Add a upgrade "to furnished" option for house purchases.

TheGreatBlackBear · September 2022

Once you buy a home unfurnished you are forever precluded from buying the furnished versions of the home. And if you were to individually buy the items in the housing tab (if they're even available) it would be prohibitively expensive to the point where you probably won't bother. I remember this happening to me when I bought Hunter's Glade unfurnished and months later spending more than the difference between the unfurnished and furnished versions to buy the Hircine Statue of Bitter Mercy alone. So why not add an upgrade to furnished option?

jle30303 · September 2022

The thing about "upgrade to furnished" is, how does the game take account of whether you have or haven't placed furniture already in the actual locations that would be affected by an "upgrade to furnished"? And if you've bought "unfurnished", then placed something in the furnished position, and then go for "upgrade to furnished", what happens to the actual furniture that you've already placed?

("It goes into your inventory" - what if you don't have inventory space? "It goes into your bank / storage chests" - what if there's not enough space there either. "It gets pushed aside automatically" - How does the game determine where to put it, and what happens if you want to find your own placed furniture again, after it's been replaced by the "automatically placed furnishings"?)

Now, I think that would be a bad idea.

However, what I think would be a very GOOD idea is "purchase the Furnished version directly for gold". It would be a major gold sink, which the game desperately needs... I doubt that buying Furnished versions of base-game gold-purchasable homes is even that much of a Crown sink (compared to, for example, buying ready-furnished versions - or even unfurnished versions - of premium Crown-only homes: and compared to buying the unfurnished versions of base-game homes, which can be done with gold instead of crowns.)

SpacemanSpiff1 · September 2022

jle30303 wrote: »

The thing about "upgrade to furnished" is, how does the game take account of whether you have or haven't placed furniture already in the actual locations that would be affected by an "upgrade to furnished"?

Now, I think that would be a bad idea. However, what I think would be a very GOOD idea is "purchase the Furnished version directly for gold". It would be a major gold sink, which the game desperately needs... I doubt that buying Furnished versions of base-game gold-purchasable homes is that much of a Crown sink (compared to, for example, buying ready-furnished versions - or even unfurnished versions - of premium Crown-only homes.)

if the objective is just to get the furnishings the house would have come with, they could just be added into your inventory via a coffer.

i agree that more houses and furnishings should be available through gold.

TheGreatBlackBear · September 2022

jle30303 wrote: »

The thing about "upgrade to furnished" is, how does the game take account of whether you have or haven't placed furniture already in the actual locations that would be affected by an "upgrade to furnished"?

Now, I think that would be a bad idea. However, what I think would be a very GOOD idea is "purchase the Furnished version directly for gold". It would be a major gold sink, which the game desperately needs... I doubt that buying Furnished versions of base-game gold-purchasable homes is that much of a Crown sink (compared to, for example, buying ready-furnished versions - or even unfurnished versions - of premium Crown-only homes.)

@jle30303 when choosing such an option the items could go into your inventory. Just like when you buy a regular furnishing pack. I recognise It'd suck for you to relocate and place the items potentially tho.

SilverBride · September 2022

They could just sell the furnishings that come with the furnished version of a house separately as a furnishing pack on the Crown Store.

Those who don't want to pay with crowns can buy crowns in game with gold and have the furnishing packs gifted to them.

Nestor · September 2022

TheGreatBlackBear wrote: »

jle30303 wrote: »

The thing about "upgrade to furnished" is, how does the game take account of whether you have or haven't placed furniture already in the actual locations that would be affected by an "upgrade to furnished"?

Now, I think that would be a bad idea. However, what I think would be a very GOOD idea is "purchase the Furnished version directly for gold". It would be a major gold sink, which the game desperately needs... I doubt that buying Furnished versions of base-game gold-purchasable homes is that much of a Crown sink (compared to, for example, buying ready-furnished versions - or even unfurnished versions - of premium Crown-only homes.)

@jle30303 when choosing such an option the items could go into your inventory. Just like when you buy a regular furnishing pack. I recognise It'd suck for you to relocate and place the items potentially tho.

Issue is, a lot of houses have more than 200 items in the furnished version so this would overwhelm most character inventories. To that end, how could they choose which alt gets this. They could email a coffer, but those might have inventory restrictions. And they would have to create this for each and every home.

jle30303 · September 2022

It's not just getting the furnishings, it's having them be ready-placed, that I would happily pay extra gold for.

kargen27 · September 2022

Offer it with the caveat that any furniture in the house that didn't come with the house will be removed from the game before the new furniture arrives.

Basically your version of the home is being completely replaced with the furnished version.

FluffWit · September 2022

Have a look at the "furnished" versions of all the existing houses. You'll change your mind about wanting ZOS to do this real quick.

Now if there was a way we could get some of our amazing player decorators to do it- that could be fun. Not as crazy as it sounds- EA/ Maxis outsourced decorating most of the assets in its The Sims 4 dlcs to the community years ago.

spartaxoxo · September 2022

Nestor wrote: »

TheGreatBlackBear wrote: »

jle30303 wrote: »

The thing about "upgrade to furnished" is, how does the game take account of whether you have or haven't placed furniture already in the actual locations that would be affected by an "upgrade to furnished"?

