Is in-game voice chat coming?

Sakiri · May 2014

SeñorCinco wrote: »

I vote with an emphatic.. yes.

.. and it can't come quick enough. I have other things to do with my hands, like control my character. I don't want to stop and have to go through the process of typing out anything as the new player I want to interact with is... gone.

No 3rd party software cannot accommodate that, no matter how techy it has evolved.

Im sorry you cant fuction without voice chat.

SeñorCinco · May 2014

Sakiri wrote: »

Im sorry you cant fuction without voice chat.

Not as sorry as I am that you can.

Sakiri · May 2014

SeñorCinco wrote: »

Sakiri wrote: »

Im sorry you cant fuction without voice chat.

Not as sorry as I am that you can.

180 wpm typing speed is nothing to be sorry about.

SeñorCinco · May 2014

Sakiri wrote: »

180 wpm typing speed is nothing to be sorry about.

Why would speed be an issue? It's the fact of having to stop one thing and do another in lieu of doing two at the same time.

Then again... I guess any typing speed will be an issue.

I mean no amount of typing skills can compare to communicating simultaneously while in combat, for example. Those few seconds can mean surviving or not.

Sakiri · May 2014

Thats why discussing things beforehand is important.

I have no issues typing in combat. Never have. And Ill still not use voice chat with random people.

Adding it will just make it mandatory.

Had a friend in EQ2 that was deaf. Caught crap because he refused to use voice chat.

When the disabled catch hell for being unable to use a feature thats supposedly optional, its become a mandatory crutch.

the_Burne · May 2014

hope not, I dislike in game voice.. would rather use vent or teamspeak with an overlay.. the game has enough issues without adding more too it with VOIP lag.. and I'd be scared they'd try a voice megaserver.....

SeñorCinco · May 2014

Sakiri wrote: »

When the disabled catch hell for being unable to use a feature thats supposedly optional, its become a mandatory crutch.

That same burden is mirrored to ones like myself that are plagued with aging and all of it's hardships.

I cannot use a mouse for more than a few minutes at a time. My arthritis forces me to use a controller for any extended gameplay. I have the KB&M handy. I use the mouse when navigating the inventory because Xpadder cannot mimic in-game support for tabbing through the UI.

Sakiri · May 2014

I have carpal tunnel issues and Im visually impaired.

My solution was not using kb/mouse for extended periods of time, not playing the game when theres pain.

I have trouble reading the chat box during combat. Hence, discussed beforehand.

Thats called "know your role." I can sympathyze, but I cant advocate a system that will become a mandatory crutch for the lazy.

SeñorCinco · May 2014

Sakiri wrote: »

I have trouble reading the chat box during combat. Hence, discussed beforehand.

Thats called "know your role." I can sympathyze, but I cant advocate a system that will become a mandatory crutch for the lazy.

I see. So you get all of your info in before you fight and abandon the chat in combat?

Audigy · May 2014

Having a voice chat still doesn't mean that everyone will use it. Ever played CS, HL or BF? Most people don't use the ingame voice chats available to them.

Issue with voice chat implementation at an MMO however is, that it can kill the immersion quite quickly if you hear the voice of a little child while interacting with a mean dragon knight.

Besides that, it could become mandatory in dungeons just like addons and specs. If you don't play as the Elitist´s demand, you wont be able to get in groups as in their eyes you are a scrub and a leecher.

Another thing is, having a headset isn't a given either. Especially older players most likely don't have these tools and unless you are into Esports a young one wont as well.

Sakiri · May 2014

SeñorCinco wrote: »

Sakiri wrote: »

I have trouble reading the chat box during combat. Hence, discussed beforehand.

Thats called "know your role." I can sympathyze, but I cant advocate a system that will become a mandatory crutch for the lazy.

I see. So you get all of your info in before you fight and abandon the chat in combat?

Once its pulled yes. Do you not strategize in group play?

