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Buff or Nerf Oakensoul
Fingolfinn01
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Oakensoul the most celebrated mythic and also to many detested. What future would you like to see for the ring.
PC-NA
Buff or Nerf Oakensoul 283 votes
Buff Oakensoul
18%
52 votes
Nerf Oakensoul
21%
62 votes
Leave Oakensoul as it is
54%
153 votes
Other
5%
16 votes
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EnerG✭✭✭✭✭Leave Oakensoul as it isIts fine for pve, for pvp i hear its a little too much. But zos wont bother to balance gear seperate for pve/pvp and so itll get nerfed for pvp and ruin it for pve.
Yeah its not too strong in pve, but options are good.13 -
dinokstrunz✭✭✭✭✭
✭Nerf OakensoulRemove the major heroism & courage buffs or make it inactive in areas of that use battle spirit.12 -
TaSheen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Leave Oakensoul as it isPlease just leave it as is, so that my crap internet and reflexes don't make me die all the time.______________________________________________________
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Didgerion✭✭✭✭✭
✭OtherThere is nothing wrong with Oakensoul, except it gives buffs that are really hard to get on two bars.
Make those buffs easy to get on 2 bar builds and leave it as is.4 -
Vylaera✭✭✭✭✭
✭Buff OakensoulBuff it, embrace the one bar chaos meta lfg
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭What I'd like to see is irrelevant.
What's going to happen if ZOS follows their recurring habit is that Oakensoul will be joining Thrassians Stranglers, Ring of the Pale Order, Malacath's Band of Brutality, and Harpooners Wading Kilt in the "Club of Mythic Items who got Nerfed once their Chapter wasn't Brand New."
I mean...it's a pattern now.
What I'd like to see is ZOS commit to balancing Mythic Items right the first time, instead of releasing Items only to nerf them an update or two later when it turns out the PTS warnings were correct.
But that would mean less sales from people who want those exclusive Mythic Items for the two-three months where they're powerful, so it won't happen.36 -
Solariken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Leave Oakensoul as it isVaranisArano wrote: »What I'd like to see is irrelevant.
What's going to happen if ZOS follows their recurring habit is that Oakensoul will be joining Thrassians Stranglers, Ring of the Pale Order, Malacath's Band of Brutality, and Harpooners Wading Kilt in the "Club of Mythic Items who got Nerfed once their Chapter wasn't Brand New."
I mean...it's a pattern now.
What I'd like to see is ZOS commit to balancing Mythic Items right the first time, instead of releasing Items only to nerf them an update or two later when it turns out the PTS warnings were correct.
But that would mean less sales from people who want those exclusive Mythic Items for the two-three months where they're powerful, so it won't happen.
Mostly this.
I'd rather see a nerf to Caluurion, Corrosive, and Undeath.
However I wouldn't mind if Major Heroism was removed from Oakensoul.6 -
Tharonil✭✭✭Buff OakensoulTo make it viable in PvE for me, it really would need a buff.
I've tested the ring and was very disappointed.
Two of those"buffs" from the ring i can get with only one"rally" skill (+20% dmg, + stam reg).
So the ring doesn't offer a great boost, if I compare it with malacath or pale order AND I lose my offhand weapon.
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Fingolfinn01✭✭✭✭Buff OakensoulIf they buff Oakensoul more would it have a ripple effect and make make future Dungeons and trials difficult?
Would it end up as a must have for pvp? Can 2 bar builds out perform Oakensoul pvp build?PC-NA4 -
Aardappelboom✭✭✭✭✭Leave Oakensoul as it isOakensoul is fine, I've gotten it and used it in PVP, yes it's strong but not too strong.
I was very sceptical about the major heroism at first but loosing that second bar is definitely a sacrifice for a lot of things.
I have to say that it's a lot of fun, and I admit that it makes gameplay a lot more simple without the buff upkeep, question is if that's a bad thing.
As long as dual barring gives better results it can stay as is as far as I'm concerned.Edited by Aardappelboom on July 2, 2022 10:03AM5 -
Crimsonwolf666✭✭✭✭If it kills all those OP super Zergs running around in Cyrodiil then good on it. We have a campaign/roughly 2 that are always comprised of newbies. And these super ballzergs run around, despite various siege and even some well placed negates and still dominate whislt running ADDONS that purposely cause lag..... if Oakenring is causing them grief...GOOD.6 -
Dogvahkiin✭✭✭Nerf OakensoulTo be honest, it needs a nerf.
It favors already braindead simple classes and builds (Templer, Sorc) with strong spammables, especially in not perfectly optimized groups and 4-people-content.
