I know you are right, but i can't help and wonder what is the explanation for what they are doing. Yes. The least that can be done at this point would be to scrap 99% of the update and promise to never behave this way again. But it's like making a legally binding contract with a three year old. Besides, the damage has already been done. Those that have fled to FFXIV or whatever the hell, don't think they're coming back.

PrincessOfThieves wrote: »

To be completely honest, I don't know how it's gonna help. They are determined to push these changes no matter the cost, it seems. The only way to undo the damage (at least partially) at this point is to completely scrap all combat changes, but unfortunately I don't believe they would do that.

You say that, but there have been more official comments and changes on this issue already than we ever got over the AwA changes when they were on PTS.

If the changes were put on on hold we could have a constructive discussion about what changes would be for the better and how to implement them. That would be nice. What won't help one bit is more telling us how our feedback is such a mountain to "sift through" that the changes must just be rushed through on schedule anyway.

As for what the devs want, yes it's a bit hard to understand when the changes do exactly the opposite of everything they said they wanted - except two things, which actually make it quite easy to understand. DPS must go down. HPS must go down. By August 22 or preferably yesterday. That is the only priority. Exactly why is anybody's guess. But making everybody learn new, longer, more complicated rotations will be extremely effective at this for the majority of the player base. Though it will of course be less effective for players who spend hours at the dummy every day anyway.

Edit: I hadn't actually seen the latest post by Gina. Looks like someone wants some consistency between aim and implementation after all. Still doesn't affect my point on rotations unless passives and durations get another, more considered overhaul to actually streamline those long sticky DoTs that were supposed to help players focus on the action.

Just please take your time with this. Deeds matter more than words.

Amottica wrote: »

They did speak to us. Gilliam wrote a response to our feedback about a week ago. It is stickied so should be easy to find. I am not sure what hearing their voices or seeing their faces will add.

I also believe that some people have left. However, the only source of player data we have access to is Steam Charts, and they not only show the same number of players in the past 30 days as it June. More importantly, June numbers, and the past 30 days, are both higher than June and July 2018, which were the last months to compare to the pre-covid surge.

Yes, it would be nice to get more communication. There is no argument there.

Imo that doesn't count. They say one thing do another. I want them to elaborate on what exactly they are trying to do and why it feels they are doing the complete opposite. We were told that they had a vusion...really doesn't feel that way. Just feels like they are killing the game.

washbern wrote: »

Dear ZOS ( @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Gilliam )

Please talk to us. Pick a streamer, do a stream yourself, do something. Come on camera and please, explain to us what is happening. Too many people have left. Many more are leaving. This request i make from the heart. Please talk to us. Because it seems no one here understands what is happening.

Thank you,

Your Customer.

Do not "pick a streamer" please. They will do what they did last time they were rolling out LA/HA changes and hand pick streamers that already are sold on their idea instead of the ones that know the game the best and challenge them. But yes, the talking to us part is needed.

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

We have another update listed here. And there should be additional commentary in PTS 4 patch notes and pts 5 patch notes.

We are working on more communication as well. We are trying to balance that with giving our teams the time they need to read through feedback and work on implementing changes to roll out in next week's PTS.

Thank you so much for the reply Kevin. Very much appreciated!