Perhaps some non-PVP ways for non-PVPers to get some tickets :)

DarrowLykos · July 2022

I do not PVP in this game unless I have to. From time to time I will do a few matches to get some crystals and that is it. SO we should not be forced into PVP events to earn tickets. To top it off there are huge queues to get into Cyrodiil or IC

So now this non-PVPer has to PVP and wait hours to do so.

auz · July 2022

As a pvper, I find overland pve events mind numbingly boring and utterly soul sucking. I don't think it is fair I should be forced to run ridiculous find 3 berries quests just to recieve event tickets. Please can we have a way to recieve tickets without having to take part in said overland tedium?

DarrowLykos · July 2022

auz wrote: »

As a pvper, I find overland pve events mind numbingly boring and utterly soul sucking. I don't think it is fair I should be forced to run ridiculous find 3 berries quests just to recieve event tickets. Please can we have a way to recieve tickets without having to take part in said overland tedium?

Nothing hinders you from doing this though, do you have to wait in long queues to get tickets during normal events? Do you get chased around and mobbed by other players who are there only to grief you while trying to do normal events for tickets? I get it's not all the time, but for those who do not PVP which is not a base/required part of the game to do any kind of PVE one should not be forced to earn tickets in this way. Are the PVPers so hard up for others to fight you will settle for slaughtering those who have no interest in PVP, but would still like those pesky tickets? If someone want to try it out they will, no reason to force an event on it and then make it forced for tickets which they know most want.

francesinhalover · July 2022

Isnt there 1 pve daily in cyro? Bruma? has one i think. Its daggerfall zone all the way up there

Dem_kitkats1 · July 2022

The queues don't seem to be that bad. I got into a campaign within seconds during primetime today.

dinokstrunz · July 2022

DarrowLykos wrote: »

auz wrote: »

As a pvper, I find overland pve events mind numbingly boring and utterly soul sucking. I don't think it is fair I should be forced to run ridiculous find 3 berries quests just to recieve event tickets. Please can we have a way to recieve tickets without having to take part in said overland tedium?

Nothing hinders you from doing this though, do you have to wait in long queues to get tickets during normal events? Do you get chased around and mobbed by other players who are there only to grief you while trying to do normal events for tickets? I get it's not all the time, but for those who do not PVP which is not a base/required part of the game to do any kind of PVE one should not be forced to earn tickets in this way. Are the PVPers so hard up for others to fight you will settle for slaughtering those who have no interest in PVP, but would still like those pesky tickets? If someone want to try it out they will, no reason to force an event on it and then make it forced for tickets which they know most want.

Nobody is forcing you to get the tickets, don't like it don't do it. There's plenty of other events for people who dislike PvP. I'll fight whoever is in front of me in PvP anyone is fair game.

Freelancer_ESO · July 2022

For future PvP events, the easy way to get tickets is to do the quests for the event before the event starts but, don't turn them in on multiple alts.

Then, when the event becomes active turn the quests in each day for the tickets.

The PvP areas with quests are generally dead outside of peak hours outside of events so it's easy to get the quests done in advance.

The length of the PvP Queue depends on the area you select. Many of them are quite fast even during the event so you might want to look at the traffic level before queuing.

Nomadic_Atmoran · July 2022

DarrowLykos wrote: »

auz wrote: »

As a pvper, I find overland pve events mind numbingly boring and utterly soul sucking. I don't think it is fair I should be forced to run ridiculous find 3 berries quests just to recieve event tickets. Please can we have a way to recieve tickets without having to take part in said overland tedium?

Nothing hinders you from doing this though, do you have to wait in long queues to get tickets during normal events? Do you get chased around and mobbed by other players who are there only to grief you while trying to do normal events for tickets? I get it's not all the time, but for those who do not PVP which is not a base/required part of the game to do any kind of PVE one should not be forced to earn tickets in this way. Are the PVPers so hard up for others to fight you will settle for slaughtering those who have no interest in PVP, but would still like those pesky tickets? If someone want to try it out they will, no reason to force an event on it and then make it forced for tickets which they know most want.

Nothing actually hinders you from doing the PvE content in Cyrodiil though. You just have to actually apply yourself.