SeñorCinco · May 2014

I guess I don't see what the difference is in getting info beforehand via text or voice and then turn it off during the important part. I understand "know your roll" aspect but what about players that don't know their role. I want them to be part of my experience as well.

I heavily RP all of my characters and want to engage in dialog with strangers that happen to be in the mix with any given dungeon. If they are IC or not. Even players that think they are not comfortable with VOIP RP will take it up when you start. Granted it's not for everyone justy as messing with antiquated texting in-game.

My point is to show a variety of ways that voice can be better than sending messages.

Sakiri · May 2014

I larp. I dont need to RP with voice chat in game.

Those that dont know whats expected can learn from text too. I have no issues explaining things.

I just cannot support a built in feature that will become mandatory by lazy people that dont want to type.

Imryll · May 2014

I really hope they add group voice chat, particularly for use in Cyrodiil, but also for dungeon/questing groups. Typing just takes too long and is easily overlooked.

HandofBane · May 2014

SeñorCinco wrote: »

I mean no amount of typing skills can compare to communicating simultaneously while in combat, for example. Those few seconds can mean surviving or not.

A Welshman, a Tuscon-born hispanic, and two South Carolina gentlemen of backwoods persuasion walk into a Teamspeak channel.... But seriously, that was what I got to filter through with one of my old PvP guilds, made more fun with hearing loss in one ear. While, yes, voice comms can make things a bit faster in some cases, in others it can cause massive issues trying to sort out what is being said behind all the accents in channel - made worse with us only having two servers, putting everyone in this hemisphere on one potential voice-chat collective.

Edit: apparently the forum filters out people with necks colored red.

SeñorCinco · May 2014

Sakiri wrote: »

I just cannot support a built in feature that will become mandatory by lazy people that dont want to type.

I cannot put a label on others just because they choose to play different than me. People that play in similar aspects will find each other. I just want to play with those like minded individuals the same as you play with typists. I disable my chat window as it's not a viable option for me.

You have your source of communication in-game. I do not and I can assure you, my friend... it's not form being lazy.

Jeremy · May 2014

RedTalon wrote: »

If I want a fat guy telling me what to do in voice chat, I will record my own voice and listen to it.

Please don't put this in it will become mandatory to use for anything in-game.

That's what I'm afraid of too.

When ever it becomes a basic function of the game people expect you to at least keep the voice active even if you do not use the mic yourself. And then the misery to my ears begins.

AryaWythers · May 2014

I have to use third party third party software just to be able to group with real life friends in Cyrodiil and it is getting a bit old...I only hope they can fix this basic game function before they work on Voice Chat that is not needed. With the Mega-Servers not being able to live up to their hype...in being a viable to allow for RvRvR please at least help the PvP players before you add this useless function since hopefully there are more important mechanics that need fixing.

cucmw5ub17_ESO · May 2014

Wow tried a voice chat briefly, and nobody I know even uses it anymore.
Starcraft allegedly has one, but again, who uses voice chat for starcraft?
Frankly quite glad more games dont have voice chat since most fps games have adolescent elementary school kids screaming in your ears.
Have you seen some of the people in zone chat while leveling? People don't even want to bother googling anything anymore, let alone read quest text or learn anything from the tutorial.

No. I do not think this game needs that. I don't want to have to listen to the dweebs in zone chat over my headphones as well.

Sakiri · May 2014

HandofBane wrote: »

SeñorCinco wrote: »

I mean no amount of typing skills can compare to communicating simultaneously while in combat, for example. Those few seconds can mean surviving or not.

A Welshman, a Tuscon-born hispanic, and two South Carolina gentlemen of backwoods persuasion walk into a Teamspeak channel.... But seriously, that was what I got to filter through with one of my old PvP guilds, made more fun with hearing loss in one ear. While, yes, voice comms can make things a bit faster in some cases, in others it can cause massive issues trying to sort out what is being said behind all the accents in channel - made worse with us only having two servers, putting everyone in this hemisphere on one potential voice-chat collective.

