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So, why?

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Seriously, why though? The majority of the playerbase dislikes nearly everything about the changes, and a good number of end-game players have left the game over the last 4 weeks. This was a patch to try to lower the ceiling and raise the floor, but by changing empower, it promotes medium attack weaving which is now dealing more damage than main spammables in many cases;
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This is more damage than light attack weaving was doing, and medium attack weaving is harder to perform than light attack weaving. Then by lowering damage, it lowers the floor of the game. But hey, heavy attacks are better now so newer players can just use that, right?

... But then newer players don't learn proper game mechanics. Heavy attack builds should exist and be plausible as accessibility options, but things like the change to Oakensoul, which is an accessibility item, promote only doing heavy attack builds making people do more damage on average in early and mid game pve, but makes it so those players get stuck at that damage since they aren't learning proper game mechanics. It raises the floor for those in the know, but for everyone else, it lowers the floor significantly.

so I ask again. Why? What was the point of this? ZoS, you were going in a good direction. Why try to drastically change everything all at once, rather than doing small incremental changes every couple of weeks? Why do a 180 and try to change everything, when you could try to better the stuff you've already got going for you? I just don't understand it.
Edited by merpins on August 8, 2022 10:47PM
  • gypsysonb14_ESO
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    While the total number looks right in line with live parses, remember that PTS dummy has extra damage buffs (a couple of major ones). This would be a much lower parse on the live dummy.

    That said, I agree that pushing medium weaving passed light and heavy attacks does not feel good, and it widens that skill gap. They can fix that by making empower only buff fully charged heavy attacks.
    Edited by gypsysonb14_ESO on August 8, 2022 10:51PM
  • merpins
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    Here's a meme from week 1 of the PTS. I would wager the numbers are much higher, and are more weighted in the dislike portion now than this graph:
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    And here's Skinny Cheeks' graph from week 1 of the PTS.
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  • Kusto
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    While the total number looks right in line with live parses, remember that PTS dummy has extra damage buffs (a couple of major ones). This would be a much lower parse on the live dummy.

    That said, I agree that pushing medium weaving passed light and heavy attacks does not feel good, and it widens that skill gap. They can fix that by making empower only buff fully charged heavy attacks.

    The thing is tho that high end groups have all of those buffs in content also while the average/casual groups don't. U35 brings everything the opposite what Zos wanted - increased skill gap and decreased accessibility.
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    Kusto wrote: »
    While the total number looks right in line with live parses, remember that PTS dummy has extra damage buffs (a couple of major ones). This would be a much lower parse on the live dummy.

    That said, I agree that pushing medium weaving passed light and heavy attacks does not feel good, and it widens that skill gap. They can fix that by making empower only buff fully charged heavy attacks.

    The thing is tho that high end groups have all of those buffs in content also while the average/casual groups don't. U35 brings everything the opposite what Zos wanted - increased skill gap and decreased accessibility.

    True. Anyone that's doing end-game content like vet dungeons or vet trials will have most if not all the buffs the dummy has, so the damage is more accurate. The difference is the damage on live is actually higher than shown. The only time this damage is inaccurate is when comparing it to a casual build, like an oakensoul build or a mid or low-tier build. In those cases, the damage is a lot lower than shown. Honestly, it should be 2 different dummies; one with the old buffs and one with the new buffs from this PTS cycle so we can see the impact of both.
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