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Thanks for making Oakensoul
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OnnuK✭✭✭✭for PvE DPS;
If the Trial/veteran dungeon Group is well organised 2 Bar will always beat 1 Bar Oakensoul
But as you know most of us get into random trial/veteran dungeon so not getting all the buffs from tank/Healer/Support DD Oakensoul will rule them all!
for PvP I believe it will be the best of all (even with the 2 bar)
Thank you ZOS for this and it gives different and fresh perspective. I love it. Besides here is you solution to "cannot swap due to lag" issue, no need to update 2012 servers ;-DDD
Edited by OnnuK on June 27, 2022 8:39AMPC/EU @onnuk, Guild: ANADOLU "|H1:guild:29269|hAnadolu|h"1 -
Belidos✭✭✭✭✭Jeffrey530 wrote: »Let’s not praise Zenimax for putting an accessibility item behind a paywall and multiple hours of grinding. It’s a horrible practice.
Ikr because we bought the base game for £10, zos must give us free updates and new items every year, oh also they should be mailed directly to us, why even grind in a mmo. Such horrible practice that a company needs to make as much profit as possible, passion in making games will pay most of the bills. /s
The keywords here are "accessibility item". I think many of us understand the real reason they released this item, but it is ZOS themselves that made the "accessibility item" claim. Would you charge someone for ramp access if they didn't want to or couldn't use the stairs? C'mon now.
Hmn, maybe i need to go back to the contractor who converted my for path and steps into a ramp for wheelchair access, or the company that sold me a stair lift to get up the stairs on, and demand my money back
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MidniteOwl1913✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Jeffrey530 wrote: »Let’s not praise Zenimax for putting an accessibility item behind a paywall and multiple hours of grinding. It’s a horrible practice.
Ikr because we bought the base game for £10, zos must give us free updates and new items every year, oh also they should be mailed directly to us, why even grind in a mmo. Such horrible practice that a company needs to make as much profit as possible, passion in making games will pay most of the bills. /s
The keywords here are "accessibility item". I think many of us understand the real reason they released this item, but it is ZOS themselves that made the "accessibility item" claim. Would you charge someone for ramp access if they didn't want to or couldn't use the stairs? C'mon now.
Hmn, maybe i need to go back to the contractor who converted my for path and steps into a ramp for wheelchair access, or the company that sold me a stair lift to get up the stairs on, and demand my money back
But you don't expect the company that made the wheelchair to give it to you for free do you?
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langewapper✭✭✭EdmondDontes wrote: »Oakensoul is for players that think buying the latest expansion should put their playing strength on equal par with those who have spent years learning to optimize their rotations and play style.
Oakensoul is pay to win.
thanks to lag or slow connection changing front to back bar would take between 3-5 seconds in pvp
and then your dead so inusable in pvp
now i finally can kill somebody in pvp thanks oakensoul
not every player has super fast connections in this world or latest 64 cores CPU
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Belidos✭✭✭✭✭MidniteOwl1913 wrote: »Jeffrey530 wrote: »Let’s not praise Zenimax for putting an accessibility item behind a paywall and multiple hours of grinding. It’s a horrible practice.
Ikr because we bought the base game for £10, zos must give us free updates and new items every year, oh also they should be mailed directly to us, why even grind in a mmo. Such horrible practice that a company needs to make as much profit as possible, passion in making games will pay most of the bills. /s
The keywords here are "accessibility item". I think many of us understand the real reason they released this item, but it is ZOS themselves that made the "accessibility item" claim. Would you charge someone for ramp access if they didn't want to or couldn't use the stairs? C'mon now.
Hmn, maybe i need to go back to the contractor who converted my for path and steps into a ramp for wheelchair access, or the company that sold me a stair lift to get up the stairs on, and demand my money back
But you don't expect the company that made the wheelchair to give it to you for free do you?
Exactly my point. We don't get free accessibility items in real life, why should we in a game?0 -
MidniteOwl1913✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Being differently-abled I'm looking forward to the ring when I finally manage to get it. The crab and the Murky box are a real pain.
I have little interest in PVP, but just from reading the comments in posts on this forum, it seems there are a lot of things that "break" it. Is this that much worse than any of those?
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RodneyRegis✭✭✭✭✭BalticBlues wrote: »
Sorry, but you do not understand the concept of the ring.World First Veteran Dreadsail Reef Trifecta[...]
Please don't nerf hard this ring when end game DPS run 2 bars !- The Oakensoal ring gives solo players the buffs of a raid team.
- Therefore, the Oakensoal ring is useless in a raid, because there you already have the buffs of the raid team, and then two bars are still better (and required).
- The Oakensoal ring is insanely OP in solo content, like vMA, vVateshran or PvP, because now you can play there solo with all the buffs which were meant for a raid context.
I tested it two times in VMA , TBH not really instanely OP but less stressful , score is about the same , teag I got some raid buffs but I lost my DOT bar....
