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... Anyone else finds Ember's voicing exceedingly weird?

  • ElvenOverlord
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    At least she doesn't sound like Aelif, the Khajiit from the Fighter's Guild storyline. That voice is so irritating I have to mute the sound anytime she opens her mouth.
    Edited by ElvenOverlord on June 7, 2022 10:02AM
  • karthrag_inak
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    She reminds this one of a Imoen from BG, with just thinnest veneer of Khajiit applied.
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  • Tornaad
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    I think her voice is the perfect blend of youthful zeal and childish troublemaker, which seems to fit her perfectly.
  • Fhritz
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    The French VA is neat tho, and fit the character even if it doesn't feel 100% Khajiit
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  • ectoplasmicninja
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    She sounds perfect to me. Young, excitable, mischievous. There's the hint of Khajiit in her accent but she didn't grow up in Elsweyr so her speech patterns are generically Tamrielic, which makes sense. When I first saw the image of her and heard that she would approve of crime, I thought she would be a grimdark serious hardened mercenary type, but I like this gleeful orphan with a troubled past thing way better.
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  • Grizzbeorn
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    I rather like Ember's voice.
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    • whitecrow
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      At least she doesn't sound like Aelif, the Khajiit from the Fighter's Guild storyline. That voice is so irritating I have to mute the sound anytime she opens her mouth.

      Aw, I loved her! That story's turn upset me greatly.
    • moleculardrugs
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      Ember grew up in the streets. She had to do anything to survive. The fact that she had to make herself sound less Khajiit to escape prejudice and get things for food and help speaks volumes about her character. I love her voice as she is.
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    • Mascen
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      I've tried to hold off on giving my two cents until I could fully analyze things and articulate the qualms in a polite manner but yes, Ember's VA sounds waaay off.

      I have no qualms with expanding the voice actors in game and acknowledge as @starlizard70ub17_ESO pointed out we have had Zhasim in Orsinium voiced by the legendary Steve Blum who doesn't speak with khajiti mannerisms. However Blum speaks as Zhasim with a Orcish grit yet also an inflection similar to the deeper khajiti voice actors.

      Now in regards to Ember and her voice actors performance, everything mentioned above that works for Zhasim gets thrown out the window. Ember's VA pitch and timbre sound nothing like the broad array of Khajiit voices in game and if anything sounds like a higher voice Breton or Bosmer. Perhaps it would be more believeable if spoken with more of a traditional Khajiti burr and I could buy that Ember picked up a Systres accent from her time on High Isle, but the accent the VA uses for her is.....alien. The cadence and pronunciation have a lit that sounds nothing like anyone else on High Isle or the rest of Tamriel for that matter; like its from the wrong game/universe. I haven't been able to pinpoint exactly what it reminds me of from the real world. Its like American-foreigner whose first language is a Latin rooted romance language. I wanna say Spanish or French?

      Point is I and alot of others it seems find it very jarring and maybe ZOS should fix it or at least learn from this for future VA castings.

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      Thanks for trying to steer us back on track and I hope you and the other devs are taking this into serious consideration.
    • LordRukia
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      I got ember last night and she's way less annoying than miri so it's a win
    • KitsuneShoujo
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      Her voice is fine, she's a street kid on a Breton island, not Elsewyr (and yes I know their affectation isn't localized to that country). Her eyes on the other hand need to be fixed.
    • tsaescishoeshiner
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      After this thread made me expect the worse—I LOVE Ember and her voice acting! She has a khajiiti accent in a more subtle way that totally makes sense for her background and works.

      Just my opinion, but I was very happily surprised with how good it sounds!
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    • Jaimeh
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      I don't have the companion yet, but I've watched videos of her quest, and I think she sounds completely Khajit-like, but that the actor is doing a so-so job at the Khajiiti accent--unless it's intentional--and maybe that's what throws people off. Same thing with a lot Reach NPCs imo, their accents were not very well done.
    • Mascen
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      Jaimeh wrote: »
      I don't have the companion yet, but I've watched videos of her quest, and I think she sounds completely Khajit-like, but that the actor is doing a so-so job at the Khajiiti accent--unless it's intentional--and maybe that's what throws people off. Same thing with a lot Reach NPCs imo, their accents were not very well done.

      Nah she doesn't sound Khajiiti at all, she sounds like a high pitched American voicing a Breton or a Wood Elf with a strange accent. Like i said above its in the vibrating timbre of the khajiti voices; similiar in a way like how argonians sound raspy and gravelly because both are beastfolk and as such their differences also affect their speech and pronunciation hence the Elsweyr burr we call the khajiti accent.

      As for the reachfolk, yeah they went for the typical Glaswegian accent most Americans think all Scottish people sound like with the elongated vowels and rolling r's. It sounds nice but personally I think ZOS should've gone for something a bit more airy and Scandinavian. Less stereotypic German like Angof and some of the Western Skyrim Norda VAs
    • LadyLethalla
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      IMO Ember's eyes are weird... idk why they didn't make them look like every other Khajiit's in the game. But other than that, so far I do like her better than Mirri or Bastian.
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    • NotaDaedraWorshipper
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      IMO Ember's eyes are weird...