Ratzkifal · July 2022

DarrowLykos wrote: »

auz wrote: »

As a pvper, I find overland pve events mind numbingly boring and utterly soul sucking. I don't think it is fair I should be forced to run ridiculous find 3 berries quests just to recieve event tickets. Please can we have a way to recieve tickets without having to take part in said overland tedium?

Nothing hinders you from doing this though, do you have to wait in long queues to get tickets during normal events? Do you get chased around and mobbed by other players who are there only to grief you while trying to do normal events for tickets? I get it's not all the time, but for those who do not PVP which is not a base/required part of the game to do any kind of PVE one should not be forced to earn tickets in this way. Are the PVPers so hard up for others to fight you will settle for slaughtering those who have no interest in PVP, but would still like those pesky tickets? If someone want to try it out they will, no reason to force an event on it and then make it forced for tickets which they know most want.

There are all sorts of events that have dailies locked behind a quest chain or require you to own a specific DLC. Don't say there is nothing in the way of getting those PvE event tickets. To use your words against you - are PvErs so desperate for making others pay for DLCs they have no interest in?

You have your events, let PvPers have theirs. Don't like it? Then don't participate and buy what you missed on the next PvE event or pay for the tickets. There is always enough tickets available if you forego the other rewards and buy them from the guildstores. As far as I'm aware there has yet to be an event cycle that ends on a PvP event but there already have been event item cycles ending on a DLC exclusive event.

It's funny, I have never seen PvPers demand rewards from dungeons and trials be removed or made available through other means but there are always a couple of PvErs that want PvP rewards to be available through PvE means. You got plenty of PvP dailies that don't require combat. Isn't that enough?

Maybe instead of demanding PvP events to cater to your needs you could ask if there are people willing to come and help you out with your dailies, the same way PvPers deal with the Undaunted Celebration. Since you aren't in this alone I'm sure there are plenty of people willing to do the event together with you for mutual protection. Usually you have an entire alliance out there trying to secure a safe spot to quest for you, and if you don't you can switch to a character from the alliance that does. You only need to do one daily per day after all. And the queue times are not a big deal either because they always add more campaigns during the event and I have never seen all of them pop-locked at the same time. If that ever happened ZOS would be adding even more campaigns to be sure.

alternatelder · July 2022

Nomadic_Atmoran wrote: »

DarrowLykos wrote: »

auz wrote: »

As a pvper, I find overland pve events mind numbingly boring and utterly soul sucking. I don't think it is fair I should be forced to run ridiculous find 3 berries quests just to recieve event tickets. Please can we have a way to recieve tickets without having to take part in said overland tedium?

Nothing hinders you from doing this though, do you have to wait in long queues to get tickets during normal events? Do you get chased around and mobbed by other players who are there only to grief you while trying to do normal events for tickets? I get it's not all the time, but for those who do not PVP which is not a base/required part of the game to do any kind of PVE one should not be forced to earn tickets in this way. Are the PVPers so hard up for others to fight you will settle for slaughtering those who have no interest in PVP, but would still like those pesky tickets? If someone want to try it out they will, no reason to force an event on it and then make it forced for tickets which they know most want.

Nothing actually hinders you from doing the PvE content in Cyrodiil though. You just have to actually apply yourself.

There is no strictly pve content in Cyrodiil or Imp City, it is all open pvpve. If you think a seasoned pvper is not going to prevent a pveer from getting tickets, you're living in a fantasy world.

Strut6569 · July 2022

auz wrote: »

As a pvper, I find overland pve events mind numbingly boring and utterly soul sucking. I don't think it is fair I should be forced to run ridiculous find 3 berries quests just to recieve event tickets. Please can we have a way to recieve tickets without having to take part in said overland tedium?

I see what you did there!

Ratzkifal · July 2022

alternatelder wrote: »

Nomadic_Atmoran wrote: »

DarrowLykos wrote: »

auz wrote: »

As a pvper, I find overland pve events mind numbingly boring and utterly soul sucking. I don't think it is fair I should be forced to run ridiculous find 3 berries quests just to recieve event tickets. Please can we have a way to recieve tickets without having to take part in said overland tedium?

