Thanks Oakensoul is Great! [Appriciation Post]

Captain_OP · May 2022

Oakensoul:
This set no longer grants 3737 Health, Magicka, and Stamina.
Replaced the Major Endurance, Fortitude, and Intellect with their Minor buff counterparts as these are far harder to obtain.
This set now also grants Major Brutality, Major Sorcery, Major Berserk, Major Protection, Major Force, and Major Heroism.

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YandereGirlfriend · May 2022

This set is now INSANE for PvP.

Vylaera · May 2022

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

This set is now INSANE for PvP.

Good. Not having a backbar with horrible bonuses made it unusable in PvP. It is now viable and build diversity has returned. This is good.

It's not OP by any stretch, since you lose a ton of utility for higher damage, but it's a good, viable, and competitive option.

YandereGirlfriend · May 2022

BroughBreaux wrote: »

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

This set is now INSANE for PvP.

Good. Not having a backbar with horrible bonuses made it unusable in PvP. It is now viable and build diversity has returned. This is good.

It's not OP by any stretch, since you lose a ton of utility for higher damage, but it's a good, viable, and competitive option.

I don't think that you realize how much better this set is than Malacath or Markyn or any of the other PvP Mythics.

It's also going to be significantly better in organized groups so the problems that many players have with getting farmed by ball groups are only going to get compounded.

bbpotts2ub17_ESO · May 2022

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

I don't think that you realize how much better this set is than Malacath or Markyn or any of the other PvP Mythics.

It's also going to be significantly better in organized groups so the problems that many players have with getting farmed by ball groups are only going to get compounded.

I really dont think this mythic is going to be the breaking point for ball groups. Ball groups are going to stomp and the only thing taking them out is going to be one good bomb build, or another organized group.
To say players are going to be farmed by organized groups is going to happen anyway, this mythic or not. It currently happens...

YandereGirlfriend · May 2022

bbpotts2ub17_ESO wrote: »

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

I don't think that you realize how much better this set is than Malacath or Markyn or any of the other PvP Mythics.

It's also going to be significantly better in organized groups so the problems that many players have with getting farmed by ball groups are only going to get compounded.

I really dont think this mythic is going to be the breaking point for ball groups. Ball groups are going to stomp and the only thing taking them out is going to be one good bomb build, or another organized group.
To say players are going to be farmed by organized groups is going to happen anyway, this mythic or not. It currently happens...

My point was that many of the voices who were calling for a restoration of this set generally do so within the general framework of "raising the floor" and "capping the ceiling."

This set certainly raises the floor with its absurd grab-bag of the game's best and heretofore rarest buffs but it also considerably raises the ceiling.

It's also likely problematic for cases such as Nightblade gankers who now get Major Courage, Major Force, Major Berserk, and a guaranteed Crit out of stealth along with constant Major Heroism for basically unlimited Incaps. Especially in a format like No-CP, that is an UNREAL amount of power.

Yarcanine · May 2022

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

bbpotts2ub17_ESO wrote: »

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

I don't think that you realize how much better this set is than Malacath or Markyn or any of the other PvP Mythics.

It's also going to be significantly better in organized groups so the problems that many players have with getting farmed by ball groups are only going to get compounded.

I really dont think this mythic is going to be the breaking point for ball groups. Ball groups are going to stomp and the only thing taking them out is going to be one good bomb build, or another organized group.
To say players are going to be farmed by organized groups is going to happen anyway, this mythic or not. It currently happens...

My point was that many of the voices who were calling for a restoration of this set generally do so within the general framework of "raising the floor" and "capping the ceiling."

This set certainly raises the floor with its absurd grab-bag of the game's best and heretofore rarest buffs but it also considerably raises the ceiling.

It's also likely problematic for cases such as Nightblade gankers who now get Major Courage, Major Force, Major Berserk, and a guaranteed Crit out of stealth along with constant Major Heroism for basically unlimited Incaps. Especially in a format like No-CP, that is an UNREAL amount of power.

Good thing they introduced a mythic called Sea-Serpents Coil. Which prevents you from getting ganked and also gives you major berserk and courage

merpins · May 2022

Yarcanine wrote: »

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

bbpotts2ub17_ESO wrote: »

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

I don't think that you realize how much better this set is than Malacath or Markyn or any of the other PvP Mythics.

It's also going to be significantly better in organized groups so the problems that many players have with getting farmed by ball groups are only going to get compounded.

