BoraBora wrote: »

One idea I had is why not be able to flag your char as "non PvP competing" that way you could pass gates to collect sky shards and maybe even do quests but you can't participate in any sort of PvP or conquer anything.

It's a PvP zone. The risk of going there is PvP happening to you, it's up to you to decide if it's worth the risk. You literally do not need to go there, there's more than enough skyshards and skill points in the rest of the game. There's no zone quest that's not "how 2 do PvP", the town quests and random quests you find out and about are just randon dailies that have little to no story to them. There's seriously no need for PvErs to have the kind of FOMO they do about Cyrodiil.

It's a big, empty zone that you'll spend a lot of time riding across with very, very little to show for it and in the end you'll just feel a little disappointed that you ruined your memory of Cyrodiil in Oblivion for this vast, empty, deer-less space.

But you know, if you want to go there and do the quests and get the skyshards, etc. then... it's a PvP zone and you bear that risk, which, if people exercise even a tiny bit of brain power it's ridiculously easy to avoid in any way, shape or form.

I have seldom seen the EP take over the board in the "Blackreach" campaign on EU servers...

...However I got the skyshards behind the DC gates with an EP character, in an AD-dominated evening. They had been in, stolen the DC scroll, got out and were long gone, and I was in stealth some way from the outside, then as soon as the AD guys were gone, I (wimpy EP character) rode past the DC guards on a very fast horse. They did some damage to me but I got outside of their range and they ran back to the gate, I was able to grab the skyshard (and the eidetic memory documents) at leisure.

I had to race past the guards on the way out as well because letting them kill me would not have worked since EP did not hold a nearby base to respawn at.

And for me, the worst thing about PVP is just how many Alliance Points you need to rank it up, and how few you get from killing players even if you're good at it (which I am not), and how few actual players are THERE in Cyrodiil. I think I am at level 21 and really don't see a prospect of getting to 50 even if I can zerg along with the capture of (or defence of) a few hotly contested keeps, because a lot of the time they're not actually hotly contested - it's easier to let it fall, wait till the enemy has run away (or on to the next one) and then PvDoor the now vacant keep.

BoraBora wrote: »

And for me, the worst thing about PVP is just how many Alliance Points you need to rank it up, and how few you get from killing players even if you're good at it (which I am not)

Are you in the under 50 zone ? That tends to be very quiet and a lot of under 50 players just go into the main campaign. Even in the big zones however most of the people are in groups in relatively few moving spots. An LFG request will generally find you a group in the main campaigns.

Killing players isn't the big AP gain - completing the quests is, along with repairing walls and the like. If you are part of a big siege you can earn a lot of AP quite fast.

barney2525 wrote: »

Caupo wrote: »

Just make a new level10 ebonheart pact character, collect all Cyrodil skyshards in ebonheart pact side, and unlock them via crown store for main character. easiest way and not that expensive crown-wise

Does Cyradil have 3 separate Crown skyshard purchases? If not, one character has to get All the shards to get the achievement.

Is that still the case with AWA? I got mine long ago so I can't check.

DinoZavr wrote: »

(like Direfrost Keep)

Direfrost is easily solo'd if you know how to get around the pressure plates.

Snamyap wrote: »

barney2525 wrote: »

Caupo wrote: »

Just make a new level10 ebonheart pact character, collect all Cyrodil skyshards in ebonheart pact side, and unlock them via crown store for main character. easiest way and not that expensive crown-wise

Does Cyradil have 3 separate Crown skyshard purchases? If not, one character has to get All the shards to get the achievement.

Is that still the case with AWA? I got mine long ago so I can't check.

AWA gives the achievement, not the actual skyshard. Only matters if you are ultimately short on points.

barney2525 wrote: »

renne wrote: »

barney2525 wrote: »

Caupo wrote: »

Just make a new level10 ebonheart pact character, collect all Cyrodil skyshards in ebonheart pact side, and unlock them via crown store for main character. easiest way and not that expensive crown-wise

Does Cyradil have 3 separate Crown skyshard purchases? If not, one character has to get All the shards to get the achievement.

It does. There's also a 46th skyshard at the top of a mountain in the EP region that's not included with any of the 3 "alliance" skyshards.

well, then it seems a simple solution would be to have 1 character in each alliance and watch for one side to run the Table for emperor. While that is going on you would be safe to recover skyshards for that faction.

It's super easy to get all the rest of the skyshards that aren't behind the scroll gates no matter who owns the map because they're not near where the fighting is. You don't have to wait.

It's like fishing. PvP players are where the PvP is, not where the fishing holes or skyshards are. The only time you might run into other players is in the delves closest to each home gate because people dip in to get an AP bonus for killing the delve boss, but also that has never happened to me in any of the times I've done skyshards in Cyro.