Nothing hinders you from doing this though, do you have to wait in long queues to get tickets during normal events? Do you get chased around and mobbed by other players who are there only to grief you while trying to do normal events for tickets? I get it's not all the time, but for those who do not PVP which is not a base/required part of the game to do any kind of PVE one should not be forced to earn tickets in this way. Are the PVPers so hard up for others to fight you will settle for slaughtering those who have no interest in PVP, but would still like those pesky tickets? If someone want to try it out they will, no reason to force an event on it and then make it forced for tickets which they know most want.

Nothing actually hinders you from doing the PvE content in Cyrodiil though. You just have to actually apply yourself.

There is no strictly pve content in Cyrodiil or Imp City, it is all open pvpve. If you think a seasoned pvper is not going to prevent a pveer from getting tickets, you're living in a fantasy world.

And how would a seasoned PvPer know that you are currently riding across the map to some castle or resource to write a report there? Nobody knows where you are or where you are headed. Behind the frontlines there aren't even any other players moving about because they use the transitus network, so you cannot even randomly encounter someone.

Imperial City is small enough that you always run into someone, true. But do you actually need 36 tickets or are 24 already enough? If you absolutely cannot deal with IC then I recommend thinking of it as only 24 tickets and maybe buy a few more event items from guildstores instead.

tonyblack · July 2022

Go to one of the 7 days campaign (they usually not very active, check bars to be sure), check if your faction controls majority of the map, port to town, grab and do 3 min quest. Enjoy your easy pve tickets. Best time to do it right before reset.

Freelancer_ESO · July 2022

alternatelder wrote: »

Nomadic_Atmoran wrote: »

DarrowLykos wrote: »

auz wrote: »

As a pvper, I find overland pve events mind numbingly boring and utterly soul sucking. I don't think it is fair I should be forced to run ridiculous find 3 berries quests just to recieve event tickets. Please can we have a way to recieve tickets without having to take part in said overland tedium?

Nothing hinders you from doing this though, do you have to wait in long queues to get tickets during normal events? Do you get chased around and mobbed by other players who are there only to grief you while trying to do normal events for tickets? I get it's not all the time, but for those who do not PVP which is not a base/required part of the game to do any kind of PVE one should not be forced to earn tickets in this way. Are the PVPers so hard up for others to fight you will settle for slaughtering those who have no interest in PVP, but would still like those pesky tickets? If someone want to try it out they will, no reason to force an event on it and then make it forced for tickets which they know most want.

Nothing actually hinders you from doing the PvE content in Cyrodiil though. You just have to actually apply yourself.

There is no strictly pve content in Cyrodiil or Imp City, it is all open pvpve. If you think a seasoned pvper is not going to prevent a pveer from getting tickets, you're living in a fantasy world.

Unless they've fixed it or people have figured out a way to kill you while you are above and out of los, you can do the Arena Quest without going down:

"Arena District: https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:The_Lifeblood_of_an_Empire
(VERY EASY) - If you use something that may or may not be intended. So, ZOS knows about what I’m going to say and has neither said its unintended nor fixed it. So your mileage may vary.
From your spawn tower, sneak on the top to the edges and use ranged skills to kill the daedra/free the prisoners nearby. Be careful, because enemy players can knock you down if they see you. (You could also attack them, so its fair game.) If you want to be even safer, just sit in the Sanctuary portion of the spawn tower and wait for the players on the edge to kill daedra/free prisoners for you. It’ll take awhile, but you’ll be safe.

Word of Warning: PVPers can also read these guides, and thus know that players like to sit up in the tower. This might not be as easy as you are hoping for. Also, its probably not what ZOS had in mind when they designed that quest. Finally, bring a book to read or something, because its boring."

Source: VaranisArano's wonderful 101 for the event

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/612508/whitestrakes-mayhem-101-july-2022

thorwyn · July 2022

[snip]
If you want tickets, play the content. If [hate for PVP] > [desire to get tickets], then skip the event.
I am a 100% PvE player. I don't enjoy PvP in ESO for some reason, although I loved it in other games (DAoC etc.). So I went into this event with enogh tickets to buy the fragment and I will probably let it run out. Maybe I'll give it a shot and try some IC quests if I'm in the mood but that's it. The event rewards are not very exciting anyways.