I really dont think this mythic is going to be the breaking point for ball groups. Ball groups are going to stomp and the only thing taking them out is going to be one good bomb build, or another organized group.
To say players are going to be farmed by organized groups is going to happen anyway, this mythic or not. It currently happens...

My point was that many of the voices who were calling for a restoration of this set generally do so within the general framework of "raising the floor" and "capping the ceiling."

This set certainly raises the floor with its absurd grab-bag of the game's best and heretofore rarest buffs but it also considerably raises the ceiling.

It's also likely problematic for cases such as Nightblade gankers who now get Major Courage, Major Force, Major Berserk, and a guaranteed Crit out of stealth along with constant Major Heroism for basically unlimited Incaps. Especially in a format like No-CP, that is an UNREAL amount of power.

Good thing they introduced a mythic called Sea-Serpents Coil. Which prevents you from getting ganked and also gives you major berserk and courage

I don't do PVP, and I don't want to argue for Oakensoul being broken because I don't believe it is. But Sea-Serpent's Coil doesn't proc unless you take damage. Does Simmering Frenzy proc Coil? Honestly, I don't know. If it does, then you are 100% right and I'd make the same comment.

divnyi · May 2022

Major Force, Major Berserk

As crit player in PvP, I'm HYPED. Giving up backbar is still a huge deal, but it might just make it worth it.

merpins · May 2022

Also "Perfect." Change Major Courage into Minor courage and then I'd say it's as perfect as it can be with the design choice ZoS insists on taking this item.

Kory · May 2022

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

bbpotts2ub17_ESO wrote: »

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

I don't think that you realize how much better this set is than Malacath or Markyn or any of the other PvP Mythics.

It's also going to be significantly better in organized groups so the problems that many players have with getting farmed by ball groups are only going to get compounded.

I really dont think this mythic is going to be the breaking point for ball groups. Ball groups are going to stomp and the only thing taking them out is going to be one good bomb build, or another organized group.
To say players are going to be farmed by organized groups is going to happen anyway, this mythic or not. It currently happens...

My point was that many of the voices who were calling for a restoration of this set generally do so within the general framework of "raising the floor" and "capping the ceiling."

This set certainly raises the floor with its absurd grab-bag of the game's best and heretofore rarest buffs but it also considerably raises the ceiling.

It's also likely problematic for cases such as Nightblade gankers who now get Major Courage, Major Force, Major Berserk, and a guaranteed Crit out of stealth along with constant Major Heroism for basically unlimited Incaps. Especially in a format like No-CP, that is an UNREAL amount of power.

"get Major Courage, Major Force, Major Berserk, and a guaranteed Crit out of stealth along with constant Major Heroism for basically unlimited Incaps"

and? lol sounds like fun

Mr_Stach · May 2022

Great, there you go NBs there's your buff

Tommy_The_Gun · May 2022

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

This set is now INSANE for PvP.

Yep.

Won't be good for WW, as pretty much aside from Major Courage & Protection - every other buff is overlapping with WW passives, but...

...You can basically have WW-like passives & buffs, but without being a WW. You also don't have (aside from 1 bar) any potentiate flaw & drawback that WW has.

And on top of that you can still use any ability you want.

For Ganking & Bombing this set will be insane. No other words to put it. For ganking it will be so busted that we may even see a Bow-gank builds making a comeback.

I am serious. Every one was so laser - focused on a WW...
*oh noes ! Doggos will be playable again ! Nerf, Nerf ! *
...But now it seems players forgot that there are other specs in PvP & other monsters have been created...

the1andonlyskwex · May 2022

If this goes live as-is, Oakensoul is going to be mandatory for the solo BG queues.

Tannus15 · May 2022

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

This set is now INSANE for PvP.

Yep.

Won't be good for WW, as pretty much aside from Major Courage & Protection - every other buff is overlapping with WW passives, but...

...You can basically have WW-like passives & buffs, but without being a WW. You also don't have (aside from 1 bar) any potentiate flaw & drawback that WW has.

And on top of that you can still use any ability you want.

I hadn't really thought about this and it's actually a strong point in the rings favour from a PvE WW perspective. you can build your non WW setup based around the same buffs you'll have as WW and not totally suck while you're waiting for enough ULT to do your thing

from a PvP perspective I'm not sure that losing a defensive bar setup to compliment your offensive bar setup is worth it. sure you'll have strong burst damage, but if it doesn't work I think you're pretty much dead. no resto backbar or shield back bar for heals and survivability. major protection on it's own isn't going to be enough...