HonestLoverr wrote: »

PvP_Exploiter wrote: »

PvP overland?

Hell yea!

You wouldn't like it. No choke points and no objectives so no reason for players to congregate in one area. Basically it would be gankers at wayshrines hoping some other player with PvP flagged happens by.

EdmondDontes wrote: »

If ZOS creates a fully PvE cyrodiil they will just shut down PvP cyrodiil. They won't dev a new version or any new PvP zones. This is the direction they have been moving for 3-4 years now; shutting down PvP all together in favor of the casual PvE players who haven't yet realized how predatory the marketing is in this game.

There is already PvE in cyrodiil as well. It's nearly empty in some of the campaigns already so any PvE player shouldn't have any problems getting through the PvE content in one of the less populated campaigns without the need to create a new version of cyrodiil just for the PvE only "players".

Again, why isn't having 95% of the game PvE enough?

You keep coming at me with an artificial problem, it's a logical fallacy, and entirely moot stance.

A logical, non-toxic (😜), argument against "pvp everything" is that the ESO population just isn't there for it. This is why we're stuck with a vast, mostly empty, and predominantly dead map, and why the only expansion to PVP added since IC has been battlegrounds. It's not a logical counterpoint to an alternative PVE Cyrodiil which doesn't take that away from you and does have the population to make it worthwhile. However, what it does do is create an argument for medium scale PVP world events, like inter-zone skirmishes and incursions; battlegrounds on steroids that take place in non-instanced, free-to-roam regions bordering PVE zones. That doesn't mean we have to remove PVE, nor does the idea of a PVE Cyrodiil mean we have to get rid of PVP Cyrodiil. The 2 are completely unrelated. But, hey, I'd like to see both, because we actually can have both, with a modicum of imagination. 🤷

Vianca wrote: »

There are two pvp zones. Why do you want to take them away from us

Maybe actually read the original post.

Holycannoli wrote: »

For Cyrodiil you use the barely populated campaigns for PvE. You'll be lucky to see another player at all, let alone an enemy. And they might not even bother you because chances are they're there doing the same thing - PvE in an unpopulated PvP campaign.

This is how I completed Cyro. Dolmens were all done solo. Only delve I saw another player was near Cropsford, and just let each other run by. Town quests were just each player of other alliances doing own thing. Only ganked in Bruma by an EP player, but since my faction owned it at the time, I just respawned there and continued on with what I was doing and had no issue with it. The only delay was keeping an eye out on campaigns for when I could get the skyshards behind the alliance walls.

I have not completed IC yet, but plan to start focusing on completion during next midyear mayhem. I expect more getting ganked with this, but will do it.

I'm not a dungeon player, but right now I'm starting to do them because I want leads that I can only get from doing them. I know that if I want the rewards I have to play them, otherwise I'm not getting them. I feel the same when seeing requests to make Cyro have a PVE option. If you want the rewards play it as designed. If not willing, then just accept you're not going to complete it.