[edited for baiting]

kargen27 · July 2022

alternatelder wrote: »

Nomadic_Atmoran wrote: »

DarrowLykos wrote: »

auz wrote: »

As a pvper, I find overland pve events mind numbingly boring and utterly soul sucking. I don't think it is fair I should be forced to run ridiculous find 3 berries quests just to recieve event tickets. Please can we have a way to recieve tickets without having to take part in said overland tedium?

Nothing hinders you from doing this though, do you have to wait in long queues to get tickets during normal events? Do you get chased around and mobbed by other players who are there only to grief you while trying to do normal events for tickets? I get it's not all the time, but for those who do not PVP which is not a base/required part of the game to do any kind of PVE one should not be forced to earn tickets in this way. Are the PVPers so hard up for others to fight you will settle for slaughtering those who have no interest in PVP, but would still like those pesky tickets? If someone want to try it out they will, no reason to force an event on it and then make it forced for tickets which they know most want.

Nothing actually hinders you from doing the PvE content in Cyrodiil though. You just have to actually apply yourself.

There is no strictly pve content in Cyrodiil or Imp City, it is all open pvpve. If you think a seasoned pvper is not going to prevent a pveer from getting tickets, you're living in a fantasy world.

A seasoned PvP'r is going to ignore you. Your character isn't worth their time. The players killing you are the ones that have never been good at PvP so they use these events to finally get a few kills.

RevJJ · July 2022

kargen27 wrote: »

alternatelder wrote: »

Nomadic_Atmoran wrote: »

DarrowLykos wrote: »

auz wrote: »

As a pvper, I find overland pve events mind numbingly boring and utterly soul sucking. I don't think it is fair I should be forced to run ridiculous find 3 berries quests just to recieve event tickets. Please can we have a way to recieve tickets without having to take part in said overland tedium?

Nothing hinders you from doing this though, do you have to wait in long queues to get tickets during normal events? Do you get chased around and mobbed by other players who are there only to grief you while trying to do normal events for tickets? I get it's not all the time, but for those who do not PVP which is not a base/required part of the game to do any kind of PVE one should not be forced to earn tickets in this way. Are the PVPers so hard up for others to fight you will settle for slaughtering those who have no interest in PVP, but would still like those pesky tickets? If someone want to try it out they will, no reason to force an event on it and then make it forced for tickets which they know most want.

Nothing actually hinders you from doing the PvE content in Cyrodiil though. You just have to actually apply yourself.

There is no strictly pve content in Cyrodiil or Imp City, it is all open pvpve. If you think a seasoned pvper is not going to prevent a pveer from getting tickets, you're living in a fantasy world.

A seasoned PvP'r is going to ignore you. Your character isn't worth their time. The players killing you are the ones that have never been good at PvP so they use these events to finally get a few kills.

^ this. The same with people camping at quest hand in spots. Those are usually people who never pvp outside this event and want to get some easy kills.

spartaxoxo · July 2022

kargen27 wrote: »

alternatelder wrote: »

Nomadic_Atmoran wrote: »

DarrowLykos wrote: »

auz wrote: »

As a pvper, I find overland pve events mind numbingly boring and utterly soul sucking. I don't think it is fair I should be forced to run ridiculous find 3 berries quests just to recieve event tickets. Please can we have a way to recieve tickets without having to take part in said overland tedium?

Nothing hinders you from doing this though, do you have to wait in long queues to get tickets during normal events? Do you get chased around and mobbed by other players who are there only to grief you while trying to do normal events for tickets? I get it's not all the time, but for those who do not PVP which is not a base/required part of the game to do any kind of PVE one should not be forced to earn tickets in this way. Are the PVPers so hard up for others to fight you will settle for slaughtering those who have no interest in PVP, but would still like those pesky tickets? If someone want to try it out they will, no reason to force an event on it and then make it forced for tickets which they know most want.