      Oh, by just googling pictures of her it looks like she got the Darloc's Golden Eyes from the crown crates. Yeah, that's a bit odd.
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    • captainwolfos
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      Her voice seems fine to me, but her eyes...

      Her face in general is a little odd, but her eyes especially. And it's not just because of the Darloc eyes, but also because, for me at least, her eyes glitch through her eyelids when she blinks. She is forever watching...
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    • Vhale
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      It would be nice to have a khajit companion who talks like this one. Gives Sammy a sense of home.

      But Ember is pretty fun to hang around with, although this one thought she gave rapport for successful pickpocketing, but nothing yet, not even stealing from guards.

      She has been made happy by looting of thieves troves for me. I agree her voice is nice but was a bit jarring at first. Might be a nice option to customize later. We have many outfits, pets and mounts. Not so many voices.
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    • OldStygian
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      Her voice is fine, she's a street kid on a Breton island, not Elsewyr (and yes I know their affectation isn't localized to that country). Her eyes on the other hand need to be fixed.

      God yes. Her googly eye's and the mop she has attached to the back of he head. What self respecting feline would let themselves look like that??
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      She sounds perfect to me. Young, excitable, mischievous. There's the hint of Khajiit in her accent but she didn't grow up in Elsweyr so her speech patterns are generically Tamrielic, which makes sense. When I first saw the image of her and heard that she would approve of crime, I thought she would be a grimdark serious hardened mercenary type, but I like this gleeful orphan with a troubled past thing way better.
      Agree, its her enthusiasm is very nice. She could have a bit more Khajiit in her voice because an different mouth than humans but its far from bad.
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    • Rogue_WolfESO
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      Her voice is fine, however the fact she doesn't like stealing and you lose raport with her when doing so, is strange considering she is khajiit. Khajiit like to sneak...
    • NotaDaedraWorshipper
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      Her voice is fine, however the fact she doesn't like stealing and you lose raport with her when doing so, is strange considering she is khajiit. Khajiit like to sneak...

      She likes stealing, though to my knowledge. She only dislikes it if you get caught.
      Edited by NotaDaedraWorshipper on June 9, 2022 1:52PM
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    • ADarklore
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      Having finally spent a bit more time with Ember, as I've been focusing on leveling Isobel (who I think is absolutely awesome btw)... and have to agree about her voice. Although, I'm not talking 'weird' as in that it's not Khajiit... I'm saying weird in that she sounds like a child. Not just the whining tonal her voice has, but the, "Am I in trouble" just makes her seem even more like a child. Thankfully you only have to hear that if you actually interact with her, otherwise, you just have to deal with the rest of her dialogue which means more whining tonal in child-like vocals.
      Edited by ADarklore on June 9, 2022 9:12PM
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    • LalMirchi
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      Somehow I feel that companions voices are extensions of their backstories.

      Mirri is anxious, occasionally passive-aggressive and not easy to get along with, but she is agreeable (so she says). She is, however, very capable with the right build.

      Bastian is good to the point of being too good, but he does ask you if you're alright after a fight. He is a good match for a lawful good character.

      Isobel (my current favourite) is a knight. What's not to like. My lawful good Templar has put Baz on the bench for her atm.

      Ember is a breath of fresh air. I for one like the absence of classic Khajiit dialect and phrasing as I feel that that would be rather cliché. She is what she is, rather young and very enthusiastic. Well done!

      Ember is however an enigma to me. With her racial passives one will try to do a classic two dagger approach as she might be a mage now but an assassin she might be.
    • phairdon
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      IMO Ember's eyes are weird... idk why they didn't make them look like every other Khajiit's in the game. But other than that, so far I do like her better than Mirri or Bastian.

      Ember's voice is fine as far as I'm concerned. As for her eyes, thought she was high on skooma as mentioned in another discussion - "crazy cat eyes".
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    • ElvenOverlord
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      Her voice is fine, however the fact she doesn't like stealing and you lose raport with her when doing so, is strange considering she is khajiit. Khajiit like to sneak...

      Wait her rapport increases from entering the thieves guild HQ and doing heists but she doesn't like stealing....??
    • ElvenOverlord
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      LalMirchi wrote: »
      Somehow I feel that companions voices are extensions of their backstories.

      Mirri is anxious, occasionally passive-aggressive and not easy to get along with, but she is agreeable (so she says). She is, however, very capable with the right build.

      Bastian is good to the point of being too good, but he does ask you if you're alright after a fight. He is a good match for a lawful good character.

      Isobel (my current favourite) is a knight. What's not to like. My lawful good Templar has put Baz on the bench for her atm.

      Ember is a breath of fresh air. I for one like the absence of classic Khajiit dialect and phrasing as I feel that that would be rather cliché. She is what she is, rather young and very enthusiastic. Well done!

      Ember is however an enigma to me. With her racial passives one will try to do a classic two dagger approach as she might be a mage now but an assassin she might be.

      Always figured she was like a magblade assassin
    • Enemy-of-Coldharbour
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      I really enjoy Ember and I find her voice just fine. I just have a problem with her dreadlocks. I wish I could change her hair style.

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    • old_scopie1945
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      I thought I would, but now I quite enjoy it. It may not be 100% khajiit, but it doesn't worry me as much as I anticipated. Sa la vie.
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