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Hey Zos, Have you thought about doing a behind the scenes ViDoc type thing for combat Balance?

Mr_Stach
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Ok so I'll be the first to admit, I've been harsh on your pattern for Combat Balance and I will probably not change that on that fact that I think that these constant balance pendulum swings are exhausting and will point the game in a self destructive direction.

BUT.

Have you thought about doing maybe a behind the scenes type deal where you show what goes into a balance patch, this patch you said that "80 hours of Testing" went into it, what did that look like. When you receive in-game feedback or feedback on the forums, how is that processed? How does the team get to the point where thy are going to make a big change and how do you test that, is it in a vacuum or do you load it up with all these other changes?

I think there would be a much harsh environment on the PTS, if we understood how you came to the conclusion, other than you just got there, which you are the Devs, you're going to do what you're going to do. But I think there needs to be some sort of Transparency beyond some Developer Notes. Let us know your Design Process and how you plan to move forward.

Just my thoughts, maybe people will agree, I'll probably go back to Ranting in 5 minutes or so.
Altoholic, Frost Warden Sympathizer and Main

Glacial Guardian - Main - Frost Warden Zealot
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  • Holycannoli
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    You want to know what goes into a balance patch?

    A spreadsheet. A spreadsheet where everything is normalized and homogenized (IE "boring!")

    Anything that's counter to what's in the spreadsheet needs to be "balanced".
  • Mr_Stach
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    You want to know what goes into a balance patch?

    A spreadsheet. A spreadsheet where everything is normalized and homogenized (IE "boring!")

    Anything that's counter to what's in the spreadsheet needs to be "balanced".

    Yes, yes. I know. We know. The fact that Gilliam specifically asked for "Data and not Anecdotes" paints a clear enough picture. But It's one thing for us to say "Hey you do this thing" and completely different for someone to say "This is how we do something"

    I think Mindset and Intent is important, I don't think they are purposefully ruining some things, sometimes it takes saying it out loud to realize how ridiculous you sound.
    Altoholic, Frost Warden Sympathizer and Main

    Glacial Guardian - Main - Frost Warden Zealot
    The Frost Man Cometh - PC Frost Backup
  • KingExecration
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    If they did do this they would get torched like usual. Rightfully so, but changes like this update lack direction when they do sweeping changes. At least the team we had doing combat stuff for morrowind made sense and said everyone had too much sustain.
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