What's next after High Isle?

BlossomDead · April 2022

Other (specify)

Crown Store.

WildRaptorX · April 2022

Southern Hammerfell

Definitely Hammerfell. We will get an ES 6 Hammerfell trailer in 2023. They will promote the Hammerfell chapter alongside the main series game

kaushad · April 2022

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WraithCaller88 wrote: »

TBH, I think an exploration of different factions within House Telvanni would be both interesting and refreshing

I disagree. We had House Telvanni in TESIII. Then we had a series of quests with Master Neloth on Solstheim of all places in Dragonborn. Then we didn’t really see much of any Great House in ESO’s base, but we did in the Morrowind chapter, with Sun-In-Shadow’s quests and Azura’s Coast.

I’d much rather see the remaining two Great Houses developed, especially House Indoril, because it was reformed in the 4th Era, which means that the House it was as briefly described in PGE1 and TESIII isn’t going to feature in future TES games. A DLC set to the east of Bal Foyen and Deshaan could be their last chance in the franchise.

Khold90 · April 2022

Whiterun

I would like to see Whiterun mostly because of its proximity to the rift and the hope the Jarl system will be introduced.

That way the thanes that rule the rift would be replaced by a Jarl whose son gets bitten by vampires in the sewers and thus begins the existence of the dawnguard.

Otherwise, as many have said, it will be a Redguard or Bosmer themed expansion and Hammerfell would be popular.

Jaimeh · April 2022

I don't know, but we do have some loose ends with Meridia, as well as the whole thing with Lyranth at the end of the Deadlands main story. I do hope we explore these at some point down the line.

honglatongla · April 2022

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Card game updates and performance fixes, no new content otherwise. prayge

Aztrias · April 2022

Telvanni Pensinsula (Eastern Morrowind)

My wishlist:

1. Eastern Morrowind
2. Central Black Marsh (Argonians deserve a full expansion story)

Though I wouldn't be surprised if the nex chapter after the high isle saga will focus on either Redguards or Wood Elves

xXSilverDragonXx · April 2022

Hammerfell would make sense. Bosmers have three zones all about them. Frankly, another few years without them would be fine. THREE tedious zone in AD for that faction quest line. After that returning to dark elves might be nice. Then whiterun. That would be what I would like to see. All set with not seeing black marsh for a long time.

MaisonNaevius · April 2022

Southern Hammerfell

2021 is a new extension loop for me. And Blackwood is a lot like Imperial City. I mean, we're in Nibenese territory, the Elder Council is involved, and there's a Daedric invasion.

For 2022, I had a doubt. Since after Imperial City, we got Orsinium. But we no longer had any equivalent available about DC. So I thought we would take this step for Thieves Guild and therefore Southern Hammerfell.
Finally, we will indeed have a DC territory. And like Orsinium, it directly/indirectly involves factions story (this is not the major subject but it was about reviewing the membership of orsimers in DC).

2022 could be the year of Southern Elsweyr. Just as it could be a year in Southern Elsweyr AND Colovian Estates. Or, Colovian Estates will be released in 2023.

In this idea, I think of Telvanni Peninsula in 2024, Falinesti in 2025, Tenmar in 2026.

If we have two regions from 2023, then we would have a bigger map. Of course, it won't be all of Southern Hammerfell. Colovia on the other hand should be complete. Perhaps a war between Colovia and Southern Hammerfell? Telvanni Peninsula would also be an expansive map.

Syldras · April 2022

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kaushad wrote: »

We had House Telvanni in TESIII. Then we had a series of quests with Master Neloth on Solstheim of all places in Dragonborn. Then we didn’t really see much of any Great House in ESO’s base, but we did in the Morrowind chapter, with Sun-In-Shadow’s quests and Azura’s Coast.

We also had Hlaalu and Redoran in TES3. Dragonborn had Raven Rock as a Redoran settlement much bigger than Master Neloth's private tower Tel Mythrin. The ESO Morrowind chapter had Redoran during that whole quest around Veya and her father.

kaushad wrote: »

I’d much rather see the remaining two Great Houses developed, especially House Indoril, because it was reformed in the 4th Era, which means that the House it was as briefly described in PGE1 and TESIII isn’t going to feature in future TES games. A DLC set to the east of Bal Foyen and Deshaan could be their last chance in the franchise.

