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Once again I am asking you for your natch potes.
  • Sallymen
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    Best case scenario, they completely drop the combat changes and just give us the dungeons as it is.

    Worst case scenario, they ignore player feedback and do whatever they want.

    Most likely scenario, they revert dot ticks but still reduce their damage.

    Bonus points if they buff crystal weapon / Frag after going into the trouble of nerfing it
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  • Jazraena
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    Sallymen wrote: »
    Best case scenario, they completely drop the combat changes and just give us the dungeons as it is.

    Worst case scenario, they ignore player feedback and do whatever they want.

    Most likely scenario, they revert dot ticks but still reduce their damage.

    Bonus points if they buff crystal weapon / Frag after going into the trouble of nerfing it

    Honestly, rn anything but best case will likely have me stop PvP and shelf 12 out of 15 characters for PvE too. Just keep one DPS, tank, healer and casually top off on transmutes until they invariably change it again, hopefully towards the better then.
  • Lykeion
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    Normally, the natch pote is released a few hours after the update. I agree that it should be released in advance
  • Darkstorne
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    Today's are likely to go live with only minor changes, right? Last real chance for a major change in direction?

    So today is the day I decide whether to move on to another MMO. I've played ESO since beta, but my main is a StamSorc LA build. If the fixed low LA damage that can't be enhanced by our stats goes live, then I'm out. I love my LAs/HAs to feel impactful like the single player games. If ZOS think that me intentionally gimping my DPS like that in favour of a personally enjoyable playstyle is somehow OP and needs a mega nerf... Clearly this is not the game for me anymore.
  • Jazraena
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    Yep. Any major change to today's variant would have to come with the Live Patch.
  • merpins
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    Darkstorne wrote: »
    Today's are likely to go live with only minor changes, right? Last real chance for a major change in direction?

    So today is the day I decide whether to move on to another MMO. I've played ESO since beta, but my main is a StamSorc LA build. If the fixed low LA damage that can't be enhanced by our stats goes live, then I'm out. I love my LAs/HAs to feel impactful like the single player games. If ZOS think that me intentionally gimping my DPS like that in favour of a personally enjoyable playstyle is somehow OP and needs a mega nerf... Clearly this is not the game for me anymore.

    Today is the day of major changes. If they don't change it now or week 5, it will probably make it into live. Week 5 sometimes has some major changes, but that only happens with extreme negative player feedback or when something is actually really broken.
  • StamPlar_1976
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    Asking for patch notes at 2 in the morning. Seriously?
  • Lady_Galadhiel
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    I would give it another 7 hours from now till we will see them.
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  • redlink1979
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    So here we are, the D-Day.
    Let's hope for the best.
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  • mmtaniac
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    Notes needed.
    Edited by mmtaniac on July 25, 2022 10:12AM
  • divnyi
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    Waiting for a notes to tell y'all that I've told ya it would happen.
  • BretonMage
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    Soon.
  • JustAGoodPlayer
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    I hope this little funny video will make a little fun to you.

    And that we will not get bad update.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7wg8JRHPkk
  • Pet
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    Sallymen wrote: »
    Best case scenario, they completely drop the combat changes and just give us the dungeons as it is.

    Worst case scenario, they ignore player feedback and do whatever they want.

    Most likely scenario, they revert dot ticks but still reduce their damage.

    Bonus points if they buff crystal weapon / Frag after going into the trouble of nerfing it

    Reducing the damage of the dots/healing of hots a bit is whatevs, it's the duration/tick frequency changes that make it so clunky and unintuitive.
  • Katheriah
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    Lykeion wrote: »
    Normally, the natch pote is released a few hours after the update. I agree that it should be released in advance

    Just saying that in my job the only times I'm not sending notes up front, is when I'm not really convinced everything I'm releasing is going to work on live. o:)o:)o:)
  • seventyfive
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    Jazraena wrote: »

    Honestly, rn anything but best case will likely have me stop PvP ... [continues]

    Is there a particular reason for what? Two previously overtuned and overused pvp sets are being nerfed, the overpowered easymode oakensoul is also being nerfed, a total of at least 3-4 unbalanced skills from 2-3 classes are being balanced. A massive improvement the way I see it. On top of that, the nocturnal is definitely going to get nerfed before release, same with the surprise attack, probably in just a few hours. Oh and 1 or 2 of those sorc/warden abilities that were hit slightly too hard will probably also see a minor buff before release, leaving them balanced.

