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Crushing weapon still not viable.
MentalxHammer
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Major breach was added to crushing weapon a few patches ago in an attempt to make it viable, however due to the clunkiness of the skill it still see’s next to no usage in the game. I have put it on and taken it off my bar at least a dozen times trying to theorycraft with it, which is quite frustrating. Because it only procs off of light attacks and has such a short buff time (2 sec) it is too clunky to use and is often a waste of a GCD when you are CC’d after the cast.
There’s no reason this skill shouldn’t have the same quality of life that crystal weapon does. Please consider making crushing weapon proc off of light and heavy attacks, and extend the buff duration to 3-4 seconds. This is an awesome skill that see’s zero usage in ESO and it’s a shame this is the case.
Edited by MentalxHammer on April 24, 2022 5:20AM There’s no reason this skill shouldn’t have the same quality of life that crystal weapon does. Please consider making crushing weapon proc off of light and heavy attacks, and extend the buff duration to 3-4 seconds. This is an awesome skill that see’s zero usage in ESO and it’s a shame this is the case.
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Finedaible✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The many abundant sources of Major Breach - especially Razor Caltrops - has left many skills and sets obsolete in my opinion. Which is one of the reasons why I think this skill and some class skills such as Mark target need something extra to set themselves apart from things like Razor Caltrops and Weakness to Elements and its morphs. Mark target is also laughably weak compared to the new Deep Fissure which provides both Major and Minor Breach in an AoE... while Mark Target remains a single-target application. Like, they need to stop blindly trusting this 'power balance calculator' they came up with because it will never be a perfect metric of balance they think it will be. Major Breach is so stupidly abundant right now that minor breach is often more valued.1 -
Foxtrot39✭✭✭✭Major breach is so freaking widespread adding it to crushign weapon was more of a nerf
Make it instead give a big flat pen bonus or use a unqiue armor reducing buff so its not nullfied by the myriade of other major breach sources
Change it so it remain active until the next LAEdited by Foxtrot39 on April 24, 2022 9:24PM0 -
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✭Just copy past veiled strike but change the appearance of the attack to be a conjured sword
Done sorc has a good spammable nowI am @fluffypallascat pc eu if someone wants to play together
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✭francesinhalover wrote: »Just copy past veiled strike but change the appearance of the attack to be a conjured sword
Done sorc has a good spammable now
I’m referring to crushing weapon from the psijic order skill line, I’m saying it should have the same QOL that crystal weapon, a similarly function skill has; a 4 sec uptime and procs off of light and heavy attacks. Right now it only procs off of light attacks which makes it functionally restrictive and not fun to use.0 -
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Firstly, post is about Psijic Order, not Stam Sorc.francesinhalover wrote: »Just copy past veiled strike but change the appearance of the attack to be a conjured sword
Done sorc has a good spammable now
Second. Crystal Weapon IS a good spammable and the larger issues of it just got fixed with the buff they made now that you can preload it twice countering the annoying loss of not hitting people with it since light/heavy's don't register as frequently. It does less damage than every other spammables. Veiled Strike gets 5% as it levels with Sundered. Dizzy Swing is burstier and stuns. Crushing Weapon does similar damage for less cost, but gives Major Breach which we lack, although we can use Razor Caltrops.- Is it less relaible than Veiled Strike that is instant cast, fire and forget? Yeah.
- Is it annoying to use for some of the playerbase because it requires light/heavy attacks, mainly new or high ping players? Yeah.
- Does it enable Stam Sorc to have delayed burst in a 2 for 1 ability as a spammable + delayed burst. Hell yes.
This would be a large nerf to a stam sorcs kit and a detriment to our bar space that is already cluttered with not very strong heals forcing us to rely on mobility for survival.. which in all fairness is fine as it fits the class theme, I'm just saying this mainly works because we have a 2 for 1 abilitiy. Every class has something like that, eg. Templars Rune Focus is their armor skill and their sustain skill.
I was once against the design of Crystal Weapon, upset about it being copy/pasted, but after using it for a few years now I can safely say it's made the class kit a LOT stronger than it once was. The class Crystal Weapon + Dizzy or Whirling Blades combo is a staple to us now. You can alternate how you use Crystal Weapon as a spammable or delayed burst.
Off topic. I'd like to see some of our class heals improved by allowing them to scale with stats.
The Sorc kit doesn't have a single passive that benefits healing or defense. Dark Deal and Crit Surge are both flat values that were once much stronger due to the meta of the game. As damage and health has rised, flat value heals remain the same.
Rally, Vigor, Clanfear, and Flappy Bird continue to get stronger to match the increased health we have while Surge and Dark Deal proportionally heal less of our health bar. Surge also procs less relaibly since we have no Crit Chance built into Medium Armor anymore and Set Values are less. Around Morrowind, I was able to have 40%+ crit chance in 5 heavy armor with 100% major expedition uptime and 8s snare removal. Our health back then was I think closer to 20-25k on average back then with 1000s less damage so Surge was a much more viable option in comparison to Rally.Edited by MashmalloMan on April 25, 2022 5:00AM5 -
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The 4 seconds and heavy attack proccing for Sorc's has made our variant much more viable, as someone who hated that they copy/pasted it and wanted the unique differences between them to be as aparent as possible.. I've changed my tune with this patches buff.
Same:- Same animation.
- Same rough proc condition via light attacks.
- Both melee or ranged depending on weapon.
- Both Physical Damage.
Crystal Weapon Differences.- Can preload 2 instead of 1.
- Does not return resources if casted early, but reduces the cost of your next skill use by 10%.
- Lasts 4 seconds instead of 2.
- Can hit on heavy attacks, instead of just light attacks.
- Unamed 1k pen debuff vs named 6k pen debuff.
- A few percent more upfront damage vs less cost and conditional orb damage.
- Can heal 5% of our health vs can use bubble shield on cooldwon.
So... While I think Crystal Weapon deserves more bonuses as it's a Class spammable and it rightfully does as shown above. Sharing something like heavy attacks and a 4s window instead of 2s would still give Crystal Weapon 5 differences over Crushing Weapon, seperating them as unique from 1 another while improving the quality of life of what is largeley considered the most clunky spammable in the game.
I think you're entirely right, there is no reason this shouldn't be adjusted now that you can't proc both skills together.Edited by MashmalloMan on April 25, 2022 5:13AM3 -
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✭Wouldn't it be abused by NBs if the duration will be buffed? I mean I will def try to cloak -> crushing -> snipe -> LA+shards -> LA+bombard for ultra heavy burst.0 -
Foxtrot39✭✭✭✭Well burst is the only thing they got, still having other classes have no issue outbursting them without being mandatory glass cannon
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