WiseSky wrote: »

Wow this post makes it seams like I am the only non beta player...

The reason I am asking is because some seam to be unhappy because of U35 is taking some dps away from them.

Wanted to know what is the baseline for some of us

Tbh, I bet many of 60k or less people here are before 21m dummy introduced in game.

Back in the days, you only have 3m & 6m dummies without any buff/debuff on them. And before 3m & 6m dummies, people are using bloodspawn for dps testing.

I was only doing 35k~45k dps early days and it's on a 6m dummy (the dps was so different cause some classes can easily debuff dummy with their abilities & even swap to penetration mundus). When 21m dummy released the buff/debuff wasn't that many yet, but I can still deal 85k+ on 21m dummy. 21m dummy nowadays I can hit even higher simply because it got more buffs & debuffs.

Not to mention 21m dummy got 2 more buffs (major slayer buff & minor courage.) on pts, so if your dps have been dropped in pts, that means your dps drop even more in realy fight.

My best friend IRL was the first person I saw hit 1000 DPS. This was way back in summer 2014. He played a NB with a resto staff.

I have honestly no idea. For the first few years of playing I had all zone chat etc turned off and played 100% solo. Being my first MMO I really had no concept of DPS etc. It was only when I joined a guild 3 years or so ago that these concepts came to my attention

I started at horns of the reach and the heavy hitters in our raid team were hitting 50-60k on the 6m dummy. I believe stamblade was pretty meta at that time.

Danikat wrote: »

No idea. When I first started I was worried about things like how to get a mount and whether to try crafting, not precise damage numbers.

Agreed in a sense, i started as a beta tester and have played since and never concerned myself with what numbers i can make flash on screen. If i lived and the bad guy died and i had fun in the process, i was happy.

Comparisons of dps WITHOUT all assumptions and conditions of measurement clearly stated and equalized are useless.

Also, there have been significant changes to the game over time from VR level increases to the introduction of CP to One Tamriel that totally changed the 'numbers', making any comparisons from some arbitrary past time to today equally useless.

INM wrote: »

There is no point of comparing when on release all numbers were an order of magnitude lower and before iron astros existed the different "measurement" system was used.
2k dps from 2014 aren't comparable to 45k on the 3m skeleton from 2016. And those 45k aren't comparable to 100k on the 21m dummy from 2018. Even the 21m dummy isn't exactly the same as it was.

I'm genuinely annoyed when people compare numbers on the trial dummy to the 3m dummy numbers as proof of immense power creep.

55k on iron is about 30k on 6 million as such there's still a power creep.

eh, the game was more broken back then. Yes you could achieve higher dps, but trials weren't even the main focus. people were enjoying and exploring the content rather than focusing on the numbers and what content creators tell them to think.

for example if I had poor ping I could have a pet out as a sorc after switching from my backbar. that alone gives you more dps, they didn't fix this for years lol

I remember when one of my endgame guilds required you to hit 20K and you had to work to get there. Laughable now.

No idea (Spring of 2014)

I couldn't reach above 5k on my very successful PvP builds this was console launch era.

30k was amazing back then