    Edited by seventyfive on July 25, 2022 12:58PM
  • Sandman929
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    Patch Notes dread...used to be hype...
  • deleted221205-002626
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    Once again I am asking you for your natch potes.

    its maintenance not patch day!
  • BlueRaven
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    sinnereso wrote: »
    Once again I am asking you for your natch potes.

    its maintenance not patch day!

    It’s patch day for the pts, I believe.
  • Jazraena
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    Jazraena wrote: »

    Honestly, rn anything but best case will likely have me stop PvP ... [continues]

    Is there a particular reason for what? Two previously overtuned and overused pvp sets are being nerfed, the overpowered easymode oakensoul is also being nerfed, a total of at least 3-4 unbalanced skills from 2-3 classes are being balanced. A massive improvement the way I see it. On top of that, the nocturnal is definitely going to get nerfed before release, same with the surprise attack, probably in just a few hours. Oh and 1 or 2 of those sorc/warden abilities that were hit slightly too hard will probably also see a minor buff before release, leaving them balanced.

    Because a) I'm done with sweeping changes that force me to relearn my chars before ever really getting the hang of it and b) because the various damage changes will shift things towards a tank meta even further than it already is.

    I'm not doing that again just so they waltz over it in U36 once more. I already only managed to keep 2 chars PvP capable next to my other activities.
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    Jazraena wrote: »
    Jazraena wrote: »

    Honestly, rn anything but best case will likely have me stop PvP ... [continues]

    Is there a particular reason for what? Two previously overtuned and overused pvp sets are being nerfed, the overpowered easymode oakensoul is also being nerfed, a total of at least 3-4 unbalanced skills from 2-3 classes are being balanced. A massive improvement the way I see it. On top of that, the nocturnal is definitely going to get nerfed before release, same with the surprise attack, probably in just a few hours. Oh and 1 or 2 of those sorc/warden abilities that were hit slightly too hard will probably also see a minor buff before release, leaving them balanced.

    Because a) I'm done with sweeping changes that force me to relearn my chars before ever really getting the hang of it and b) because the various damage changes will shift things towards a tank meta even further than it already is.

    I'm not doing that again just so they waltz over it in U36 once more. I already only managed to keep 2 chars PvP capable next to my other activities.

    No it wont shift to tank meta... tanks and heals brutally struggled for DPS in early eso. Its maybw how it should be again but not quite to that extreme.

    The issue now imo is a healer fully geared and spec'd heals can out dps most dps! And many tanks too! This isnt ok.
    Edited by deleted221205-002626 on July 25, 2022 1:07PM
  • JustAGoodPlayer
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    Sandman929 wrote: »
    Patch Notes dread...used to be hype...

    I hope : patch not = dead =))) :smiley:
  • Tyrobag
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    I wonder if Zo$ senses the thousands of eso+ subs hanging in the balance?..
  • Jazraena
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    sinnereso wrote: »
    Jazraena wrote: »
    Jazraena wrote: »

    Honestly, rn anything but best case will likely have me stop PvP ... [continues]

    Is there a particular reason for what? Two previously overtuned and overused pvp sets are being nerfed, the overpowered easymode oakensoul is also being nerfed, a total of at least 3-4 unbalanced skills from 2-3 classes are being balanced. A massive improvement the way I see it. On top of that, the nocturnal is definitely going to get nerfed before release, same with the surprise attack, probably in just a few hours. Oh and 1 or 2 of those sorc/warden abilities that were hit slightly too hard will probably also see a minor buff before release, leaving them balanced.