You know the whole thing is the Telvanni Peninsula, do you (I know many people think it's just that island in the North - that's Telvannis -, obviously ignoring that it's called peninsula not isle)?
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Telvanni_Peninsula
Which doesn't mean that there aren't any other Dunmer Houses present, though. Necrom is also part of the Telvanni Peninsula, but being a traditional burial and mourning site, it for sure is connected to the Tribunal Temple and therefore House Indoril. So you've got good chances for Indoril content there. Though there will, of course, also be Telvanni content in that area.

WraithCaller88 wrote: »

TBH, I think an exploration of different factions within House Telvanni would be both interesting and refreshing - on par with the kind of clan drama we got in Orsinium. I could easily see a faction of forward-thinking, research-focused characters like Revus Demnevanni or Master Aryon from TES 3 trying to drag the House into the future, clashing with the hardline elders like Master Gothren along the way.

It sounds interesting as a concept, but the Telvanni are quite individualistic. There's not much interest in the House as a whole, it's more like a group of introvert individualists, everyone minds their own business most of the time, and sometimes there are conflicts when interests clash... And that hasn't changed much even in the late 3rd era. Also I'm not sure if Revus is really "forward-thinking" as you call it. Yes, he despises slavery, probably because he knows very well how it feels being of inferior rank, but I have the impression that, in the end, he also only wants to get his own research done and be left alone. He's no reformer let alone a revolutionary. I don't think there's any Telvanni who wants to change the House's nature as a whole.

Oh, and I really hope that upcoming Telvanni content won't be about slavery alone. There's much more about Great House Telvanni, even if many people don't have any more associations than "They keep slaves, they're bad!"

FLuFFyxMuFFiN · April 2022

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Y'all, we haven't even gotten to High Isle yet...

But also we enjoy the speculation, so please continue.

I think that the point of this thread is for the people to express that they are not much excited for the new chapter, but they are still looking forward to explore other "empty gaps" on the ESO map in the future - places that may be way more interesting. I agree - we have not played High Isle yet, so it is hard impossible to judge if it is good or bad. I can only guess tbh. If somehow ZOS will make Breton lore & knights in shiny armours interesting - then, they will have my congratulations. But for now... lets just say that it looks pretty um... "meh" & generic I guess. This is at least my personal opinion. I am waiting for the PTS to try it out though.

To be fair I am pretty sure a thread like this has popped up for every expansion

Lady_Galadhiel · April 2022

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Speculations,speculations...
Whatever includes Bosmer would be an instant buy from my side.
This years chapter I bought it for the elk and the card game, am little interested in Bretons nor I was in Imperials last year. I would just like to buy a chapter for its content and not for the feature what comes with it.

SeaGtGruff · April 2022

Southern Hammerfell

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Y'all, we haven't even gotten to High Isle yet...

But also we enjoy the speculation, so please continue.

I think that the point of this thread is for the people to express that they are not much excited for the new chapter, but they are still looking forward to explore other "empty gaps" on the ESO map in the future - places that may be way more interesting. I agree - we have not played High Isle yet, so it is hard impossible to judge if it is good or bad. I can only guess tbh. If somehow ZOS will make Breton lore & knights in shiny armours interesting - then, they will have my congratulations. But for now... lets just say that it looks pretty um... "meh" & generic I guess. This is at least my personal opinion. I am waiting for the PTS to try it out though.

To be fair I am pretty sure a thread like this has popped up for every expansion

Yes, they did. And they all had nothing to do with whether people were interested in the upcoming High Isle chapter, or for that matter any previous chapter. A lot of people in the community are very interested in speculating about what's in development.

To be clear, my vote is not a prediction, but a desire.

FLuFFyxMuFFiN · April 2022

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Y'all, we haven't even gotten to High Isle yet...

But also we enjoy the speculation, so please continue.

