I'd be happy if they quests were repeatable at least.

Should it be? No. Could it be improved? Yes.

No more loot, just place more "elite" mob and give more XP pls.. for killing mobs.

I think after seeing GW2's loot-for-everyone system instead of the usual need or greed, I appreciate the need or greed more. Just have everyone's loot drop into a pot, and let us share it.

The thing is I dont like the need/greed roll thing either, but I do think a need/greed roll should b implemented for the treasure chests to keep the greedy dude from getting them all, and holding up the rest of the group, unless of course every 1 leaves the dungeon cause they dont care about the loot in treasure chests, then I think they should not b rolled on, and go to the person that picks the lock.

But currently it is already hard to get a group for lower lev dungeons, whether u r a tank or healer, or dps, and thats prob got something to do with the lack of being able to level in them, which i would like there to b no leving in them if.... say..... there were set gear drops u could obtain in those dungeons, then by the time u got the whole set it would still b good for u cuase u didnt out lev the set while playing.

currently there is no real reason to run the dungeon more then once, which really sux cause this is an mmo, and should b about getting together for group content.

I am talking about dungeons u know the 1st that u have to group for like spinndleclutch not the open public 1s, i think they r fine, but the LFG dungeons need more viability to give people the reason to do them.

Its crap that the game has been out for 3 weeks, and already no matter what role u r u have a hard time getting a group for low lev dungeons, i dont think that is a population issue, but i do think it is a viability issue, and u can say most peopl r high lev but thats not true either all u have to do to prove that is look in a guild store roster to find out that there r plenty of low levs.

Let me clarify my response. Public dungeons need to die in a fire. Instanced group dungeons need great loot. Or they need to nerf the amount of blues and purples that drop in the world. Its ridiculous how many there are. It feels like a dungeon crawler that has massive amounts of loot.

Dungeons need to be meaningful. Currently, they are not. You can skip them all together while leveling and not miss a thing besides a skill point. Greens and blues are very similar in power, so there is very little significance to having them. Just keep leveling and equip the green drops as you can use them.


Thats also why nobody buys epics from the auction houses unless they are being basically given away.

YES. As it stands there is little to no incentive to do a group dungeon more than once. While this concept works fine for a single player game it makes no sense in a multiplayer game.

Where is the incentive or even requirement to form groups and build communities? Does it start at the "end game"? If so, that's bad design imho.

I voted no tho I was on the fence, I wish you could get the quest again so you can not feel like some blind spare wheel if you want to run it again for guildies who need a hand.

I voted yes only because it was fine the way it was until today's nerf.

Audigy wrote: »

Dungeons should tell the story further, they should not however be the income for the best loot or xp.

WOW made that mistake, people only do dungeons all day and nothing else.

In my opinion a dungeon could teach you a new craft recipe or you learn about a new motfit or you get a skill point / new ability - but items should not be the reason why dungeons exist.

You are so right ... look at all the mistakes WoW made ... that's why they failed so quickly and haven't dominated the market for years and years ...... oh wait. Get frakkin real man! I don't like WoW anymore but I played it back in the day and saying dungeons was a bad thing for that game is remarkably stupid.

Heck yes they should, it's all about the rewards and LOOT! Like someone else asked...
What's the point?

Volkoth wrote: »

Badh0rse wrote: »

Audigy wrote: »

Dungeons should tell the story further, they should not however be the income for the best loot or xp.

WOW made that mistake, people only do dungeons all day and nothing else.

In my opinion a dungeon could teach you a new craft recipe or you learn about a new motfit or you get a skill point / new ability - but items should not be the reason why dungeons exist.

You are so right ... look at all the mistakes WoW made ... that's why they failed so quickly and haven't dominated the market for years and years ...... oh wait. Get frakkin real man! I don't like WoW anymore but I played it back in the day and saying dungeons was a bad thing for that game is remarkably stupid.

Playing an MMO is about what is fun for YOU. If you want to craft all day, thats awesome, for YOU. You should be able to gather and craft how you want and when you want. I find running dungeons and getting loot fun, amazingly fun in fact. Now I've made this statement before and gotten the statement back "well go play wow", No, I say to you this, If you want story go play SWTOR, let me have my loot the way it was lol. I'm not saying that to be ugly, but to make a point. everyone wants something out of playing an MMO and we as customers should get, overall, what we want without sacrificing what others want. The loot system was fine as it was before this patch, and the dungeon loot in instances could be better. If you don't want to give us things better than crafted gear, then give us several white pieces to deconstruct and get mats from. Tie it all together.

Hmmmmmm Well, you sir have stumped me. I have absolutely no idea why you have quoted me here. Did I miss something?

edit: For the record I would like to state that every players favorite form of leveling should be viable unless it specifically ruins the game for a large percentage of the population. Crafters, Dungeoniers, Questers, PvP, Grinders, etc . UNITE! Fight for "leveling equality"!