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The new jabs animation -- why tho?
LADYKiLLER
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LOOK AT THIS THIS ANIMATION, HE'S NOT EVEN USING A SPEAR, HE'S USING THE NIGHTHOLLOW STAFF LOL
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SpiderCultist✭✭✭✭✭is that nighthollow staff an ingame style?
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Ashlander and Mephala worshipper.
"You are just another breed of domestic animal, grazing stupidly while higher beings plot your slaughter."2 -
UnabashedlyHonest✭✭✭✭✭To me it says that ZOS is done putting effort into making ESO a better game. If they going to do something this lazy and universally disliked, I don't know how we can interpret it any other way.47 -
adamsmith42✭✭✭✭Yeah... Really fitting for the holy warrior class to be using a vampire weapon....40
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LADYKiLLER✭✭✭UnabashedlyHonest wrote: »To me it says that ZOS is done putting effort into making ESO a better game. If they going to do something this lazy and universally disliked, I don't know how we can interpret it any other way.
It's just bizarre to see because if you're not going to actually make something decent/unique/new, why bother changing it at all? I don't recall hearing much from templars about thinking anything was wrong with the original animation.28 -
Raptor788✭✭It's absolutely ridiculous how low quality the change is overall. Mechanically, I'm happy we don't revolve around one ability anymore, but the animation is SO much worse and feels terrible. And this lazy, ugly "spear" transplant is unnecessary and makes it even worse.
I'm honestly shocked that the team of such a big title couldn't produce something of good quality for the game's own standards.16 -
Neriala✭✭✭This new animation is so ugly, its no fun for me to use this skill anymore, cause best is not to see this animation...and i loved to play my templar :-( i dont know why it has to be changed at all
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notyuu✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭You think the animation is bad? try comparing the output to what it used to be and you'll come up with one word
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✭✭Much has already been said about animation. I can only say that for me this skill has become more convenient to use. Only I can't stop laughing looking at this... But the model! Model! Why ZoS, why? Do you really not have the opportunity to make the original model? Well, or at least something more suitable for a templar like the staff of the Imperial Champion?PC/EU4 -
BahometZ✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I just love how 6+ years into the game NOW they've decided to not just change the animation, but the weight of jabs in a templar rotation. Yes, it is good that jabs is not such a vital crutch, but after literal years of performing the function it does, it's bizarre that they would do this now, and still not provide a functional ranged spammable.Pact Magplar - Max CP (NA XB)19 -
mmtaniac✭✭✭✭✭I love jabs , but new animation is something that is not jabs it's spears not jabs anymore. We need our jabs back or different unique form of spear and graphic changes to other Aedric spear abilities or return with old animation to match with rest of abilities. Changing only one thing is not good enough if rest of skills still look outdated, change every skill or nothing.7 -
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✭✭adamsmith42 wrote: »Yeah... Really fitting for the holy warrior class to be using a vampire weapon....
I think this is what bothers me the most. A vampire motif for an aedric spear - of all the styles they had to choose.6 -
K9002✭✭✭✭✭You wouldn't even know that it's supposed to be a vampire motif if it wasn't named so and connected to harrowstorms. It looks more like elven weapons. And the magicka version of jabs is functionally (not visually) a better vampiric spell than anything in the actual vampire skill line. Of all the things to complain about, you choose to open multiple threads per day about the visuals, while you let the skill's functionality slip through.2 -
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✭✭✭You wouldn't even know that it's supposed to be a vampire motif if it wasn't named so and connected to harrowstorms. It looks more like elven weapons. And the magicka version of jabs is functionally (not visually) a better vampiric spell than anything in the actual vampire skill line. Of all the things to complain about, you choose to open multiple threads per day about the visuals, while you let the skill's functionality slip through.
What does it matter to look at skill nerfs if your red line is the dreadful animation. If you are not willing to look at that pool noodle why bother worrying about nerfs that will not affect you.
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That's exactly my point. I don't much care how the skill looks, as that gets lost among countless other effects, but I do care about the functionality. The damage output was destroyed, and yet everyone keeps complaining about the animation. It's like complaining about a bumper sticker on a car with flat tires.shadyjane62 wrote: »What does it matter to look at skill nerfs if your red line is the dreadful animation. If you are not willing to look at that pool noodle why bother worrying about nerfs that will not affect you.1 -
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✭✭✭I love jabs , but new animation is something that is not jabs it's spears not jabs anymore. We need our jabs back or different unique form of spear and graphic changes to other Aedric spear abilities or return with old animation to match with rest of abilities. Changing only one thing is not good enough if rest of skills still look outdated, change every skill or nothing.
They could have easily changed the timing without changing the animation. Why did they go with a Night Hollow style stave as the "spear"? And why did they make the animation all flailing around instead of sticking with the straight back and forth motion?11 -
SerLoras✭✭✭Every time I see that new animation I die a little inside. They completely ruined my favorite skill in this game that I love.
Obviously, it's just a game, so I am not like laying on the floor sobbing or anything about it, but that doesn't change the fact that every time I see it, it makes me sad.
Thanks ZOS for this totally necessary change...11 -
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✭✭✭✭✭UnabashedlyHonest wrote: »To me it says that ZOS is done putting effort into making ESO a better game. If they going to do something this lazy and universally disliked, I don't know how we can interpret it any other way.
I mean, did you see the DSR trifecta mount... it looks like a colour reskin from the atronach mounts made on MSPaint... But this patch trifecta progs are pretty much on standstill, so it doesn't matter... /o\6 -
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That's exactly my point. I don't much care how the skill looks, as that gets lost among countless other effects, but I do care about the functionality. The damage output was destroyed, and yet everyone keeps complaining about the animation. It's like complaining about a bumper sticker on a car with flat tires.shadyjane62 wrote: »What does it matter to look at skill nerfs if your red line is the dreadful animation. If you are not willing to look at that pool noodle why bother worrying about nerfs that will not affect you.
My point was I don't care about the functionality of a skill I will NEVER use again.4 -
SerLoras✭✭✭UnabashedlyHonest wrote: »To me it says that ZOS is done putting effort into making ESO a better game. If they going to do something this lazy and universally disliked, I don't know how we can interpret it any other way.
I mean, did you see the DSR trifecta mount... it looks like a colour reskin from the atronach mounts made on MSPaint... But this patch trifecta progs are pretty much on standstill, so it doesn't matter... /o\
Making new stuff look kind of meh is one thing, but why spend time and money absolutely ruining the look of one of the coolest skills in the game?9 -
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✭✭It looks horrific. I, as a Templar main of over five years... with over 7,500 hours on my main Templar character... have no desire to ever use this skill again. I actually hate it.Angua Anyammis Ae Sunna10 -
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✭✭✭✭✭LADYKiLLER wrote: »UnabashedlyHonest wrote: »To me it says that ZOS is done putting effort into making ESO a better game. If they going to do something this lazy and universally disliked, I don't know how we can interpret it any other way.
It's just bizarre to see because if you're not going to actually make something decent/unique/new, why bother changing it at all? I don't recall hearing much from templars about thinking anything was wrong with the original animation.
It, and the Flurry change, has to be performance related. Why else would they downgrade the animation? Which is curious because they are usually all over telling us about every little performance buff.
Yet another head scratching decision from this team. Perhaps they will tell us in the promised Q&A, but we would be foolish to expect that.2