Nothing actually hinders you from doing the PvE content in Cyrodiil though. You just have to actually apply yourself.

There is no strictly pve content in Cyrodiil or Imp City, it is all open pvpve. If you think a seasoned pvper is not going to prevent a pveer from getting tickets, you're living in a fantasy world.

A seasoned PvP'r is going to ignore you. Your character isn't worth their time. The players killing you are the ones that have never been good at PvP so they use these events to finally get a few kills.

A lot of those types camp the door of IC the first few days. So if you want to avoid them, just port back to Cyro and then Back to IC. Or you can just not care if they kill you by not having much of any Tel-Var. In addition, during a down time you can pickup and do all the quests at once. Then you can just turn them in each day of the event.

For Cyrodiil, you can do a scout quest instead of a town. Because these types like to camp towns since they know people will be there. Take roundabout routes to wherever you need to scout and you'll be unlikely to run into anyone at all.

You won't die hardly any if you just plan around the assumption that these types are going to camp the most common places PvE players want to flock.

mocap · July 2022

if you said something against PvP in comparative form in relation to PVE, you are immediately countered in the opposite. And that's absolutely fair, imo.

WinterHeart626 · July 2022

It’s a pvp event, us PVE players get plenty of those already, this is one of the few times the pvp community actually get something. You want the tickets, you run the gauntlet. Simple as that. I’ve seen a tonne of threads complaining that they’ve got to go into cyro or imp city for the tickets. So what. Do the event, or skip it. Stop asking for a free pass into pvp zones without risks.

Grizzbeorn · July 2022

kargen27 wrote: »

A seasoned PvP'r is going to ignore you. Your character isn't worth their time. The players killing you are the ones that have never been good at PvP so they use these events to finally get a few kills.

I agree with all of this.
But how does a decent person tell if you aren't actually a PvPer?
Is there a visual cue?

thorwyn · July 2022

Is there a visual cue?

I guess an HP bar that says 18.000 is a pretty good tell.

Grizzbeorn · July 2022

thorwyn wrote: »

Is there a visual cue?

I guess an HP bar that says 18.000 is a pretty good tell.

True.

I run around at 36,000 prior to food, though. Not that I'm asking for myself.
I have no problem with having to go into Cyrodiil when I need to; I just don't spend any appreciable amount of time there
(or in IC, which I haven't been to, yet).

Firstmep · July 2022

I went to do a daily quest in Bruma last night, I get that a lot of pve folks show up here for quests, and I have 0 desire to fight people who just want to do their quest.
Funnily enough it was all the pve players that kept trying to kill me constantly.
Maybe beacuse the stars next to my name ppl assume I'm here to gank them, im not sure.

Anyway, this argument is age old.
This is a pvp event, in pvp zones.
Period.
Literally every other event is for pve, so let pvpers have this one.
It's not impossible to get your ticket even if you want to avoid pvp, there are so many guides out there on it.

FlopsyPrince · July 2022

dinokstrunz wrote: »

DarrowLykos wrote: »

auz wrote: »

As a pvper, I find overland pve events mind numbingly boring and utterly soul sucking. I don't think it is fair I should be forced to run ridiculous find 3 berries quests just to recieve event tickets. Please can we have a way to recieve tickets without having to take part in said overland tedium?

Nothing hinders you from doing this though, do you have to wait in long queues to get tickets during normal events? Do you get chased around and mobbed by other players who are there only to grief you while trying to do normal events for tickets? I get it's not all the time, but for those who do not PVP which is not a base/required part of the game to do any kind of PVE one should not be forced to earn tickets in this way. Are the PVPers so hard up for others to fight you will settle for slaughtering those who have no interest in PVP, but would still like those pesky tickets? If someone want to try it out they will, no reason to force an event on it and then make it forced for tickets which they know most want.

Nobody is forcing you to get the tickets, don't like it don't do it. There's plenty of other events for people who dislike PvP. I'll fight whoever is in front of me in PvP anyone is fair game.

That is a false argument since so many things are time limited, especially if you don't have Indriks on your current platform now. Skipping an event is not an option if you want the things tickets buy, which are not (generally) tied to PvP.