    Because a) I'm done with sweeping changes that force me to relearn my chars before ever really getting the hang of it and b) because the various damage changes will shift things towards a tank meta even further than it already is.

    I'm not doing that again just so they waltz over it in U36 once more. I already only managed to keep 2 chars PvP capable next to my other activities.

    No it wont shift to tank meta... tanks and heals brutally struggled for DPS in early eso. Its maybw how it should be again but not quite to that extreme.

    The issue now imo is a healer fully geared and spec'd heals can out dps most dps! And many tanks too! This isnt ok.

    I don't think you and I are talking about the same thing here.
  • Elsonso
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    Darkstorne wrote: »
    Today's are likely to go live with only minor changes, right? Last real chance for a major change in direction?

    So today is the day I decide whether to move on to another MMO. I've played ESO since beta, but my main is a StamSorc LA build. If the fixed low LA damage that can't be enhanced by our stats goes live, then I'm out. I love my LAs/HAs to feel impactful like the single player games. If ZOS think that me intentionally gimping my DPS like that in favour of a personally enjoyable playstyle is somehow OP and needs a mega nerf... Clearly this is not the game for me anymore.

    Today is the day of major changes. If they don't change it now or week 5, it will probably make it into live. Week 5 sometimes has some major changes, but that only happens with extreme negative player feedback or when something is actually really broken.

    They are not going to make big changes in Week 5. Weeks 1, 3, and 4 are where it is at, and Week 4 is an outside bet. Well, so is Week 3, but maybe not this time.

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  • deleted221205-002626
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    Jazraena wrote: »
    sinnereso wrote: »
    Jazraena wrote: »
    Jazraena wrote: »

    Honestly, rn anything but best case will likely have me stop PvP ... [continues]

    Is there a particular reason for what? Two previously overtuned and overused pvp sets are being nerfed, the overpowered easymode oakensoul is also being nerfed, a total of at least 3-4 unbalanced skills from 2-3 classes are being balanced. A massive improvement the way I see it. On top of that, the nocturnal is definitely going to get nerfed before release, same with the surprise attack, probably in just a few hours. Oh and 1 or 2 of those sorc/warden abilities that were hit slightly too hard will probably also see a minor buff before release, leaving them balanced.

    Because a) I'm done with sweeping changes that force me to relearn my chars before ever really getting the hang of it and b) because the various damage changes will shift things towards a tank meta even further than it already is.

    I'm not doing that again just so they waltz over it in U36 once more. I already only managed to keep 2 chars PvP capable next to my other activities.

    No it wont shift to tank meta... tanks and heals brutally struggled for DPS in early eso. Its maybw how it should be again but not quite to that extreme.

    The issue now imo is a healer fully geared and spec'd heals can out dps most dps! And many tanks too! This isnt ok.

    I don't think you and I are talking about the same thing here.

    I'd have to agree with you there.. TBH I cant even find the post i was responding to in here! lol forum bug?
  • starkerealm
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    Tyrobag wrote: »
    I wonder if Zo$ senses the thousands of eso+ subs hanging in the balance?..

    They don't have a clue. The community has gotten very good about crying wolf, to the point that now, when we're serious, they're writing it off.

    Also, it's not just the ESO+ subs. I kinda wonder how many crown sales they're going to lose because of the carry sellers wandering off the platform.
  • FantasticFreddie
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    Sandman929 wrote: »
    Patch Notes dread...used to be hype...

    Yep. I have fills lined up for my run tonight because people have already told me they might quit on seeing the patch notes....

    I'm dreading them. I'm trying to remain hopeful, but in my hearts of hearts I expect them to be bad.
  • Mr_Stach
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    After reviewing feedback, we've removed Combat.
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  • FantasticFreddie
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    Mr_Stach wrote: »
    After reviewing feedback, we've removed Combat.

    Entire game is now story mode, and we've removed pvp entirely
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