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Smaller 21m dummy please
Hortator Indoril Nerevar
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Can we get a smaller 21m dummy please?
Maybe something along the size of a skeleton but with the same buffs?
It would really help some people with either small homes or large homes that dont fit or match a large one.
It would also make you a bunch of money zos because people would buy them.
To be clear... I want the dummy to have 21m health. I want it to do the same buffs etc. I just want the SIZE of the dummy to be smaller...
So please give us some much smaller 21m dummy stuff please.
Some people are responding saying a smaller dummy with less health but trial buffs is x y and z. I am NOT asking for a lower health trial buff dummy. I am asking for a 21m health trial dummy in a smaller physical size. The size of a skeleton but with 21m health and trial buffs. No idea if I was not clear enough or people are speed reading and responding too fast. Either way. THIS BOLD WARNING SHOULD FIX THAT.
Edited by Hortator Indoril Nerevar on May 12, 2022 2:59PM Maybe something along the size of a skeleton but with the same buffs?
It would really help some people with either small homes or large homes that dont fit or match a large one.
It would also make you a bunch of money zos because people would buy them.
To be clear... I want the dummy to have 21m health. I want it to do the same buffs etc. I just want the SIZE of the dummy to be smaller...
So please give us some much smaller 21m dummy stuff please.
Some people are responding saying a smaller dummy with less health but trial buffs is x y and z. I am NOT asking for a lower health trial buff dummy. I am asking for a 21m health trial dummy in a smaller physical size. The size of a skeleton but with 21m health and trial buffs. No idea if I was not clear enough or people are speed reading and responding too fast. Either way. THIS BOLD WARNING SHOULD FIX THAT.
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Dragonnord✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭But the purpose of a 21m parse dummy is to make sure you can manage your resources in a veteran trial boss without lowering your dps.
Less than 21m would lose the dummy purpose.
Edited by Dragonnord on May 12, 2022 2:50PM1 -
rauyran✭✭✭✭Dragonnord wrote: »But the purpose of a 21m parse dummy is to make sure you can manage your resources in a veteran trial boss without lowering your dps.
Less than 21m would lose the dummy purpose.
OP is asking for same HP but smaller size3 -
Amottica✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Dragonnord wrote: »But the purpose of a 21m parse dummy is to make sure you can manage your resources in a veteran trial boss without lowering your dps.
Less than 21m would lose the dummy purpose.
I agree. The smaller dummies are not very useful for this and a raid fight doesn’t have small bosses.0 -
Hortator Indoril Nerevar✭✭✭✭✭
✭Dragonnord wrote: »But the purpose of a 21m parse dummy is to make sure you can manage your resources in a veteran trial boss without lowering your dps.
Less than 21m would lose the dummy purpose.
Dragonnord wrote: »But the purpose of a 21m parse dummy is to make sure you can manage your resources in a veteran trial boss without lowering your dps.
Less than 21m would lose the dummy purpose.
I agree. The smaller dummies are not very useful for this and a raid fight doesn’t have small bosses.
I want a smaller 21m dummy. Same health. 21m.Dragonnord wrote: »But the purpose of a 21m parse dummy is to make sure you can manage your resources in a veteran trial boss without lowering your dps.
Less than 21m would lose the dummy purpose.
OP is asking for same HP but smaller size
Correct. Maybe I wasnt clear enough?...1 -
Dragonnord✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Oh! Got it now!
I agree then and hope ZOS can get you a shorter dummy.
Edited by Dragonnord on May 12, 2022 3:18PM0 -
perfiction✭✭✭✭✭Bad news for you, next 21m dummy won't be too small.new trial dummy from High Isle datamine: https://i.imgur.com/w1xPEKj.pngEdited by perfiction on May 12, 2022 3:32PM0 -
TwinLamps✭✭✭✭✭
✭Im in a thread filled with men demanding their dummy to be smaller.Awake, but at what cost2 -
DMuehlhausen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I'm guessing there will be one with High Isle or a DLC with it.
This chapter isn't focusing on Daedric Princes and magical worlds. The enemies are going to be all humanoid essentially and so are the bosses. I'm sure they will be slightly bigger to appear imposing, but nothing over the top.0 -
Hortator Indoril Nerevar✭✭✭✭✭
✭Dragonnord wrote: »Oh! Got it now!
I agree then and hope ZOS can get you a shorter dummy.
perfiction wrote: »Bad news for you, next 21m dummy won't be too small.new trial dummy from High Isle datamine: https://i.imgur.com/w1xPEKj.png
Yea rip that's why I want one put in
DMuehlhausen wrote: »I'm guessing there will be one with High Isle or a DLC with it.