Maybe it's another story in PVP right ?
Guess we have to predict , what buffs will ZOS remove from this ring ?
I didn't notice a massive diff in vMA fights are generally too short and lacking in many timed mechanics, but Vatshran is a different story. I'd never got close to no-death, or completion in much under an hour. With Oakensoul I finished in 32 mins yesterday with one (needless) death. I can skip every mechanic on all boss fights, never see a chain at the endboss and completely ignore the fire-add. And that's with 1 offensive set, I was running withered hand for heaven's sake. If I switched that out for PFG or something more meta it would be even more ridiculous. Of course, loads of players were skipping mechs with 2-bar setups, but I wasn't - so that just shows how insanely over-powered it is in solo PVE.
I hope when the nerf inevitably comes it's a simple blanket "this will not work in PVP", or at least removing some of the buffs in PVP. Possibly just "you cannot become invisible in PVP areas when this item is equipped".Edited by RodneyRegis on June 27, 2022 9:13AM3 -
Katlefiya✭✭✭✭✭RodneyRegis wrote: »Of course, loads of players were skipping mechs with 2-bar setups, but I wasn't - so that just shows how insanely over-powered it is in solo PVE.
Is it really "insanely over-powered" because it allows you to do something which "loads of players" did without it?I hope when the nerf inevitably comes it's a simple blanket "this will not work in PVP", or at least removing some of the buffs in PVP. Possibly just "you cannot become invisible in PVP areas when this item is equipped".
I like this suggestion.
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dutchusuk✭✭✭I am happy with the ring, I play the game as a 60 year old player solo, maybe now I can do vet dungeons.
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deleted221205-002626✭✭✭✭✭I dont see the issue with the ring.. Yes its OP for 1bar but not compared to 2bars. It's biggest weakness is you only have 1bar and can be exploited to your advantage if you know whats goin on.3
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RodneyRegis✭✭✭✭✭RodneyRegis wrote: »Of course, loads of players were skipping mechs with 2-bar setups, but I wasn't - so that just shows how insanely over-powered it is in solo PVE.
Is it really "insanely over-powered" because it allows you to do something which "loads of players" did without it?I hope when the nerf inevitably comes it's a simple blanket "this will not work in PVP", or at least removing some of the buffs in PVP. Possibly just "you cannot become invisible in PVP areas when this item is equipped".
I like this suggestion.
Well - if a mediocre player like me can use it with a base-game defensive set to half their time then yeah, I think so. Sure, no elite player is going to use this as there are stronger alternatives requiring more skill, but to improve "normal" players' performance that much is pretty crazy.3 -
Tanis-Stormbinder✭✭✭✭✭If and when a nerf comes it should be for PVP players only. I personally don't use the ring but it has its place among less capable players in PVE.6 -
Aces-High-82✭✭✭✭JanTanhide wrote: »Agree. It's a nice addition to the game. Hope ZOS doesn't nerf it again.
Judging by the number of topics/posts decrying how "OP" it is, we can only hope it remains untouched.
As far as PvE goes it's a nice addition. But the major heroism enabled a true PvP monster with the perma corrosive DK. Stam sorcs benefited also but their healing is subpar. Ganking became easier too be it HA DK or Stamblade.0 -
Hawkeye✭✭✭✭Holycannoli wrote: »Let’s also not let this exempt the Oakensoul item from criticism. Major courage and major force are provided by healers or tanks, and no effort has to be required on a DPS’ part to have these buffs. Why are these buffs included in the buff list from the mythic? Many of the buffs it gives are unjustified solely for accessibility reasons.
Oakensoul is a soloer's ring.
Really cause OP says that the ring helped in Veteran Dungeons. PvPers are saying it makes very strong set ups, and you’re saying it’s a solo item. It’s almost like it’s good everywhere and it’s too strong.
I get the feeling you are a pvp player. I made a comment in another thread about the pvp players getting upset about it. So just remove it from the pvp areas. Problem solved. As for those of us who are not into running groups all the time? It is nice to have options. I am happy for the OP's sister! As well as all the others who use the ring and enjoy playing a different way.What is the definition of insanity? Ask ZOS.5 -
deleted221205-002626✭✭✭✭✭Tanis-Stormbinder wrote: »If and when a nerf comes it should be for PVP players only. I personally don't use the ring but it has its place among less capable players in PVE.
Id like to see everything rebalanced so there is no seperaton between pve and pve... skills and gear should work exactly the same way everywhere always imo!0 -
Parasaurolophus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I also like the idea and purpose of this ring. Although I haven't used it anywhere yet, I have low skill friends and get good feedback from them. But for the sake of the divines! Remove it from pvp!PC/EU0 -
TechMaybeHic✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭You all that keep saying "disable it for pvp" really don't see that there might be doing the same thing for someone like the OP there?