Mythics should have an opportunity cost - if you only use 2-3 abilities by default, it's a straightup MASSIVE buff.
I think it would be in the right spot as accessibility item, if they remove Major Berserk and Major Force.
Maybe leave Major heroism for some niche ulti-gen builds.1 -
vesselwiththepestle✭✭✭✭✭
✭Nerf OakensoulRemove it from no cp pvp, please...1000+ CP
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mocap✭✭✭✭✭
✭just turn off some of the Major stuff from this ring while Battlespirit is active. Everyone will be happy.7 -
ADarklore✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Leave Oakensoul as it isI would hope that after all the struggles people went through to actually GET this ring, that they wouldn't nerf it... but this is ZOS, it's what they do. They buff an item when it comes out, and then nerf it a month or two later after people have spent HOURS, if DAYS, of their lives just trying to acquire it. Besides, hearing the stories of people who are disabled and have truly been helped by this ring, I would hope that for once they'd do the right thing and leave it alone.CP: 2078 ** ESO+ 2025 Content Pass ** ~~ ***** Strictly a solo PvE quester *****
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xilfxlegion✭✭✭✭✭Leave Oakensoul as it isleave it alone.
the other pattern is there will always be people complaining that something is op. nerf this and it will be something else - it is constant.
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NordSwordnBoard✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Nerf Oakensoulxilfxlegion wrote: »leave it alone.
the other pattern is there will always be people complaining that something is op. nerf this and it will be something else - it is constant.
If you watch the pattern over the years... you recognize this as stronger than the other mythics they previously nerfed or changed. Malacath and pale order are still useable, so is the torc.
They overtune these things to sell them. This time, they over did it with the lead grind on an item that was warned to be too much from pts testers.
I saw this pattern again and decided to pass on it this time. This must be a power budget outlier in no proc campaigns. It's made waves in the GH campaign. Turn Heroism into Slayer. Pvp players have used trial gears with it before if they liked the gear enough.
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danno8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Nerf OakensoulTo make it viable in PvE for me, it really would need a buff.
I've tested the ring and was very disappointed.
Two of those"buffs" from the ring i can get with only one"rally" skill (+20% dmg, + stam reg).
So the ring doesn't offer a great boost, if I compare it with malacath or pale order AND I lose my offhand weapon.
Unless you are a NB using Mark or wearing Kinras you also get Major Berserk always on for an extra 10% you didn't have before.
It's likely you didn't have Major Courage either for an extra 430 WD/SD
Major Force means you are getting Perma-Warhorn, an ultimate that typically is only available in large groups and Raids.
Major Resolve and Major Protection means you can drop one or two other various Class or Weapon line skills that offer these buffs.
The buffs for WD/SD means you don't need Rally, Betty or any of these other skills. All the minor skills for 15% recovery are just a bonus that can also help you drop other skills or potentially use other useful potions, especially since you don't need the Major SD/WD/WC/SC buffs from a potion anymore.
Major Heroism is a huge bonus that allows for you to build solely around an Ultimate since many have 15-20s durations and it becomes easy to build permanent uptime on powerful effects.
There is also the fact of not having to waste time swapping and GCDs pressing buttons for these skills anymore that adds to damage, dropping buff sets for other buff sets or straight up damage sets.
Oakensouls is just too good. There is a reason everyone wants it. People are not wasting days in front of lockboxes because they are all completionists.3 -
BalticBlues✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Nerf OakensoulOAKENSOAL - THE MOST OP ITEM EVER - PURE PAY-TO-WIN- OAKENSOAL GIVES SOLO PLAYERS THE BUFFS OF A RAID TEAM.
- No need anymore to pause attacks for re-buffs
- No need anymore to have a proper rotation
- Ultimate is ready superfast
- Even the original Malacath-Ring (later nerfed) looks pale against Oakensoal.
Quotes from Deltia (from attached video):- "Oakensoal is ABSOLUTELY [...] INSANE in PvP"
- "Like a WALKING GUN"
- "SUPER GOD MODE in PvP"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrkvlF5mecg[/quote] Edited by BalticBlues on July 2, 2022 2:35PM3 -
oldbobdude✭✭✭✭✭Leave Oakensoul as it isI did the Murkmire grind before they increased drop rates. I worked for that ring. Leave it alone.10 -
Aardappelboom✭✭✭✭✭Leave Oakensoul as it isNordSwordnBoard wrote: »xilfxlegion wrote: »leave it alone.
the other pattern is there will always be people complaining that something is op. nerf this and it will be something else - it is constant.
If you watch the pattern over the years... you recognize this as stronger than the other mythics they previously nerfed or changed. Malacath and pale order are still useable, so is the torc.