This chapter isn't focusing on Daedric Princes and magical worlds. The enemies are going to be all humanoid essentially and so are the bosses. I'm sure they will be slightly bigger to appear imposing, but nothing over the top.
Hope so.0 -
Nestor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭While a high health Trial Boss should be big, i can see where the scale could be an issue. However, one could have issues if you were to bang on the smaller dummy with 12 players. But i know most parse solo, so there is that.
So, yes, a smaller Dummy as a choice. Maybe not Alfiq sized....Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
PakKat "Everything was going well, until I died"
Gary Gravestink "I am glad you died, I needed the help"0 -
merpins✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Not only would I like a smaller 21m dummy in size, but I'd also like one smaller in health. Sometimes I wanna go in, parse for 30 seconds, then leave. The 21m dummy takes a couple minutes to kill generally. Totally an unnecessary ask, but it'd be nice.
Cute or funny dummies would be nice. A scarecrow dummy, an NPC everyone hates, a literal target like for archery practice, stuff like that would be fun.0 -
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✭✭✭A smaller trial dummy that was the same in every way except size could still undermine the purpose of the trial dummy, which was to be a standard for comparable parses across classes.
This is because a smaller hit box would mean that certain proc sets like monster sets could parse differently. Velidreth is a perfect example of this. More the one spore hits the trial dummy because of its size, and this is often the case for actual in-game bosses, as well. Not so with a smaller hit box. So no more apples to apples parses.0 -
Hortator Indoril Nerevar✭✭✭✭✭
✭A smaller trial dummy that was the same in every way except size could still undermine the purpose of the trial dummy, which was to be a standard for comparable parses across classes.
This is because a smaller hit box would mean that certain proc sets like monster sets could parse differently. Velidreth is a perfect example of this. More the one spore hits the trial dummy because of its size, and this is often the case for actual in-game bosses, as well. Not so with a smaller hit box. So no more apples to apples parses.
Smaller visual size, larger invisible hit box. Simple fix.0 -
Succuby✭✭✭Already smaller size model of dummy is OP need to nerf it and make biger on this forum ?
Or like "you need not smaller dummy" answers ?))
If it will be smaller it will be more comfortable to train on it for you - so you will be better in DPS than them - so ... they will not make it happen )))
"Smaller dummy models ??? Nerf them !!!"0 -
DMuehlhausen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭MovesLikeJaguar wrote: »Not only would I like a smaller 21m dummy in size, but I'd also like one smaller in health. Sometimes I wanna go in, parse for 30 seconds, then leave. The 21m dummy takes a couple minutes to kill generally. Totally an unnecessary ask, but it'd be nice.
Cute or funny dummies would be nice. A scarecrow dummy, an NPC everyone hates, a literal target like for archery practice, stuff like that would be fun.
This you can do easily. There are other dummies. I get what you want, you want a 5M dummy that gives you all the buffs. They aren't going to do that though cause you would never face that in the game really.0 -
Hortator Indoril Nerevar✭✭✭✭✭
✭Already smaller size model of dummy is OP need to nerf it and make biger on this forum ?
Or like "you need not smaller dummy" answers ?))
If it will be smaller it will be more comfortable to train on it for you - so you will be better in DPS than them - so ... they will not make it happen )))
"Smaller dummy models ??? Nerf them !!!"
What lol?2 -
Malkiv✭✭✭✭✭Velidreth is a perfect example of this. More the one spore hits the trial dummy because of its size, and this is often the case for actual in-game bosses, as well. Not so with a smaller hit box. So no more apples to apples parses.
Veli only counts damage on the first orb to strike. All other orbs are screen decoration after one instance of damage has been calculated. So the damage is only calculated for one orb, even if all three hit. That change was made in 2019.PC-NA | PvP (Gray Host & BGs) | PvE (vTrials & vDGs)1 -
Hortator Indoril Nerevar✭✭✭✭✭
✭Velidreth is a perfect example of this. More the one spore hits the trial dummy because of its size, and this is often the case for actual in-game bosses, as well. Not so with a smaller hit box. So no more apples to apples parses.
Veli only counts damage on the first orb to strike. All other orbs are screen decoration after one instance of damage has been calculated. So the damage is only calculated for one orb, even if all three hit. That change was made in 2019.
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Oreyn_Bearclaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I would like a dummy where we can choose what health it has and which buffs/debuffs it provides. Right now we have dummy that provides nothing or dummy with so many things only good trial group would provide.
That would be cool. While we are at it, can we please add a reset button to dummies? Having to actually remove and place them back in your house is downright silly if you want to reset the health.0