I think that the point of this thread is for the people to express that they are not much excited for the new chapter, but they are still looking forward to explore other "empty gaps" on the ESO map in the future - places that may be way more interesting. I agree - we have not played High Isle yet, so it is hard impossible to judge if it is good or bad. I can only guess tbh. If somehow ZOS will make Breton lore & knights in shiny armours interesting - then, they will have my congratulations. But for now... lets just say that it looks pretty um... "meh" & generic I guess. This is at least my personal opinion. I am waiting for the PTS to try it out though.

To be fair I am pretty sure a thread like this has popped up for every expansion

Yes, they did. And they all had nothing to do with whether people were interested in the upcoming High Isle chapter, or for that matter any previous chapter. A lot of people in the community are very interested in speculating about what's in development.

To be clear, my vote is not a prediction, but a desire.

Yeah I was making that statement as a sort of counter argument to the person saying that this thread was for people to express they are not excited for this expansion.

SeaGtGruff · April 2022

Southern Hammerfell

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Y'all, we haven't even gotten to High Isle yet...

But also we enjoy the speculation, so please continue.

I think that the point of this thread is for the people to express that they are not much excited for the new chapter, but they are still looking forward to explore other "empty gaps" on the ESO map in the future - places that may be way more interesting. I agree - we have not played High Isle yet, so it is hard impossible to judge if it is good or bad. I can only guess tbh. If somehow ZOS will make Breton lore & knights in shiny armours interesting - then, they will have my congratulations. But for now... lets just say that it looks pretty um... "meh" & generic I guess. This is at least my personal opinion. I am waiting for the PTS to try it out though.

To be fair I am pretty sure a thread like this has popped up for every expansion

Yes, they did. And they all had nothing to do with whether people were interested in the upcoming High Isle chapter, or for that matter any previous chapter. A lot of people in the community are very interested in speculating about what's in development.

To be clear, my vote is not a prediction, but a desire.

Yeah I was making that statement as a sort of counter argument to the person saying that this thread was for people to express they are not excited for this expansion.

Yep, and I was agreeing with you.

[Edit: But it can be difficult to tell in these cases, since the comment we were both commenting on was hidden from view inside that "show previous quotes" thingy.]

SantieClaws · April 2022

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Well they mentioned druids in the moving picture show yes.

So this one thinks druid land might be the extra little zone later this year.

So then that might logically lead to more forests - or something totally different.

This one hopes though for more sand. So much more personally comfortable for a travelling khajiit ...

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

zaria · April 2022

JoDiMageio wrote: »

The only races that haven't had an associated significant expansion yet are the Wood Elves and the Redguards. It would make sense that either of them would get some love. And because most (if not all) of Valenwood has been covered, and I don't think that they would explore certain magical mysteries like Falinesti, I'm leaning toward unexplored Hammerfell territory.

I don't think they will look at other continents / territories nor other races outside of Tamriel. Nor would they explore certain mysteries that give the game its magic (I'm looking at you, Dwarves).

Well Bosmer is a bit hard unless they live other places, plenty of Khajiit in Al'kir as an example.
Redguards are much easier as you say, just go south. Yes its an upcoming TES chapter But you could use that Morrowind style but in reverse.
Or more Dunmer stuff in new areas or more of Skyrim.

Vevvev · April 2022

I don't know.

kaushad · April 2022

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Syldras wrote: »

We also had Hlaalu and Redoran in TES3. Dragonborn had Raven Rock as a Redoran settlement much bigger than Master Neloth's private tower Tel Mythrin. The ESO Morrowind chapter had Redoran during that whole quest around Veya and her father.

I don't much care about Houses Redoran and Hlaalu for same reason as Telvanni: been there, done that. Albeit a bit less in House Hlaalu's case.

Syldras wrote: »

You know the whole thing is the Telvanni Peninsula, do you (I know many people think it's just that island in the North - that's Telvannis -, obviously ignoring that it's called peninsula not isle)?
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Telvanni_Peninsula

I didn't know that. I hadn't read Lawrence Schick's interview or The Second Akaviri Invasion. My understanding was that House Telvanni lived "amid the rocky hills and islands of the extreme northeast" as described in PGE1. That's disappointing.

Syldras wrote: »

Which doesn't mean that there aren't any other Dunmer Houses present, though. Necrom is also part of the Telvanni Peninsula, but being a traditional burial and mourning site, it for sure is connected to the Tribunal Temple and therefore House Indoril. So you've got good chances for Indoril content there. Though there will, of course, also be Telvanni content in that area.