Edit: apparently the forum filters out people with necks colored red.

Personally I love the accents and get giddy when my Swedish friend speaks ><

ferzalrwb17_ESO · May 2014

Sakiri wrote: »

I larp. I dont need to RP with voice chat in game.

Those that dont know whats expected can learn from text too. I have no issues explaining things.

I just cannot support a built in feature that will become mandatory by lazy people that dont want to type.

I get it if you don't want to show you're female or you have an embarrassing voice. A lot of women don't speak in MMOs because the nerdy fellas get a bit excited. I can understand that. I've also noticed that, in gaming in general, women tend be able to type and fight at the same time which we males don't do very well and then we try to read it and die.

There is a lot of myth about the female capacity to multi-task but there is also some truth. And texting while playing is one of the truths IMO. I'm shocking at it. I'm not lazy. I can type and die. Or I can live and not type.

Solution: turn your mic off. Many people don't want to or can't speak (make noise etc). You can still listen. If they're annoying - leave.

That said, with the current playerbase in ESO I would NEVER turn it on in a pug. I played LOTRO, and whilst full of weird nerds, they were decent and mostly easy to get along with. The sort of stuff I see in PVE zonechat in ESO makes me want to bring up my lunch hence I usually turn it off.

I can't work out what I'm voting for here. Candy I think.

Sakiri · May 2014

SeñorCinco wrote: »

Sakiri wrote: »

I just cannot support a built in feature that will become mandatory by lazy people that dont want to type.

I cannot put a label on others just because they choose to play different than me. People that play in similar aspects will find each other. I just want to play with those like minded individuals the same as you play with typists. I disable my chat window as it's not a viable option for me.

You have your source of communication in-game. I do not and I can assure you, my friend... it's not form being lazy.

Can totally sympathize, but I cant support it.

After a really annoying stint of guilds that only used voice and ignored typed chat entirely for everything and pugs kicking raid geared, OP to hell characters(my friggin dirge could tank the olace.. bard tank gogo) because I refused to get into voice with them, and Ive been told "its easier to talk" and "Im too lazy to type" in the same sentence...

No. I will not support it nor will I use it if ever its added.

I run a teamspeak server. Im open to letting others use it. Ive opened it to my partners world of tanks clans(hes in charge of two battalions). I like to be able to limit who is there, and who I speak with. Plus, if I dont want to use it in a group, I dont have to.

Soon as its in game, people will expect you to use it. If you dont, youre shunned.

With it third party, its truly optional.

Of course, we will have to agree to disagree. Thank you for not being an arse, and I apologize if I sounded like one.

AryaWythers · May 2014

ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »

Sakiri wrote: »

I larp. I dont need to RP with voice chat in game.

Those that dont know whats expected can learn from text too. I have no issues explaining things.

I just cannot support a built in feature that will become mandatory by lazy people that dont want to type.

I get it if you don't want to show you're female or you have an embarrassing voice. A lot of women don't speak in MMOs because the nerdy fellas get a bit excited. I can understand that. I've also noticed that, in gaming in general, women tend be able to type and fight at the same time which we males don't do very well and then we try to read it and die.

There is a lot of myth about the female capacity to multi-task but there is also some truth. And texting while playing is one of the truths IMO. I'm shocking at it. I'm not lazy. I can type and die. Or I can live and not type.

Solution: turn your mic off. Many people don't want to or can't speak (make noise etc). You can still listen. If they're annoying - leave.

That said, with the current playerbase in ESO I would NEVER turn it on in a pug. I played LOTRO, and whilst full of weird nerds, they were decent and mostly easy to get along with. The sort of stuff I see in PVE zonechat in ESO makes me want to bring up my lunch hence I usually turn it off.

I can't work out what I'm voting for here. Candy I think.

