Oh boy, where to start... perma in-combat literally makes it impossible to progress unless your groupmates are able to pull you through to boss fight, Cyrodiil becomes marathon running track. Skills not firing that can be the death of you. Random crashes that some people still experiences and etc. Surely, bug-free game indeed, yes.

Perma in-combat in PvE? Where? In Wayrest Sewers because people aggro and don't kill the crocodiles in first room, so they remain in combat and then think the door is bugged?
Also, if you are in a group and your team mates are in combat it's logic you are in combat too (it's a group), so wait until they finish or you'll be pulled if it's a boss.

I answered the Cyrodiil in-combat bug above already.

Skills not firing? When? Time your animation cancelling better then and don't send two requests at the same time for hurring your clicks. If you do that, I'll assure you 100% that every single skill will fire. Just don't hurry them or learn to know their cast times and timings.

Random crashes? When it's ZOS fault they fix them asap in weekly maintenances.
Otherwise, show me proof that is the game and not addons or potato machines causing them and we'll talk.

mzprx · September 2022

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Dragonnord wrote: »

...Sure! Game braking and so important is that bug that has been almost forever and have survived millions of battles.

PvP has been empty for 10 years because of that bug, right?

Rejected.

have you ever heard of World of Tanks? i play it from time to time. one of the most toxic, broken PTW games out there. and still one of the most played games ever. players will put up with a lot of negative stuff if they like the game. so even though the never ending "in combat" bug exists it doesn't mean the game is going to be empty. it's just very frustrating. and one of those bugs that have endured in the game for a long time..

Dragonnord wrote: »

IZZEFlameLash wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

What bugs?

Name one bug that is game breaking. In fact, name a bug of medium importance that needs to be fixed asap.

The game is in a solid state.

Oh boy, where to start... perma in-combat literally makes it impossible to progress unless your groupmates are able to pull you through to boss fight, Cyrodiil becomes marathon running track. Skills not firing that can be the death of you. Random crashes that some people still experiences and etc. Surely, bug-free game indeed, yes.

Perma in-combat in PvE? Where? In Wayrest Sewers because people aggro and don't kill the crocodiles in first room, so they remain in combat and then think the door is bugged?
Also, if you are in a group and your team mates are in combat it's logic you are in combat too (it's a group), so wait until they finish or you'll be pulled if it's a boss.

I answered the Cyrodiil in-combat bug above already.

Skills not firing? When? Time your animation cancelling better then and don't send two requests at the same time for hurring your clicks. If you do that, I'll assure you 100% that every single skill will fire. Just don't hurry them or learn to know their cast times and timings.

Random crashes? When it's ZOS fault they fix them asap in weekly maintenances.
Otherwise, show me proof that is the game and not addons or potato machines causing them and we'll talk.

i have encountered being stuck in permanent combat in Deshaan a couple of days ago. for no reason. it's not just Wayrest Sewers..

you have answered the Cyrodiil combat bug above, but that answer doesn't make sense. if a bug exists in the game and it's not been fixed in years there's something wrong with the developers. they are either lazy or they don't know how to fix it. but if such bug exists you can not say the game is in a "solid state". if you haven't encountered this particular bug you haven't been to Cyrodiil enough..

if you go to YT you can find a lot of videos where skills or abilities weren't firing. one of the funnier ones -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGpPDv6r6nI

and regarding the random crashes, i will try to have a couple of friends to visit this thread and tell you about their experience. they are not using any addons, have decent PCs and yet they randomly crash every-now-and-then..

i understand that if you don't encounter these issues on a daily basis it's hard to believe all this. but this is the reality of the game now. it's not just one person talking about this. not two, or three. so there is an issue here and turning a blind eye is not going to help anything..

Parasaurolophus · September 2022

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What bugs bother you so much that you want the game to stop having updates?