The Temple as a proxy wouldn't do them justice. That would be like making House Telvanni (or Dres) all about slavery.

emilyhyoyeon · April 2022

Southern Hammerfell

I'd like to see more redguard stuff, or bosmer stuff

Syldras · April 2022

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kaushad wrote: »

The Temple as a proxy wouldn't do them justice. That would be like making House Telvanni (or Dres) all about slavery.

From what I know, Great House Indoril is severely connected to the temple. They're traditionalists, tend do be extremely pious, orthodox even, and many become priests or work for the temple in a way. That doesn't mean that there aren't any exceptions, but it's the general direction: Redoran are the warrior caste, Telvanni mages and scholars, Hlaalu traders, Dres farmers (they don't keep slaves for no reason) and Indoril priests or temple servants. That's the way Dunmer society works - since centuries.

Spoiler in case you haven't finished Deadlands (or visited the town of Wretched Spire) yet:

I'm not sure if it's ever clarified somewhere, but it's quite obvious if you know the lore: If you arrive in Wretched Spire, you see the ruins of the old Mournhold Tribunal Temple that was ripped from Tamriel and transported to Dagon's realm when he attacked Mournhold in the 1st era - about 6 centuries before ESO takes place - , including the people who lived there. And who's in charge there? Former priest Faven Indoril (and later his son Tarvyn Indoril).

That said, of course they can also tell different, more diverse stories about the Indoril even if it's in/around Necrom. And there might also be other settlements on Telvanni Peninsula that belong to the Indoril or Houses other then Telvanni.

Hapexamendios · April 2022

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Way too early to even worry about it.

WraithCaller88 · April 2022

Telvanni Pensinsula (Eastern Morrowind)

kaushad wrote: »

I’d much rather see the remaining two Great Houses developed, especially House Indoril, because it was reformed in the 4th Era, which means that the House it was as briefly described in PGE1 and TESIII isn’t going to feature in future TES games. A DLC set to the east of Bal Foyen and Deshaan could be their last chance in the franchise.

There's no reason they can't get some attention - we haven't yet been to major cities like Blacklight, Necrom, or Tear. But the simple fact is most of Morrowind's yet-unexplored area is Telvanni territory... That, and Telvanni are something of a fan favorite from TES3.

Syldras wrote: »

Oh, and I really hope that upcoming Telvanni content won't be about slavery alone. There's much more about Great House Telvanni, even if many people don't have any more associations than "They keep slaves, they're bad!"

Yes please can we get away from that tired trope?

I mean, I accept that when they eventually DO give us a Telvanni Peninsula chapter, we'll get some dull, moralistic, bog-standard "free the slaves!" quest that will be about as fresh & exciting as the latest daedric invasion.

But hopefully it will be relegated to a side quest, and the main story & other side quests can focus more on interesting aspects of the House, like its politics, magical research, interactions with extra-planar realms & creatures, etc...

LordRukia · April 2022

Tenthirty2 wrote: »

Oregon.

Seriously tho, I'd love to see them do something with a totally diff realm. Perhaps getting us into the Celestial realms?
Or something closer to a primordial plane where everything else grew from? I'm not the biggest lore nerd so IDK if that's feasible.

We have Oblivion and all it's many flavours but so much of it doesn't feel unique like I'd expect.
Like here's an area with lava, and over there, MORE LAVA!
And a giant naga-snake-thing surfing across the lava.
Pointy rocks. Many many pointy rocks (I've gone thru WAY too many pairs of boots and sandals by now TYVM)

However none of it gave me that "Whoa, this is def NOT Nirn." feeling, so it ends up feeling more like Vvardenfell with less trees.

I'm imagining a realm where the normal laws of physics get thrown out the window and few things work the way the Nirn races understand.
Areas with reversed gravity, random elemental effects, pockets of null magic where spells and enchants will not work, corrosive fog that degrades your armour, etc.

There have been attempts made I feel.
Coldharbour isn't bad. You def have to watch your step in places. But TBH I was a bit bummed when nothing exciting or odd happened the first time I stepped into a plasm pool. It really looks like something that would melt your shoes or change your skin colour like you'd just spilled blue toilet cleaner on yourself.

