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Oakensoul massively overshadows Shapeshifter's Chain
Feljax
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Surely Shapeshifter's Chain should get some kind of buff to make it at least a possible choice once update 34 lands? Right now, there is just no way a werewolf would even consider Shapeshifter's Chain at all given how massively overpowering Oakensoul is in comparison.
More ultimate reduction and increased stats perhaps?
More ultimate reduction and increased stats perhaps?
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Halcyon_Kismet✭✭✭I would argue that just about anything in comparison to Shapeshifter will seem overpowered.
To buff up Shapeshifter, I would suggest unlimited Werewolf transformation and Double duration for Vampire Scion and Bone Goliath.
I would also consider adding significantly more stats or maybe do something fun like add extra "buddies" when you transform. (I was thinking extra attack wolves, but it wouldn't really make sense for the other classes that get benefit from the ring.) I'm a big believer that as long as an item is interesting, it doesn't always have to be a contender for best in slot. In its current form, shapeshifter misses the mark on just about everything.6 -
Feljax✭✭✭✭Halcyon_Kismet wrote: »To buff up Shapeshifter, I would suggest unlimited Werewolf transformation and Double duration for Vampire Scion and Bone Goliath.
I love this idea along with some increased stats.0 -
Finedaible✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Gotta sell that chapter somehow, lol. There's not much else to look forward to this chapter. They already nerfing Harpooner's Wading Kilt in the first patch.3 -
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✭✭✭Oakensoul is missing Offensive Penetration stat. Needs a buff. /s
Edited by Kaelthorn_Nightbloom on April 19, 2022 6:10PMPC NA0 -
Tommy_The_Gun✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Oakensoul even beats Gaze of Sithis... and Gaze as far as I am aware is the most stat dense set in the entire game lol.
Gaze of Sithis removes your block mitigation, while Oakensoul removes your 2nd skill bar. I think that it maybe the reason why it is so over the top. Maybe ZOS somehow calculated that losing one bar is significantly greater kiss-curse than losing block mitigation ? Idk. I am just guessing.
Oakensoul most likely will get nerfed a bit on PTS, but it may still end up being more stat-dense set than Gaze of Sithis.
On one hand I don't think that sets like this are health for the game... but part of me kinda wants to have a stat-buffing set on the same power level as Dark Convergence or Plaguebreak. Players were asking for adjustments to those sets to put them in line with other sets... but ZOS did nothing about it. So apparently, if Proc sets can be OP, then why we can not have OP stat buffing sets ?1 -
Feljax✭✭✭✭My concern here isn't so much about meta and whatnot. I run Shapeshifter's Chain for fun while soloing. I know it's sub-par stat-wise but I like trying to get my ultimate as low as possible to get into wolf form quickly. But looking at Oakensoul, there just isn't any reason at all to pick anything else, ever. Lol!
Rather than calling for nerfs, I was really hoping that the Chain could get a buff. At least make it be somewhat desirable. With Oakensoul as competition, the chasm between the two is so incredibly vast, there just isn't any reason to ever consider Shapeshifter's Chain for any purpose, fun, meta, or otherwise.
For instance, if Shapeshifter's Chain made WW form become much cheaper (maybe even cost 0 ult), I'd run that for sure. I hate having to fight outside WW form for a while just to get enough ult to transform. Not saying this is the solution but something, anything that makes it at least mildly desirable in the face of Oakensoul would be a start.0 -
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✭My concern here isn't so much about meta and whatnot. I run Shapeshifter's Chain for fun while soloing. I know it's sub-par stat-wise but I like trying to get my ultimate as low as possible to get into wolf form quickly. But looking at Oakensoul, there just isn't any reason at all to pick anything else, ever. Lol!
Rather than calling for nerfs, I was really hoping that the Chain could get a buff. At least make it be somewhat desirable. With Oakensoul as competition, the chasm between the two is so incredibly vast, there just isn't any reason to ever consider Shapeshifter's Chain for any purpose, fun, meta, or otherwise.
For instance, if Shapeshifter's Chain made WW form become much cheaper (maybe even cost 0 ult), I'd run that for sure. I hate having to fight outside WW form for a while just to get enough ult to transform. Not saying this is the solution but something, anything that makes it at least mildly desirable in the face of Oakensoul would be a start.
Shapeshifters chains does need a buff but pale soul does literally lock you out of your actual class when specced as WW.Wuuffyy,
WW/berserker playstyle advocate (I play ALL classes proficiently in PvP outside of WW as well)
ESO player since 2014 (Xbox and PC for PTS)
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Feljax✭✭✭✭Wolf_Watching wrote: »Shapeshifters chains does need a buff but pale soul does literally lock you out of your actual class when specced as WW.
It is a drawback for sure but to anyone who loves playing and staying in WW form as long as possible, this is pretty much irrelevant.Edited by Feljax on April 20, 2022 1:33PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Halcyon_Kismet wrote: »I would argue that just about anything in comparison to Shapeshifter will seem overpowered.
To buff up Shapeshifter, I would suggest unlimited Werewolf transformation and Double duration for Vampire Scion and Bone Goliath.
I would also consider adding significantly more stats or maybe do something fun like add extra "buddies" when you transform. (I was thinking extra attack wolves, but it wouldn't really make sense for the other classes that get benefit from the ring.) I'm a big believer that as long as an item is interesting, it doesn't always have to be a contender for best in slot. In its current form, shapeshifter misses the mark on just about everything.
Exactly this^^^^^
Besides stat buffs and double durations, here’s some fun suggestions:
• Werewolf can jump 50% higher
• Bone Goliath killing an enemy causes that enemy’s body to raise as an undead thrall which fights for you for 20 seconds.
• Blood Scion can use their ultimate button to fly short distances. This works by clicking the Ult button to create an AoE telegraph (like you would for any other AoE ability), and then when you cast it you begin an animation to fly to that location.
I can easily see this mythic being an awesome addition to the game. Currently it’s almost pointless though unfortunately.Edited by Vaoh on April 20, 2022 6:15PM1 -
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✭✭✭Nah, fam. Gotta sell this expansion somehow then nerf this mythic into obscurity next patch.0