Lol..Voice Chat has shown to be a fail in so many MMOs so stop your petty personal attacks on this paying customer please. Only read the first few words of your response to understand it was way out of line!

Sakiri · May 2014

I wasnt offended by his response nor considered then personal attacks.

And the "paying customer" argument annoys me.

Im not demanding anything, im disagreeing with it being added and stating why.

Valn · May 2014

Pretty unlikely. It's not written down or recorded what you say and it could be a place for terrorists to speak their plans without consequence, I wouldn't want to be out looking for minerals and come across a group of people talking about snack bars or something

AlliN · May 2014

I know there's a chance I'm going to get flamed again, but it needs to be stated:

I wish they implement proper handling of teams and group play first - becasue that's something TS3 can't fix.

Shillen · May 2014

Most people are just going to have it disabled. This is why it never works in MMOs. If most of the people have it disabled then it serves no purpose even to those who want to use it.

SeñorCinco · May 2014

Sakiri wrote: »

Of course, we will have to agree to disagree. Thank you for not being an arse, and I apologize if I sounded like one.

You are quite welcome. I remember you from the beth forums and your little friend. There is no need for people to get upset and be a complete lunatic when someone has another opinion from them. I think most assume the position of feeling compelled to try and convince the other party(s) to take their side.

If I don't like squash, no amount of jumping up and down from from an idiot throwing snark left and right is going to change that. One can only present their points of interest. Personally, I'm not out to convince anyone but I will still share my views on a given subject... accepted or not.

I just happen to need VOIP in order to utilize my character more efficiently. With the right group of people VOIP RP is unmatched, for those that do that sort of thing. I have a deep voice and I RP my little Bosmer as being possessed, for lack of a better term, by a Dremora Markynaz. So there are ways around the gender aspects of it.

However, I will admit that I have zero tolerance when you have the guy that is constantly exhaling with gusts every other breath and making weird chatter noises like someone dying from boredom. I will not hold my tongue for a second. Still, there are ways around that sort of thing. Yes, there may be some passersby that gets vocal but no different than one would expect if it was an actual environment. Walk the streets of NY and listen how verbally docile everyone is. I welcome that occasional banter but not during a focused grouping.

I would not be supportive of a zone voice chat. I don't favor the instant item mailing form across the planet, let alone being able to chat with everyone instantly in the guild or group. I only open mail if I am at a bank. If I'm not within a reasonable talking distance, I don't want to communicate directly at all.

I am, however in favor of a proximity voice chat with a cone directional and automated volume control pending distance. Mumble has this in their service and they carry a very low footprint. That same tech could be used in game.

At the very least, ZOS could allow Mumble to use API coding to grant these abilities. As it is now.. it's just straight talk no matter where you are.

Nyxx · May 2014

HandofBane wrote: »

laced wrote: »

Sakiri wrote: »

laced wrote: »

I am all for in game voice chat. But unless you are in a group, you should only be able to hear people that are NEAR you, like the say option, no more than a 5 meter radius or something like that. If you are in a group, obviously it should be game wide.

I dont want to hear people near me either.

Most in game chat has group, raid, guild channels and custom channels. No general channels.

Then turn it off? But I think that group, raid, guild channels, and custom channels is also a good idea, I just would like a general one as well, you could simply turn it off. Then I can finally tell if that female elf is actually female, lol, or not.

Which is exactly why many people will not want voice chat ingame at all. Speaking from the experience of being in guilds with multiple females (last WoW guild was around 50%), the last thing most of them wanted was to deal with the *** who were more worried about what kind of plumbing they had rather than if they could play their class/character well.

^

epoling · May 2014

My EQ2 guild almost has an anti-voice chat rule. Several of our leaders are European and very self-conscious about their accents. One leader plays from work. I like to listen to NPR when I play. We all have reasons we don't use it or want to subject other guild members to it. Never had a problem that was caused by not having voice chat.