All games should just emulate the original Everquest, where we all just stand around in a tunnel shouting out what we are looking to trade and for what. Or version 2, where you went to a special plane and set your character afk for the night selling your wares among the rows of other afk players. It was actually pretty cool browsing everyone's stuff, you got to know who farmed what and where you had a good chance of finding what you needed.

As for auction houses, first off, who wants to bid on items ever? If I am looking for something, I need it right now, not a week from now when the auction for it ends. Then there are the global vendors where everyone lists their stuff, and have yet to see one of those work properly, there are always an army of bots competing with each other to snap up every under priced item and relisting them above market value.

Then there is BDO, at least the last time I checked, which is a global system, but the game sets the price on every item and your listing just goes in a queue to be sold when your turn comes up. No undercutting, no cash right now, just list and wait. Oh, and so their system doesn't get abused, you also can't trade directly with anyone, you have to use the vendor. So playing with friends and something drops you or they need, sorry charlie, you can't even give it to them, nor they you.

The system here is actually a lot like Everquest v2, except instead of everyone having their own vendor, you share it with ~500 other players.

Drammanoth wrote: »

Here we go again...

I've been waiting to dust this off!
Huzzah!

Gaeliannas wrote: »

All games should just emulate the original Everquest, where we all just stand around in a tunnel shouting out what we are looking to trade and for what. Or version 2, where you went to a special plane and set your character afk for the night selling your wares among the rows of other afk players. It was actually pretty cool browsing everyone's stuff, you got to know who farmed what and where you had a good chance of finding what you needed.

This one! This one! Oh, the fun we will have... I don't even dare to imagine!

Yes, if it brings prices down. 30+k for a single Zircon Grain? Rip off.

No, I actually enjoy having to visit places I would normally leave in the dust. And that's just one of the reasons.

No.

However a system offering "price brackets suggestions" in-game in a similar way TTC offers wuld be appreciated tho.
A minimal gold fee per request to limit request spam & act as a gold sink would be ok too.

It would be very useful for casual buyers.

I don't want an auction house.

I want a *mall*.

Where the following are true:

All players may sell things in their shop, with no limits, no expiry and no requirement to be in a guild - if an item is in the mall, it stays there until voluntarily withdrawn by the owner, or bought. Owner may adjust the price without withdrawing the item, and when setting or adjusting the price, is automatically presented with a list of the five lowest prices of that item currently in the mall, for comparison.

The entire mall is searchable in-game, through one interface, players do not need to physically travel in the game world.

Items may be sorted by name and price (lowest first)

It is possible to buy "some but not all" of a stack, by right-clicking and entering the desired number in a box, which defaults to "buy 1" if no input is received.

Sellers may set per-day limits on what an given buyer (player) may buy

***SUPER IMPORTANT*** Reselling is disallowed, when you buy any item from the store it becomes automatically Bound.

Bound and non-Bound versions of the same item can stack into a single slot, but the game keeps track of how many are bound. Example: "Chromium Plating: 20 (10 Bound)".

It would not be an Auction House, because Auction means a timed sale with bids. This is a Mall - buy it or don't buy it, take it or leave it.

Prices are already too high for entry level players. A central auction house will just make capitalism more prevalent and drive prices higher.

As a seller, I don't have a problem with it meeting my needs. As a buyer, it is terrible. It is also one reason I'm just accumulating gold. I've mostly given up trying to buy from traders, and a lot of that is due to the performance of the item search being so bad I just stop. That when I do need a specific item, that TTC is necessary, and also leads to wasted time when the item is not still on the trader, just adds to the frustration with the system. So again, a desire to buy items just becomes a decision to not to bother.

It is possible to keep the guild traders and provide a centralized marketplace, as EQ did with their bazaar. Or, preferably a complete revamp of the system would be nice. I don't expect it to happen until their subscription/sales numbers start dropping, and they have to add more QoL changes to try and keep people.

Alvalanna wrote: »

jle30303 wrote: »

I don't want an auction house.

I want a *mall*.

***SUPER IMPORTANT*** Reselling is disallowed, when you buy any item from the store it becomes automatically Bound.

I know you think banning reselling would stop people from buying low priced items and reselling them for higher prices. However, what happens if I want to buy something for a friend? Or if I accidentally buy something I don't want? Or if someone is selling a stack of something (like a motif) and I only need one? Maybe the price is good but I don't need two of the same motif. I would either want to resell it or put it in the guild bank for another guild member to use.

A couple of points on this:

1) it's perfectly possible to introduce a new database attribute to gift items that are not bind on pickup;

2) if you're introducing a no reselling rule, that you've bought an item you didn't need as part of another becomes your problem -- it's not a compelling reason not to ban resales, but might well change seller behaviour by encouraging people to split out items;

3) if you buy something you don't want, perhaps a five minute cooling period, although given that ESO doesn't even offer undo for crafting something incorrectly, again, it's hard to see why this is some sort of showstopping objection rather than a "be more careful next time" point.

I actually don't mind having the guild traders scattered all over Tamriel and having to be a member of a guild in order to sell stuff I don't need.

I dislike on console not having Tamriel Trade Center (and the other trading AddOns that exist on PC megaserver)

Please ZOS, build something like TTC into the base game.

What is the justification for console megaservers having the Middle Ages equivalent of selling/shopping while those on PC megaservers have an online system to look up relatively current item listings and locations? Night and day difference between console ESO trading and PC ESO trading.

Nope.

1) Dead horse... they already said "No".
2) Even if they said "Yes"... my guess is that megaserver design limitations from a decade ago would make the implementation not what people want, and less than what other games do. Megaserver has to be designed for this sort of thing, and I bet that this one is not.
3) I don't expect them to change their mind... see above.

tmbrinks wrote: »

As much as it's beating a dead horse... I'm wary that they'll change "because it's what players have wanted"

Which is why I will forever ADAMANTLY, REPEATEDLY, and LOUDLY state my opinion on things like this so that ZoS knows there is opposition to this.

So we don't have the AwA debacle again, where ZoS thinks that just because people don't repeatedly reply to the 18 billion threads on something in opposition means that they are "for" the change.

No. No global auction house. Full Stop.

Again to point out that the most common reaction on both steam and reddit, to the extent there were even complaints at all, to complaints about AWA was to ask why anyone would play with more than one character. It's quite important to remember that this forum is not a representative sample of ESO's player base.