FeedbackOnly wrote: »

Pvp event makes those skyshards very easy to collect

There 1 public dungeon that is impossible without another player while for the rest a companion should do

Which public dungeon?

So far I only could say that I was left alone while going through a dungeon. But maybe also because the other player was alone or also just there for PvE.
But as for everything else I would say you get killed on sight. Can't confirm that there is any sort of "truce" or "gentleman" agreements":

As for for the shard: I finaly managed to get the last 2 ones. But it was a pain in the a*s as both times it was in the middle of the night when the gates got opened.
So again: Not the best solution for someone who normaly plays in the evenings or afternoons and not that long.
I personaly would prefer a solution with something like a PvE version of that map as instancing is normal in this game, to begin with.

Four_Fingers wrote: »

But it feels so much better after you get it the hard way.

For some, maybe.

I haven't bothered getting all skyshards (PVE or PVP) on any character as it just doesn't matter (I have way more skill points than I need and achievements are just pointless time sinks) and doing so would just feel like a giant waste of time.

There are actually 4 (1 behind each gate) but I agree, in the big picture it's not a big deal considering there's 500 other shards

Dawnblade wrote: »

Four_Fingers wrote: »

But it feels so much better after you get it the hard way.

For some, maybe.

I haven't bothered getting all skyshards (PVE or PVP) on any character as it just doesn't matter (I have way more skill points than I need and achievements are just pointless time sinks) and doing so would just feel like a giant waste of time.

I recently did get them all in Cyrodiil on one character. Took me 5 years....

I will never earn them all in game, especially since I have far too many alts that are earning them. Charging Crowns for a known item

Jaimeh wrote: »

BoraBora wrote: »

Hello!
stand why some Sky Shards in Cyrodiil are placed in parts of the map that are close to impossible to reach for solo players.
I have especially 2 in mind that are on the territory of the Ebonheart Pact. The only way you could reach them is if the last 2 gates before their "home bases" would be open. And that might be barely the case and would required pretty much a 24/7 observation, to be there at the right moment.

Join a campaign where your alliance has a good control of the map, sooner or later there'll be a scroll snipe attempt, so you can get them then. That's how everyone has done it, and it's really not that bad (fishing for Master Angler in Cyro was much more tiresome, imo). If you absolutely don't want to do that, and still get the skyshards, then there's an alternative faster way (but will cost you IRL money or gold-for-crown exchange): you can swap your faction to EP with a token, get the EP skyshards and swap back. I don't think it's worth it, but just as a heads up.

I will add to this. Once I was killed while inside, which ended up helping me (I am sure that was not their attempt), since I could quickly jump to the other gate instead of running back out.

You can always grab 1 at a time when a gate is open and use the port to IC to get back.

Not as hard as I had thought, even though I despise so much PvP.

As a (mostly) pve player who on their main has every single skyshard in the game, the cyrodiil “gated” ones just require patience. Or some crowns if you wish to hurry up and buy them in the crown store using the multi-character, multi-faction strategy.

The IC skyshards will be the hard to get ones.

For everyone saying the “gated” ones don’t matter, they kind of do matter if you want the skyshard furnishing. Luckily the IC ones are not needed for the furnishing, so you can skip those.

BoraBora wrote: »

Was recently just questing. Obviously only attacking NPCs. Attacked while doing so. Then I was in a house where you can do those PvE quests for getting Alliance points (doing so because I need those for Horse speed boost as the initial Alliance quest did not give me enough to unlock the passive (nerft??)) Got killed in the building just because I was there. This is so annoying!

Why are there even PvE quests in a PvP zone? Can't I have my PvE instances there? PVP player then can do their conquest the flag, kill <amount x> of other player or play gank and greif the noob, or whatever they think is funny. Yes it is obvious that I have bad experiences with PvP. That's why I prefer PvE or Co-Op play!

I kind of agree, but the pve quests in cyrodiil are just not very good. Mostly simple fetch, deliver, or kill/collect ones. They exist for players who enjoy some danger from other players while questing. But really, just skip them unless you are looking for an antiquity lead, you are not missing much.

opalcity wrote: »

BlueRaven wrote: »

The IC skyshards will be the hard to get ones.

I just grabbed all of the IC shards today on my new character. Level 15, in NoCP, and I was in all heavy armour.

Above ground and in the sewers. I just ran to each one, only fighting when I absolutely had to.

Died a few times, but was pretty easy.

Ah! I did not take the under level 50 instance into account. I was thinking of the above 50 cp servers where opposing faction players are more heavily present.