Now, I think that would be a bad idea. However, what I think would be a very GOOD idea is "purchase the Furnished version directly for gold". It would be a major gold sink, which the game desperately needs... I doubt that buying Furnished versions of base-game gold-purchasable homes is that much of a Crown sink (compared to, for example, buying ready-furnished versions - or even unfurnished versions - of premium Crown-only homes.)

@jle30303 when choosing such an option the items could go into your inventory. Just like when you buy a regular furnishing pack. I recognise It'd suck for you to relocate and place the items potentially tho.

Issue is, a lot of houses have more than 200 items in the furnished version so this would overwhelm most character inventories. To that end, how could they choose which alt gets this. They could email a coffer, but those might have inventory restrictions. And they would have to create this for each and every home.

A coffer takes up only 1 inventory slot, and it would be sent to the character that purchased the item same as pretty much every single other purchase in the crown store. Just put the furnishing pack as a one time purchase in the crown store. On purchase, you get the coffer.

Easy and simple.

katanagirl1 · September 2022

SilverBride wrote: »

They could just sell the furnishings that come with the furnished version of a house separately as a furnishing pack on the Crown Store.

Those who don't want to pay with crowns can buy crowns in game with gold and have the furnishing packs gifted to them.

The last 2-3 items I wanted to buy for crowns instead of gold I could not find anyone in my guild who was selling crowns. I have also noticed that guild traders even in the capital cities aren’t getting new items and have had the same stuff for weeks or even months. I have to sell at much lower prices to get stuff to move.

I think the economy on PS NA is suffering for lack of players with means right now.

Paulytnz · September 2022

I agree with this idea.

You guys are arguing about the technicalities of how it can be done - leave that up to ZOS. They could simply give several boxes for your inventory tho. Split the furniture up among these boxes so that opening any 1 of them wont go over the 200 (215 with those pets) inv limit. Not hard to think up something just after a few mins.

spartaxoxo · September 2022

katanagirl1 wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

They could just sell the furnishings that come with the furnished version of a house separately as a furnishing pack on the Crown Store.

Those who don't want to pay with crowns can buy crowns in game with gold and have the furnishing packs gifted to them.

The last 2-3 items I wanted to buy for crowns instead of gold I could not find anyone in my guild who was selling crowns. I have also noticed that guild traders even in the capital cities aren’t getting new items and have had the same stuff for weeks or even months. I have to sell at much lower prices to get stuff to move.

I think the economy on PS NA is suffering for lack of players with means right now.

I think the increasing prices on the gold sinks (such as lux furniture or the new antiquity achievement furnishings) has had a negative impact on our economy too. They are calibrated the way they are due to PC's economy, but PC players prices are much higher (and they tend to have much more coin) than PS players. So, they are too steep for the amount we're generating.

Paulytnz wrote: »

I agree with this idea.

You guys are arguing about the technicalities of how it can be done - leave that up to ZOS. They could simply give several boxes for your inventory tho. Split the furniture up among these boxes so that opening any 1 of them wont go over the 200 (215 with those pets) inv limit. Not hard to think up something just after a few mins.

Good idea, the furniture is already broken by down by category anyway. Could be Bastian Sanguinaris' Conservatory Furnishings...etc.

jle30303 · September 2022

Remember also: Even an "unfurnished" place still has SOME furnishings, just fewer than a "furnished" one. For example, Grand Topal Hideaway has 134 furnishings even when "unfurnished" and over 200 more when "furnished". What if a player *removes* the furnishings from the "unfurnished" and then wants to upgrade to the "furnished" version?

Getting a pack of 200+ furnishings that were NOT placed, would be just annoying, since you'd have to place them all personally. The joy of buying a furnished thing is in having them ready-placed for you.

But in that case, what happens to stuff you've added AND stuff you've removed? Does the latter get replaced? What if you've added something in a place where something else goes?

It just wouldn't work unless the player has literally never altered it since purchasing the unfurnished version. One single alteration could foul up the whole attempt to go from unfurnished to furnished, and remember, this is Elder Scrolls we're talking about, there's never just ONE bug.

The ability to buy ready-furnished places with gold, though... that would still interest me.

M0ntie · September 2022

Being able to purchase the furnishings in a coffer seems the answer. Either from the crown store for crowns, or from the house zone furnishing vendor for gold.
Perhaps the house could give the option to unpack the coffer if the house were emptied and that would place all the furnishings in the default places.

psychotrip · September 2022

And if you were to individually buy the items in the housing tab (if they're even available) it would be prohibitively expensive

Yeah, that's why they'll never do this. Nothing is too expensive for a whale. Thats who the cash shop is made for.

Why would they ever make it so you're LESS likely to spend MORE money?

Your experience is irrelevant to them so long as you keep playing, and so long as the whales keep paying.