FlopsyPrince · July 2022

Firstmep wrote: »

I went to do a daily quest in Bruma last night, I get that a lot of pve folks show up here for quests, and I have 0 desire to fight people who just want to do their quest.
Funnily enough it was all the pve players that kept trying to kill me constantly.
Maybe beacuse the stars next to my name ppl assume I'm here to gank them, im not sure.

Anyway, this argument is age old.
This is a pvp event, in pvp zones.
Period.
Literally every other event is for pve, so let pvpers have this one.
It's not impossible to get your ticket even if you want to avoid pvp, there are so many guides out there on it.

So? Have your event. Separate the tickets from the other rewards and give them for just using the item you get for the PvP boost, just like you do with the birthday cake!

The only reason to force PvE players into PvP zones is to give PvPers that aren't getting what they want otherwise more targets to gank.

HertoginJanneke · July 2022

As a PVE-er : No. PVP-ers have to do PVE to get the tickets during PVE events, so why would PVE-ers not have to do PVP to get the tickets during a PVP event ?

Amottica · July 2022

DarrowLykos wrote: »

auz wrote: »

As a pvper, I find overland pve events mind numbingly boring and utterly soul sucking. I don't think it is fair I should be forced to run ridiculous find 3 berries quests just to recieve event tickets. Please can we have a way to recieve tickets without having to take part in said overland tedium?

Nothing hinders you from doing this though, do you have to wait in long queues to get tickets during normal events? Do you get chased around and mobbed by other players who are there only to grief you while trying to do normal events for tickets? I get it's not all the time, but for those who do not PVP which is not a base/required part of the game to do any kind of PVE one should not be forced to earn tickets in this way. Are the PVPers so hard up for others to fight you will settle for slaughtering those who have no interest in PVP, but would still like those pesky tickets? If someone want to try it out they will, no reason to force an event on it and then make it forced for tickets which they know most want.

Nothing hinders you from doing the PvP event. I have not waited in any long queue as there are campaigns added for the event that are often low pop so it is quick to get in, do a quest, claim the tickets, and move on. Cyrodiil tickets are easy to get which is the largest share of the tickets.

Regardless, this is the rare PvP event in a sea of PvE events. We have a choice to deal with it or avoid it but it is clear Zenimax has shown no interest in providing a PvE alternative to this event outside of doing a PvE quest in Cyrodiil.

Kitziboo · July 2022

The first time I tried PVP was for one of these events and I found that I actually enjoy it and often join a campaign in Cyrodil to pop in and out of (real life permitting). I’m not so keen on IC although I have fully completed the zone on my main and BGs aren’t much fun either.

For IC, I usually complete the Arena zone on AD by parking a character in the silenced zone near the ledge while I make lunch. The quest is usually ready to turn in when I return, without any danger or fighting. I do this with alts when I am away at other times during the day too.

Bruccius · July 2022

DarrowLykos wrote: »

I do not PVP in this game unless I have to. From time to time I will do a few matches to get some crystals and that is it. SO we should not be forced into PVP events to earn tickets. To top it off there are huge queues to get into Cyrodiil or IC So now this non-PVPer has to PVP and wait hours to do so.

There have already been made additional campaigns.

PvP has been neglected for a fair bit of time. While I do advocate for PvE Cyrodiil, this event should remain PvP-centered. It gets Cyrodiil activity that it doesn't see often.

xDeusEJRx · July 2022

DarrowLykos wrote: »

auz wrote: »

As a pvper, I find overland pve events mind numbingly boring and utterly soul sucking. I don't think it is fair I should be forced to run ridiculous find 3 berries quests just to recieve event tickets. Please can we have a way to recieve tickets without having to take part in said overland tedium?

Nothing hinders you from doing this though, do you have to wait in long queues to get tickets during normal events?

Undaunted dungeon event would like to have a word with you.
Playing DPS during that event is quite literally the exact same experience because no one queues tank or healer on console and 1 million DPS so even during that event the wait time is long.

So yes, pvp players have to endure the same thing. If you don't want to PVP, dont. If you want the rewards then you have to, but you can't expect to be given rewards without participating in the purpose of the event