sbialkow wrote: »

About when is U33?

Last year, the update 29 was released on the 8th March so this year, this should be around this date.

Miss me with this bug fix. Ball groups will love to hear this.

Maybe fix the bug where it pulls off walls instead thanks.

AgentZenish wrote: »

Miss me with this bug fix. Ball groups will love to hear this.

Maybe fix the bug where it pulls off walls instead thanks.

Second fixing it from pulling off walls. The only ability that is able to do so. Seems more like an exploit than an intended effect.

In BGS I relentlessly go after anyone using DC. DC spammers beware.

A couple things I’ve noticed. First it doesn’t pull me off the wall but rather to a ledge. My knee jerk reaction is to run or dodge roll but if it’s the wrong direction, I’ll fall off. I’ve learned it’s better to just wait before reacting. The little damage (mine does about 11k damage within 3 m) takes 4 seconds to proc so there’s plenty of time to get out of the way even after the stun.

Second, I have no problem dodge rolling out. There is a 1 second delay between the set and the pull so it may be better to wait before dodging. I’m slow to react and I’ve had no trouble breaking free. I wear light armor. I suspect those who complain wear heavy armor and/or can’t get out in after 4 seconds have gone by.

I like to use use Dark Convergence on my magblade. It is not the damage as much as it is a way to get away from tanky build groups. I go stealth (Shadowy Disguise), hit Twisting Path which gives a 30% speed bonus and procs DC, and exit via dodge roll or just walk out in stealth. I also have the addition 25% speed bonus from Concealed Weapon when stealthed out. No one knows where I go. And ya, stealth nightblades are targeted in Cyrodiil and Battlegrounds.

I also like Dark Convergence in solo PVE dungeons where stealth doesn’t matter. It helps focus trash mobs into AoE damage like Unstable Wall but Twisting works as well.

So has the exploitation (pulling off walls of keeps) of this set been aknowledged by ZOS yet, or should a new post be created? I have reported it in game about a dozen times but have little faith it actually gets reviewed.

I tested Dark Convergence this morning on some test dummies I have set up in a house. I use a restoration staff with Illustrious Healing so as to not get confusing results. There is an increase per enemy but it is 30% not the 50% in the set description.

Is the set still broken or is there a set description error?

@Pymad

May this is because it is a relative value. The 50% add to other bonus and result as a 30% buff ?

I'll try to do some test to see exactly.

@Pymad I’m testing using a magblade with Rattlecage (5), Dark Convergence (5), and Slimecraw (2). I don’t think any other damage should proc off of a heal.

When I equip the Juliano’s restoration staff, the Rattlecage count drops to 4 pieces so no Major Brutality/Sorcery. (I don’t have a Rattlecage resto staff collected). with the resto, I have spell damage of 5364 and penetrations of 13132. I’m using Rubust Humanoid Target Skeletons in the test.

btw, thank you for the response and for checking this out. I love Dark Convergence. Best set in the game in my opinion for magblade and magcro toons.

Hello @sbialkow ,
I tested the DC and obtained some ... weird things. But I think that I understand the values.

So, that was on a Stamden (I tested with and without: CP, Skills, Armor bonuses, Passives etc). With bonuses, I have:
- 4% Damage done (From warden's pet passive)
- 5% Damage (minor berserk),
- 10% Damage (CP AoE) and
- 10% Damage (CP Direct).

For a global damage modifier of 29%.

The first damage of the DC (the little one) into the tooltip indicate 6951.
When I proc it on a dummy/mob (depending on the number of target) the damage become:

- 9488 (1 target) [6951 + 2537]
- 12025 (2 targets) [9488 + 2537]
- 14563 (3 targets) [12025 + 2538]

Then, I conclude that the tooltip is for 0 target and that the increase (+2537) seems to be correct (as it must be linear) but not equal to 50%. After some tests on multiple targets (including Players) and bonuses (CP, Passives ...) I find a 8% bonus which come from nowhere. I determined that :

[Tooltip] = [Value] * [Bonuses] (which include the 8%)
[Damage] = [Tooltip] + [Target_Number] * (Value]/2)

Here, on a simple target, [Damage] is 9488 which is 6951 + 1 * [Value]/2, where [Value] is equal to 5074.
And the [Tooltip] is 6951 which is 5074 * 1.37.

I tested some other proc sets in same conditions, it tends to show that crit one don't have this 8% weird bonus and others have. Not sure for this part, this is only a feeling. But conclusions about the behavior for DC:

- The damage of the tooltip is lower than the real damage as it isn't calculated for 1 target but 0
- The bonus of 50% per target is not multiplied by our bonus damage modifier (the 37%) this result in a decrease on power.
Also, this bonus is additionnal with others bonuses (normal behavior) so from direct calculs, this will never be a 50%. If this was working well, it would be 79% (1 Target -> 29% + 50%), 129% (2 targets) etc. And then, a direct calculus would be 1.79/1.29 which give 38.75% more damage if there was one target more.
- There is a 8% weird bonus which come from nowhere and that isn't applied to the bonus damage of the DC (such as others bonusees)

Hope it helps.