They overtune these things to sell them. This time, they over did it with the lead grind on an item that was warned to be too much from pts testers.
I saw this pattern again and decided to pass on it this time. This must be a power budget outlier in no proc campaigns. It's made waves in the GH campaign. Turn Heroism into Slayer. Pvp players have used trial gears with it before if they liked the gear enough.
I've seen class buffs, including the sorc buff recently thate are way more OP then this ring, the ring works a bit too good with certain combinations but that's a class problem, not a mythic problem.
I tried the ring and it works pretty well in PVP, it makes things easier but I really miss a second bar.
You loose a backbar set and 5 skills, including a second ultimate for flexibility, that's a pretty big sacrifice.
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ssewallb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭OtherMajor Heroism-->Minor Heroism
Major Force-->Major Slayer, make Slayer affect all PvE targets.
Add Minor Slayer
But yeah, it's just gonna get sledge hammer nerfed.3 -
Wolfpaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Leave Oakensoul as it isvesselwiththepestle wrote: »Remove it from no cp pvp, please...
This.
Remove all procs and mythics from all no-cp pvp.
No more nerfs hitting large scale CP content, & bring past nerfs back up.
At the most change major heroism to minor.
Major courage is fine, spc is one of the most popular support sets in game, and you can get it in a group or not.Edited by Wolfpaw on July 2, 2022 9:51PM0 -
EdmondDontes✭✭✭✭✭
✭Nerf OakensoulIt doesn't matter what the players think. The marketing department at ZOS is who calls the shots on issues like this.2 -
EdmondDontes✭✭✭✭✭
✭Nerf OakensoulAardappelboom wrote: »NordSwordnBoard wrote: »xilfxlegion wrote: »leave it alone.
the other pattern is there will always be people complaining that something is op. nerf this and it will be something else - it is constant.
If you watch the pattern over the years... you recognize this as stronger than the other mythics they previously nerfed or changed. Malacath and pale order are still useable, so is the torc.
They overtune these things to sell them. This time, they over did it with the lead grind on an item that was warned to be too much from pts testers.
I saw this pattern again and decided to pass on it this time. This must be a power budget outlier in no proc campaigns. It's made waves in the GH campaign. Turn Heroism into Slayer. Pvp players have used trial gears with it before if they liked the gear enough.
I've seen class buffs, including the sorc buff recently thate are way more OP then this ring, the ring works a bit too good with certain combinations but that's a class problem, not a mythic problem.
I tried the ring and it works pretty well in PVP, it makes things easier but I really miss a second bar.
You loose a backbar set and 5 skills, including a second ultimate for flexibility, that's a pretty big sacrifice.
No you haven't. There is math involved here that proves you have not seen class buffs that exceed what Oakensoul does.3 -
Urzigurumash✭✭✭✭✭
✭VaranisArano wrote: »What I'd like to see is irrelevant.
What's going to happen if ZOS follows their recurring habit is that Oakensoul will be joining Thrassians Stranglers, Ring of the Pale Order, Malacath's Band of Brutality, and Harpooners Wading Kilt in the "Club of Mythic Items who got Nerfed once their Chapter wasn't Brand New."
I mean...it's a pattern now.
What I'd like to see is ZOS commit to balancing Mythic Items right the first time, instead of releasing Items only to nerf them an update or two later when it turns out the PTS warnings were correct.
But that would mean less sales from people who want those exclusive Mythic Items for the two-three months where they're powerful, so it won't happen.
Mostly this.
I'd rather see a nerf to Caluurion, Corrosive, and Undeath.
However I wouldn't mind if Major Heroism was removed from Oakensoul.
You forgot Jabs and Javelin
Perma Jabs is greater than or equal to Perma Corrosive, true or false?
However overpowered Major Heroism made Corrosive, this ring did the same by relieving Mag Sustain with Jabs - more than any other spammable because Jabs is the best spammable, just like Corrosive is the best Ult.
From what I've seen both specs, Perma Jabs and Perma Corrosive, are much, much stronger than any other non-Stealth Melee scheme.
Edited by Urzigurumash on July 2, 2022 6:58PMXbox NA AD / Day 1 ScrubDK / Wood Orc Cuisine Enthusiast0 -
Zer0oo✭✭✭✭✭
✭Buff OakensoulI love how unbalanced it is and how it enables the most broken things in PVP.
Make it t a 1buttom mystic that 1shots everything. I really think using 5 different keys is still too much of a hassle.
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emilyhyoyeon✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Nerf Oakensoulnerf/disable it in pvpIGN @ emilypumpkin, imperial pumpkin seller
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