Really; it could still do that and fairly with 2 or 3 of the uncommon major buffs turned to minor.0 -
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✭Tanis-Stormbinder wrote: »If and when a nerf comes it should be for PVP players only. I personally don't use the ring but it has its place among less capable players in PVE.
Id like to see everything rebalanced so there is no seperaton between pve and pve... skills and gear should work exactly the same way everywhere always imo!
That would require some massive changes to the PvE experience. You would have to nerf all healing massively, or at least all stacking of heals which would probably mean you had to respec all the squishy DPS builds we have today. For example if you got rid of the battle spirit nonsense and made all the heals actually non-stackable buffs then it would work, but things like trial healing would change dramatically.
For PvP it's overstrong, for PvE maybe - but perhaps just needs to have a couple of buffs removed or an 8% skill cost penalty or similar. The latter would IMHO work well as the people who are running one bar for physical ability reasons and struggle the most with controls also seem to be heavy attack builds for obvious reasons so would be least affected.
Doesn't mean it will get nerfed though. PvE dark convergence and titanic cleave is still insanely overpowered and hasn't been touched in several releases. The DK ash cloud trick is borderline exploit but hasn't been touched.
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Toxic_Hemlock✭✭✭✭✭
✭IMO if it makes the elite and high end player god like, so be it. Those players don't need it anyways but if they want to limit their abilities by using the ring, so be it. Also I was as sure when I heard about it, as I am now that there will always be someone out there making a god build for this ring; and again I say so be it.
As for the rest of us that just want to be able to do some content that was beyond our ability to do (ESO+ too), it is a blessing!
If they nerf it, I can only hope they only do it in competitive areas. In PvE areas though it makes me feel more like the hero I am supposed to be instead of feeling like the clumsy brother of that hero.
Edit: clarityEdited by Toxic_Hemlock on June 27, 2022 11:56AM4 -
Massive_Stain✭✭✭✭My disabled sister with cerebral palsy can now do vets with me.
This is great! And this is what Oakensoul seems to be for as well. I am very happy for you and your sister!PC: CP 1200+ DroDest, Bringer of light
PS4: CP 1500+ Dro Dest, SoTN, Bringer of light, CragHMs, EoF, IR, TTT
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mocap✭✭✭✭✭
✭It's really great! Though i a bit don't understand why you waited for so long? One bar builds have been around for quite some time.
I think Deltia have even ONE BUTTON build, and he did vMA and vetShran with it.Edited by mocap on June 27, 2022 11:46AM1 -
Katlefiya✭✭✭✭✭RodneyRegis wrote: »RodneyRegis wrote: »Of course, loads of players were skipping mechs with 2-bar setups, but I wasn't - so that just shows how insanely over-powered it is in solo PVE.
Is it really "insanely over-powered" because it allows you to do something which "loads of players" did without it?I hope when the nerf inevitably comes it's a simple blanket "this will not work in PVP", or at least removing some of the buffs in PVP. Possibly just "you cannot become invisible in PVP areas when this item is equipped".
I like this suggestion.
Well - if a mediocre player like me can use it with a base-game defensive set to half their time then yeah, I think so. Sure, no elite player is going to use this as there are stronger alternatives requiring more skill, but to improve "normal" players' performance that much is pretty crazy.
If ZOS really wants to "raise the floor" in order to decrease the gap between "normal" and "good" players, than this ring is a success, right? This feeling of not deserving it as a self-perceived "mediocre player" is only because the "elite" wants you to think that they are so much better than you.4 -
iaminc✭✭✭✭This is exactly why this ring is so good and an important one in ESO , OP I am so happy you and your sister can enjoy vet content together!
@ZOS_MattFiror @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Gilliam I hope you guys see the comments on here regarding how much this is helping people enjoy ESO and make sure it stays as it is.Edited by iaminc on June 27, 2022 12:43PM4 -
iaminc✭✭✭✭I could live with the ring only working in PvE. I would hate for it to be ruined in PvE only because it might be OP in PvP. I say "might" because I'm not convinced at this point that it is in a general sense. Werewolves have great synergies with it. Other than that, DKs still seem to rule BGs, just like they did before the chapter.
PvP is fine , a 2 bar set up will always beat 1 bar.
It’s just all the 1vxers that hide behind op classes and crutch sets that don’t like it because others whether less able or don’t have access to the sets now have something to help them.1 -
TechMaybeHic✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I could live with the ring only working in PvE. I would hate for it to be ruined in PvE only because it might be OP in PvP. I say "might" because I'm not convinced at this point that it is in a general sense. Werewolves have great synergies with it. Other than that, DKs still seem to rule BGs, just like they did before the chapter.
PvP is fine , a 2 bar set up will always beat 1 bar.
It’s just all the 1vxers that hide behind op classes and crutch sets that don’t like it because others whether less able or don’t have access to the sets now have something to help them.
Ok so logic question here.
If 1vxers hide behind OP Classes and crutch sets, and this set helps others to compete with that; what does that make it?1
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