Many sections of Craglorn are fun, Spellscar comes to mind, one of the more awesome areas!

While Fargrave didn't have any wonky physics it did feel different from Nirn cities, I liked that.
Not quite sure why I get that feeling there bcuz there aren't any new strange creatures or anything there. But it's design just LOOKS like an otherworldly city where demi-gods and goddesses would do their weekly shopping. Very cool.

And, maybe they are a small thing, but I love the Deadlands mini-wind spouts that randomly appear in some places. They're largely harmless and I've wasted quite a bit of time jumping into them Small things like that are just scratching the surface of what I'd love to see. You expect it to just be more harmless eye candy and suddenly "hoooly heck I'm in the air!"

I think the design\art teams can def pull it off. There are certainly things I stumble across while zone exploring that made me feel like I was in a fantasy game and not a poke-this-til-it-dies-take-its-stuff game.

Technical limitations may also be a thing too, with some of the ideas I have IDK if the engine is capable of executing it properly. The Celestial crates had some very cool Crown items with FX similar to what I have in mind.

I know High Isle is going to be taking us back to a more, well lets face it, a story not filled with Daedra and lava. I also think I've endured enough Daedra insults and sarcasm for 10 lifetimes. (ISTG if Lyranth shows up I am ignoring her.)
So I am really looking forward to High Isle. Political intrigue and plot-twist hopes are high

But looking to the future is what the thread is about and those are my thoughts.

(I agree with @ZOS_Kevin tho, like sheesh we haven't even gotten to the High Isle launch yet wth guys)

Just avoid Portland , I'm not sure even the daedra could survive that realm.

I like lyranth I think she is warming up to me 🥹

EozZoe1989 · April 2022

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uf anything id like to see some quests relating to the Dwemer and all the ancient people that went missing.. also more quests to earn mounts.. in quests also in digging. and other..
i think Dwemer are amazing .. ice elves and more.. mixed races in the game would be funny.. and mounts with two seats cool but they need to look real cool.. not elongated,... and weird.. dwarfs.. and more.. some people wanted passives liek the summerset ones.. that was really cool .. and some them to include dragonborn .. too .. the dragons are here so why not dragon moth cultists lol and others.. .. for the dragon slayers too lol --
we need bards,, we really do why well its in the game .. we have alot lore around it and this would suit it,. magic healing music.. or even protection.. with passive skills .. and mains maybe ..
assassins could have some mains too also the thief's guild and others.. so much can be added to the game for these special types of passive skills.. including the fact that main skill lines for the ones they dont have will add more skill trees and then with more addons to the game more sky shards that's what they there for lol..

TheNuminous1 · April 2022

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xXSilverDragonXx wrote: »

Hammerfell would make sense. Bosmers have three zones all about them. Frankly, another few years without them would be fine. THREE tedious zone in AD for that faction quest line. After that returning to dark elves might be nice. Then whiterun. That would be what I would like to see. All set with not seeing black marsh for a long time.

It's been 8 years, we already have hews bane, Let the bosmer have something new please.

NotaDaedraWorshipper · April 2022

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BroughBreaux wrote: »

I would like to go nowhere actually. Fix the game, the map, some graphical tweaks to bring the game up to modern standards. I would be completely fine getting no "new" content next year if it meant the game was better off.

Besides, fixing the map should be a huge priority because a wrong map makes wrong content. If there was a zone to fill the gap in Skyrim then that zone would be wrong based on the vacant space there. If there was another zone in Morrowind, that zone would be wrong because the shape of the province is wrong.

Having the map updated would be great. Because more content will just mess it up more.

I'm still shocked over their surprise on a stream that the map have inaccuracies.

Syldras · April 2022

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EozZoe1989 wrote: »

why not dragon moth cultists lol

I'm wondering if you mean moth-sized dragons or moths as big as dragons, but both seem fine to me. I'm not sure I would worship them, though.

MasterSpatula · April 2022

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I still feel like the Colovian Highlands/Colovian Estates/Skingrad are coming soon, even though I was dead wrong about them being last year.

DagenHawk · April 2022

Calling it now

Valenwood